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Teenage girl charged with sexual assault, false imprisonment for holding down and raping boy that "kept resisting and telling her no"

xynomaster

January 15, 2016
594 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.wxow.com/story/30971331/2016/01/14/mondovi-woman-17-faces-sexual-assault-charges-of-teen-boy
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Title Teenage girl charged with sexual assault, false imprisonment for holding down and raping boy that "kept resisting and telling her no"
Author

xynomaster

Upvotes 594
Comments 41
Date January 15, 2016 4:57 AM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/411lu2/teenage_girl_charged_with_sexual_assault_false/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/teenage-girl-charged-with-sexual-assault-false.963129
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Comments

[–]xynomaster[S] 64 points65 points66 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I think this is a good case to talk about because it shows that men can be sexually abused by women, even in senses other than just statutory rape. The age difference here (she was 17, he was 14) isn't really too significant, but she is still accused of holding him down and forcibly raping him.

[–]actingverystrangely 33 points34 points35 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The article does not use the word "rape": is this because of the legal definition? Will she be charged with rape?

[–]xynomaster[S] 50 points51 points52 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I actually looked this up. This happened in Wisconsin, where there is no legal statute called "rape". "Sexual assault of a child", which is what she has been charged with, has multiple levels. There is one level for having sex with someone under 16 using force or threat of force (ie rape), and a different level for otherwise consensual sex with someone under 16. The article doesn't specify which she was charged with, but given that she is also being charged with false imprisonment, I think it's reasonable to believe that this was not consensual.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A lot of states have changed their statutes to refer to sexual assault in the nth degree rather than rape.

[–]not-Kid_Putin 23 points24 points25 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

its also worth mentioning that as men are being told they're rapists more and more, many men fear to use violence against women at all. Even in self defense because they know they can hurt them much more (in general). Not saying that's the case here but I could see that as a possibility in certain instances of forcible rape by women to men

[–]mwobuddy 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually, it proves "minor" girls can be sexual, and even be sexual predators.

That says a lot about female sexual agency, rather than seeing them as innocent victims of sexuality of males.

[–]Luchadorgreen 33 points34 points35 points 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Welp, that's some textbook rape right there.

I thought news outlets in the U.S. don't normally show the faces of underage offenders. Did I miss something?

[–]rab912009 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

In most states, including Wisconsin,17 year olds are tried as adults. I believe that is why her picture is shown even though she is still a minor. Having 17 year olds tried as adults when we tend to view adults in the USA as 18 and up is a bit of a argument. Some states have strong movements to go from 17 to 18.

[–]mwobuddy 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

14 year olds should be tried as adults.

[–]rab912009 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

With the current system 14 year olds can be tried as adults but it is case by case. The problem with a low arbitrary age cut off is it removes all discretion.

Just curious, not trying you attack you but would you like all the 14 year olds to go to an adult correctional facility if there sentencing involved doing time in a correctional facility?

[–]mwobuddy 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That doesn't happen. They go to a prison facility for people under 18 until they reach "of age" to go to big boy prison.

[–]rab912009 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

While it is uncommon it does happen.

"Because some juveniles are transferred to adult court and/or subjected to blended sentencing, a number of youths under 18 are being imprisoned in adult facilities; there were more that 2,300 as of 2006."

source: Juvenile Justice an Introduction, John T. Whithead and Steven P. Lab. page 290

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[–]blueyb 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It wasn't a human boy dummy, it was an actual human boy.

[–]mwobuddy 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You forgot to add dummy to the end of that sentence.

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[–]DemiDualism 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well she'd probably want to get off first, but i won't judge

[–]Archibald_Andino 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This completely. If she were hot, everything else equal, she would be punished with 30 days probation, suspended, of course.

[–]Midas_Stream 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Jesus Christ -- phrasing!

[–]Leinadro 26 points27 points28 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Now lets sit and watch as she plays the victim, walks away scott free, gets support from anti male elements, and maybe even have her victim charged with attacking her.

[–]HeyZuesHChrist 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you think we need to teach women to not rape?

[–]MilleniumHandAndShri 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Incoming slap on her wrist. She won't get near as bad a sentence as a boy of the same age would.

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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Full weight of her body"

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[–]user1492 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can confirm, I eat cheesecake and look like I'm in my 30's.

[–]garglemesh42 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Ctrl-f, rape. Nope, not once. No mention of the word, or that it was statutory rape. Wtf?

[–]Endless_Summer 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Because there is no actual charge of "rape" in Wisconsin, put down your pitchfork.

[–]garglemesh42 -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If it had been a 17 year old boy doing this to a 14 year old girl, you can bet your ass they would have called it rape.

[–]Endless_Summer 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is no charge of "rape" in the state, so no, they would not.

[–]sigh_riss 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not statutory if they're both underage

[–]McFeely_Smackup 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He told investigators he kept resisting and telling her 'no,' saying he thought he was too young and that he wanted to wait until he was married.

It's ok son, we know what you really mean...we all saw her photo.

[–]Everything_Is_Rape 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They called it "sexual assault", but this is clearly just rape.

And since the child had the penis, he's clearly the rapist.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A lot of states, such as Wisconsin, have changed their statutes to refer to sexual assault in the nth degree rather than rape.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't you guys know? It's only rape if you have a penis.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Meg Griffin?

[–]Rethgil 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To women and feminists 'no means no'. Sad we have to educate them on such matters.

[–]25russianbear25 -5 points-4 points-3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

the little boy got imprisoned? wtf??

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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah. I thought false imprisonment meant that the girl was imprisoned by the state based on false grounds. I are no longer confuse.

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