Is there anything worse than a man who cries?

FFXIV_Machinist · 2015-11-08T15:47:58+00:00

idk. when i see a man crying. i know those tears arent cheap or fake. Someone, or something just died, he got kicked in the groin, or someone broke his heart.

Men have been engrained that it is never ok to cry, and when we do it means something.

MrDoradus · 2015-11-08T12:45:28+00:00

Not sure why it's even needed to be said, but this is "satire" (well at least her warped up attempt at it). She's mocking the perceived societal standard that man shouldn't cry, let's just get that one out of the way. She's not actually mocking men who cry.

But then on the other hand, it's only feminists who seem that the society has some warped standards on men who cry, probably just projecting their own experiences of being told not to show her emotion so publicly because people don't want to watch other people cry all the time. So my only guess is that this woman is indeed a feminist (quick search and overview of her other articles show's that is indeed the case). Why the fuck is she writing articles for men's health? There plenty of other people who would do these topics greater justice.

AloysiusC · 2015-11-08T17:05:15+00:00

Ok, so this is satire and some are going to say people are stupid for taking it literally. But is it? In an age of "I bathe in male tears" and "patriarchy fuck face", can you expect people to be able to tell the difference anymore?

Timonidas · 2015-11-08T12:21:55+00:00

Yes, the fringe.

Lethn · 2015-11-08T12:35:23+00:00

Almost every feminist article I've read about men: "Masculinity is a problem, we need to let men be sensitive and express their emotions more easily, they should be encouraged to wear dresses and do more feminine things"

Eva Wiseman: "Is there anything worse than a man who cries?"

Pick one you fucking bitch.

Funcuz · 2015-11-08T14:36:16+00:00

I stopped worrying about what any woman had to say about male emotional health long ago. They don't know what makes men tick so why would they, of all people, have any clue what makes for healthy masculinity ?

With that being said, I have to be completely honest here : If your dog dies, cry a little. If your wife leaves you...go ahead and shed a few tears. Can't deal with snarky remarks from co-workers or handle all the pressure your boss puts you under ? Get a new job. I just can't respect a man who cries. I can't really respect many woman who cry too often either and it's my opinion that what we need is a serious dose of stoicism in our society.

I'm sick to death of being told that it's okay to cry. According to who ? I don't need to cry. I don't want to cry. I have no fucking interest whatsoever in holding somebody's fucking hand and leaving a trail of tears across the house. I don't need to talk about my emotions (what fucking good has that ever done anybody in the history of humanity ?) or get a hug because I'm feeling stressed. That's female shit and that's fine for them but I don't understand it because it seems incredibly pointless to me. I like to solve problems not sit around jabbering on endlessly about them.

Look, I know perfectly well that a lot of you are going to file this under the "traditionalist" or big-C conservative columns but I promise you that I'm neither of them. I'm simply a practical person and I just don't want to hear anybody's sob stories about how life is giving them so many problems. I've got my own problems and since nobody's going out of their way to solve them for me I don't see what good it's going to do for me to take on everybody else' emotional baggage. What for ? There's sweet fuck all I can do about them anyway and apart from that, women don't tend to want their problems solved in the first place : They want you to sit there and pretend you give a shit about Shelley's better fashion sense. No.

I will not cry because I just don't need to. When my father is lying on his death bed or some shit like that, then I'll have a reason to cry. Until then, fuck off with anybody's "You need to be in touch with your feelings" bullshit. No, I don't.

blueoak9 · 2015-11-08T17:39:09+00:00

This isn't really about her own depravity and misandry, this is at least as much about the depravity and misandry of whatever public she thinks she is appealing to. I have no idea if these are her real feelings but I doubt it. They look much more calculated than that.

Lrellok · 2015-11-08T18:30:00+00:00

Thank you SO MUCH< this is exactly what i needed. I love you guys. I have been arguing with some feminists for weeks that women hate men who express their emotions and it is women, not patriarchy, that is responsible for this.

And now i cannot find the post showing that violence is directly caused by social shaming.

ThePigmanAgain · 2015-11-08T19:45:26+00:00

Yeech, just looking at that photo of her makes me want to cry. And then vomit.

wazzup987 · 2015-11-08T19:46:39+00:00

i think this is satire... i hope

thatbuzzguy · 2015-11-08T20:57:39+00:00

Her article is poorly written. She is trying to be funny, trying to be satirical, and doing a poor job at both. If you want to respond, tell her that her article is poorly written. There is no greater insult to someone who fancies themselves a sophisticated and talented writer. Nothing else needs to be said, or done. This should be boilerplate response for any such articles.

2015-11-08T21:08:17+00:00

I get that it's satire but women who get to cry at the least inconvenience should really just avoid talking about male tears altogether. Kinda a bad look. Like they're making themselves out to be experts on men's emotions just because they're women. I suppose I could see a man writing a similar article on women who don't wear makeup, say, but that would be similarly obnoxious and officious.

There are a lot of reasons men don't cry just as there are a lot of reasons women don't usually go out with "naked" faces. There's attractiveness of sexual dimorphism: men can't cry as easily and women's skin is supposed to appear softer, their features more youthful, etc. There's what men might say, sure, but perhaps more important is how women will probably treat you. (Women are notorious for being the "appearance police", especiallt to each other.) There's personal pride which, despite the poststructuralist narrative, is not 100% dictated by culture.

And the fact is men can be seen as admirable when they cry in the right situations. Just not on demand. And even in situations where it's appropriate, crying men will not receive the same sort of attention as crying women. Another reason crying is more readily associated with women: they actually have an incentive to do it, not merely a lack of disincentive against it.

2015-11-08T23:38:47+00:00

The femileft really wanta men to be allowed to be victims.

So long as they are not victims of women.

Are male victims of female domestic violence allowed to cry?

2015-11-09T18:54:24+00:00

Women cry because when they cry they get help. Men are conditioned not to cry because it doesn't get them help, so it's a waste of time and energy. Moreover it signals weakness to potential mates.

Title	Is there anything worse than a man who cries?
Author	Jasperkr672
Upvotes	51
Comments	26
Date	November 8, 2015 12:15 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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