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Feminist blogger launches online campaign against bar - claims female patrons will be roofied, raped and beaten. Never actually set foot inside.

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November 3, 2015
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/r/MensRights
http://itsakilahobviously.com/post/132342088817/women-do-not-go-to-crown-victoria-bar-in
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Title Feminist blogger launches online campaign against bar - claims female patrons will be roofied, raped and beaten. Never actually set foot inside.
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Upvotes 80
Comments 28
Date November 3, 2015 1:18 AM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3rahec/feminist_blogger_launches_online_campaign_against/
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[–]bertreapot 35 points36 points37 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

establishment wouldn't give her ice = you will be roofied, raped, and beaten. Pretty standard feminist logic.

[–]matthew_lane 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Other simple feminist to English phrases

-Harassment! = Stop disagreeing with me!

-Misogynist! = Stop disagreeing with me!

-Cis Scum! = Stop disagreeing with me!

-Sexist! = Stop disagreeing with me!

-RAPE! = Stop disagreeing with me!

-Check your privilege! = Stop disagreeing with me!

[–]Alkomb[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So accurate. (No sarcasm.)

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't you know anything about INTERSECTIONALITY you insensitive clod?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And being told to be careful with how you use your mace.

Asthmatics aren't really people anyways.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“it’s shocking I don’t get punched in the face more often by men since I’m ‘so annoying.’”

To be fair, I can be hella annoying (lol)

You don't fuckin say.

[–]SixInTheStix 12 points13 points14 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

This is a great way to get sued for libel.

[–]Alkomb[🍰] 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I was thinking "slander", but "libel"'s probably correct.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

In this case Liable...as it is in print...

[–]Alkomb[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Wait, I'm confused, sorry.:x

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Liable is if the comment or statement is untrue and made in print or via the mass media. Slander is if it was said person to person and can be more difficult to prove as it often involves only two parties, where is in liable the evidence is widely available...such as a newspaper article or a television report.

[–]Alkomb[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, right, sorry. & ah, thanks!

[+]Afrobean -8 points-7 points-6 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Against whom was a libelous statement made? The claim of mockery from the bar staff? The claim that a faceless person may in the future drug and rape someone at that bar?

If I said to you "Someone will come into your place of work and rape someone", who would I be talking about and how would that person be able to sue me for slandering them? Would your place of employment have any case to say that there would absolutely never ever be a rapist inside their establishment at any point in my non-specific hypothetical future?

I don't think there's any case here, and if the bar staff tried to make a case against them for her claim that she had been mocked, they'd have an uphill battle that would probably only end up wasting a ton of money on both sides. I can't see anyone pursuing anything here.

[–]King_Turnip 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The libelous statement--that the patrons of this establishment will be drugged, raped and beaten with the tacit approval of the staff--is a libel against the business itself, and possibly by extension the owner (depending on the way the business is organized.)

[–]SixInTheStix 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Libel- a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation.

If you make any statements that damages someone's (or a business's) reputation that you can't specifically prove are true, then you are libelous.

[–]HoundDogs 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here's to hoping she gets sued into the poor house for that one.

[–]Alkomb[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Please tell me if this idiot got sued for "libel", or "slander".

[–]blueoak9 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Standard issue man-hating cunt. Quite the entitlement princess.

[–]andejoh 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why would you be betean if you were just roofied? Isn't the whole point of being roofied is to not have to over power someone? I know it's my problem for trying to make sense of the senseless.

[–]MyAfricanChild 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I greatly doubt that people would act in that way based on what she said. I have the sneaky feeling that some variables were left out of her account. I would'nt put it past her to purposely construct the story in a favorable light. We need more witnesses to get at the truth I guess. This reminds me of that Muslim woman who claimed people were being vicious/discriminatory towards her over an unopened coke can (Which later had counter testimony that her story was a lie).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

SLANDER.

get a lawyer.

File a police complaint. File a Lawsuit for damages.

Sometimes the only way people listen is when their bank accounts get smaller. So hit the bitch where it hurts. In her pocketbook.

FILE A FUCKING LAWSUIT FOR DAMAGES.

[–]Afrobean 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

The link here says "never actually set foot inside" to suggest she never went there at all, but based on what she said, she was definitely attacked at the location. To add insult to injury, she then tells of how the staff of the location mocked her and insulted her to her face, apparently because she had been attacked outside their establishment. I thought the people around here were sympathetic to victims of unwarranted violence. Was I wrong? Should victims of assault be mocked?

The expansion from "I got brutally assaulted for no good reason and then was mocked for it" to "you will get roofied" is a big jump though, definitely. If you want to ridicule the person, that's what you should ridicule them for. I can understand that they're thinking "people who go to this bar are just the worst kind of people and the staff clearly doesn't care when a woman is assaulted by their customers", but that's slippery slope fallacy and it's not fair to guess that because some customers are violent assailants that others would be rapists.

But you don't ridicule her for being upset about getting attacked outside the bar or for telling people about the event. That's perfectly reasonable and everyone should do that if they are ever treated that way.

And incidentally, I don't see what this has to do with men's issues. Is it supposed to be a men's right that they should be allowed to assault women outside of bars? Is it supposed to be a men's right that they should be allowed to mock victims of assault when they ask for help?

[–]bertreapot 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree. It's wrong that she was physically attacked (sounds like outside the bar?) and of course it is wrong the the bar staff made mocked her and wouldn't give her ice.

I think it's a men's rights issue because the woman is making the leap from "you won't give me ice" to "if you go to this bar you will be raped." Equating every minor slight with an instance of rape is a classic feminist tactic, as is smearing others by accusing them of implicitly condoning rape.

[–]v573v 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

She has turned rape into a tool that she's using to get something that she wants.

You don't see how that ability women have might be problem for men in our society?

Edit: She never set foot in the bar.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for throwing that out there. In her initial post it reads like she may have been in the bar or at least hanging out outside of it.

She makes it pretty clear here that

  1. She never set foot in the bar

  2. Neither had her assailant, to our knowledge, prior to the attack.

So she's attacking this establishment because they wouldn't give her ice. Yeah, Dick move and all, but that doesn't mean you pull out the rape card.

[–]v573v 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They were security staff away from the bar's property and close enough to her attacker to be concerned about her use of mace.

It reads to me like: They were helping her with the attacker and she brought out the mace (as an after thought - she already said that she didn't defend herself during the attack) and put them all at a health risk after which they wanted nothing more to do with her. That's my best guess.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm gonna withold judgement on that, but it appears very plausible.

[–]Rajron 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Club security tends to have a strong policy of "if its not on our property, its not our problem". Also, we quickly learn to spot assholes and do our best to get them off our hands - especially the "I'll sue you" sort.

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