"I'm Raising My Son As A Feminist"

_chukee · 2015-12-03T00:40:38+00:00

"I'm raising my son to hate himself and become a doormat for the opposite sex."

Sickening.

I hope these idiots realize that boys are already perfectly capable of expressing their feelings. The reason we have traditionally taught boys to develop stoic traits is that -- once puberty hits -- the empathy suddenly disappears, and they have to stand on their own two feet. Men do not have the luxury of behaving like women. Not only are these feminists not helping their boys develop, they are essentially handicapping them. One might even call it child abuse.

Boys need fathers. Not feminism.

lux_roth_chop · 2015-12-03T09:55:15+00:00

I was raised by a feminist.

My mother was - and I presume, still is - a feminist. She never went to any marches, never burned a bra, although that was the visible face of feminism in the seventies when I was born. She was quiet, a school teacher like my dad. She wasn't visibly angry or confrontational in any way. But still, she was a feminist. And she approached parenting from that perspective.

You might wonder how this works, this quiet feminist approach. Well the most obvious factor and the one I think most of us will recognise in feminism to this day is constant, overarching policing of behaviour. Everything I did and said was watched and scrutinised. Wherever I went and whatever I did, I was quietly and constantly assessed.

This might not sound extreme or even harmful - we all watch our kids, right? We just want to keep them safe, as so many who practice this monitoring would say, including my mother. But in reality it is constant, crippling and utterly debilitating. It robs you of your right to express yourself because you know that if you say or do the wrong thing, punishment will be swift and severe. So you quickly learn to self-censor. You watch yourself constantly and hide all those wrong thoughts which you know could lead to wrong actions and thus punishment. You learn to hate who you are, hate yourself for having those wrong thoughts. You become a living prison - inside, you have all the thoughts and ideas and desires which are normal, but they can never ever be let out.

It becomes a perverse game in which you struggle to play to rules which are kept secret from you. Again, I think many of us will readily see this in modern feminism; no matter how successfully you think you're conforming to expectations you can get in a lift, tell a joke quietly to a friend, play a videogame, wear a shirt and suddenly your life is destroyed. You don't know those things break the rules because the rules are a secret.

In the end you lose not just the desire to express yourself but the ability too. When I was depressed and suicidal, I couldn't tell anyone because I didn't know how. When I was homeless for brief periods, I didn't seek help least of all from my parents because I had absolutely no idea how to express such a wrong thought: "I am weak and afraid and I cannot cope". When people did see my troubles and help me I was ashamed of inconveniencing them.

The policing is practical too. Room searches were common; I didn't know until I was an adult that it wasn't normal for mothers to search their teenage sons' rooms looking for infractions of their rules. But search she did, always when I was out of the house. Her chief target was porn. Like most boys in the eighties, I kept a secret stash of tattered, much-swapped porn magazines. I absolutely loved porn and still do; to me it has always represented one of the few areas of life where men and women happily flout convention to do as they really want. But my mother was a feminist. You can imagine how she saw porn. So the magazines would be found. I would be confronted. The wait for my father to return home was excruciating. I would be sent to my room and my father would follow, sometimes with my mother following.

The punishment would take the form of a "discussion". First, we would "discuss" what was in the magazines. They would be held up and I would have to identify the body parts on display - this was, I was told, to ensure that I properly understood what I was looking at. Then we would "discuss" how these images were made. I was given to understand that no woman would ever willingly participate in such activities and that in fact they were all forced to do so by men. They were forced against their will, all of them, into these degrading and humiliating sexual acts. And what do we call a woman being forced into sexual acts by a man? That's right, rape. And by observing and participating in these acts I participated in rape. Aged twelve, I was a sadistic, gleeful rapist. At this point in the "discussion", the facts would become punctuated by slaps, pushes and sometimes punches. We would "discuss" whether I was aroused by these images (I was of course) and "discuss" how disappointed my parents were that I could be aroused by images of exploitation and rape. On the darker days, usually when my mother was present, I would be required to show how aroused I was and "discuss" what I did when this terrible arousal came over me. But I don't want to talk about that now.

I learned, as victims do, to recite the formula which would make it stop: mumble the words, hang your head, shed a tear, show all the remorse and shame which will lead to the hug and the forgiveness. Until next time.

But inside I couldn't reconcile what was in front of me with what I was told. The women in the magazines didn't look afraid or exploited at all. In fact many of them smiled and winked at the camera. I had heard although I didn't know for sure, that they were paid to do it. I couldn't see any reasonable mechanism by which they were being forced to participate; it looked to me like they were just taking their clothes off and masturbating in front of a photographer (to add to my confusion some of those photographers names looked very like they were the names of women) and I couldn't see how anyone could force someone to do that or why they would need to; in my confused reasoning it seemed unlikely that anyone would have to be forced to do something so pleasurable and natural.

But this was just another secret rule in the perverse game. So I did what I had learned to do; I hid the conflicting thoughts away inside and made sure no one could see or hear them. I became a good little boy who didn't say or do the wrong thing, who always met expectations, a walking, smiling shell where a child should have been.

soalone34 · 2015-12-03T04:13:24+00:00

So that's where white knights come from.

Wargame4life · 2015-12-03T09:10:07+00:00

This is absolutely disturbing

aka "I'm brainwashing my son"

My parents raised me to make my own decisions and determine my own policies and belief in accordance to what I believe is true and who i am as a person.

They did not instil on me a static mould to conform to based on some bullshit agenda.

These mothers are an embarassment to good parents everywhere, shame on them, and I feel so sorry for their sons.

Sadly there is no way to isolate yourself from batshit insane deluded bitter mothers. (or fathers)

unpicked-username · 2015-12-03T08:20:08+00:00

Wow I'm mentally abusing my son in support of feminism.

Donate here! Like comment subscribe! Feel sorry for other families!

Wargame4life · 2015-12-03T12:18:22+00:00

"I'm going to send the message that gender roles should be thrown at"

Notice they were all women? "men are half the force" didn't see any men myself, just a bunch of women.

whole think implies only women are the force that drives and nurtures the young by virtue of there being no men in it.

fucking morons.

I hate the "all x panel" argument but thats because i dont push a Bullshit agenda where that has value, i.e i make my issues and policies about the facts and truth, but these stupid bints are pushing bullshit hysteria and their bullshit hysteria doesn't match their bullshit arguments.

or in short, SJW style Arguments only contradict SJW claims, because rationalists don't value either (the claims or the methodology)

Title	"I'm Raising My Son As A Feminist"
Author	jamminnummeruno
Upvotes	28
Comments	14
Date	December 3, 2015 12:10 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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