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Barbershop Owner Attacked by Feminist For Not Cutting Hair Speaks Out

thedaringslave1

September 13, 2015
58 upvotes
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Title Barbershop Owner Attacked by Feminist For Not Cutting Hair Speaks Out
Author

thedaringslave1

Upvotes 58
Comments 51
Date September 13, 2015 4:24 AM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3kqxl4/barbershop_owner_attacked_by_feminist_for_not/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/barbershop-owner-attacked-by-feminist-for-not.971482
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Comments

[–]krawm 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Is there a news article on this i refuse to watch alex jones.

[–]Turn_Coat 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't really handle Alex either...

[–]thedaringslave1[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yes he can be wild, but he actually did this very well. you'll have to look up the mainstream media if you want to know more.

[–]Brodusgus 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Remember when feminism used to be about empowering women and not suing men for money?

[–]thedaringslave1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Barely....I think back then just their bra's were their victims.lol

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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Like are there salons that will turn men away because they only cut women's hair? I'm far from an expert but I don't think I've ever seen a place like that around here.

Er... yes. Everywhere in the more affluent parts of town. They are not going to cut your hair if you're a man because the ladies who frequent the salon would stop coming.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sounds like you need to get out into the real world a little more. Upper-middle-class and upper-class women do not tolerate men in their conclaves unless they are flamboyantly gay.

you're a lot more likely to find a women's hair stylist that is OK doing men's hair than vice versa

Haha. No.

[–]synn89 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A more practical reason why women's salons cut men's hair is because women bring their children there. Boys haircuts usually aren't that different than a man's, so the stylists there are all used to it.

[–]Capitalsman 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think salons keep men away just because of the price. In a recent rooster teeth podcast one of them got his hair cut at a salon and he was complaining it was $55. The places for guys are usually $11-20 and they specialize on short haircuts and not so much what all a salon does.

[–]thedaringslave1[S] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

If you recall he even offered to pay for her hair cut at a women's salon and she declined. the points brought up are excellent though. It simply is intolerable for a man to join a women's fraternity that is only for women, or an all female gym. she was just looking to stir trouble. It is about control, controlling how we act even when amongst our own. Our conduct is always debated. I know of a woman that tells me if "you only knew the things women at times discuss alone without a male in the group you'd shit"

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[–]thedaringslave1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well said

[–]Minkatte 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women can't join fraternities, just like men can't join sororities.

[–]Titan235 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women can join frats in many schools now. He'll not too long ago I think it was Weslyen started forcing another frats to go co ed. I would have to Google the article but yeah there are many schools who already have it that frats must be co ed but sorority do not have to be.

[–]Mhrby 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

I actually think him getting the fine that he did was absolutely what should happen.

he was refusing someone services based on their gender. If he had refused her due to her requesting a type of haircut that they did not provide, that is one thing, but solely based on her being a woman and wanting it to be a "guy-space" is not acceptable.

Just last week, most here seemed to agree with me, that the CEO of Chic Women, who turned down 3 men from entering her "Women-in-Tech" event and was subsequently sued, deserved to be sued based on her discriminatory business practices.

Now people don't seem to think this guy deserved getting a fine for running a business practice that refuses to provide service to one gender.

Come on, MensRights, I been impressed with your consistency and critical thinking in the past, but supporting this idiot barbershop owner is very disappointing

[–]thedaringslave1[S] 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Your argument makes about as much sense to blame "Come on, MensRights, I been impressed with your consistency and critical thinking in the past, but supporting this idiot barbershop owner is very disappointing" men's rights for playboy books when feminist complain about them....have you ever heard once about a female being forced to pose for playboy? could men pose for playboy? no so give it up.

[–]Mhrby 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thats also a modeling job; Generally modeling jobs are exempt from those laws due to their nature.

[–]thedaringslave1[S] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

what modeling job? curves? all women gyms, bathrooms,dorms, fraternities...get a grip

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[–]srtor 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. Isn't women-only gym 'gender based'. Where is the outcry. Fuck feminazi.

[–]Mhrby -5 points-4 points-3 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

gyms are membership clubs and as such private clubs for members only

[–]marauderp 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How does that make it better? Seriously?

So you're free to discriminate as long as you charge people membership? Would it be ok to have a white-only gym as long as people pay for membership?

Your argument is just special pleading. It's idiotic.

[–]Mhrby -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope.

Sorry, but I think you are entirely misunderstanding.

I am saying the laws differentiate, not saying I think membership clubs makes it okay.

Also, I am saying that people should be consistent; If someone believes its ok to sue for discrimination when the men was turned away at Chic CEO's event, then they should also think this barber deserved to be sued/fined for his discrimination.

Also, if you oppose the membership woman-only gyms, why are you, seemingly, supporting this barbers right to discriminate against women?

[–]Minkatte -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why is this so hard to understand?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

but solely based on her being a woman and wanting it to be a "guy-space" is not acceptable.

Absolute horseshit. Illegal maybe, but unacceptable? No. Chic CEO for that matter should be granted the same freedom of association and exclusion. You aren't thinking critically, just buying into the same "Men and women should be the same and be together all the time for no reason" dogma of the femopticon.

[–]Capitalsman 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think he was saying you're a woman and this is a barbor shop which would mean unless you want a crew cut I don't know how to do it. Like he said in the video, she took a dodge into a toyota garage and unless you need a flat fixed they can't do anything for you.

[–]Mhrby 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thats not at all what those from the barbershop claimed initially.

Paraphrasing, they claimed their barbershop was a "safe-space" for guys to hang out and be men without having women around and that was part of their setup, so without even hearing what kind of haircut she wanted, they immediately refused her service, but defended that by having offered to pay for her to get service at another saloon.

If she had come in and upon asking for a type of haircut they did not do, had been told they could not do that kind of haircut and then had offered to pay for her to get the type of haircut she wanted done at another place, then I would absolutely be on their side, but from their own initial description of events, they was clearly the ones in the wrong.

[–]Capitalsman 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Guess you have a point, I just have this lingering thought in the back of my mind of "It's a barber shop, they specialize with buzz cuts and straight shaves so why would they know what to do with your hair?"". I do and don't agree with denying service because you are your own private business and not a part of the government but it sounds wrong because of all of the whites only signs from 60 years ago. But if women want "safe spaces" for everything but straight males then they don't have a right to complain if men actually have one and it has been a male only hang out for as long as they have existed.

[–]thedaringslave1[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

You rush into defend the indefensible, clearly you are a mangina or a female looking for a female perspective. If a man was to go and try and work out ant "curves" an all female gym he would be told NO,. If you were a man and tried to move into the female dorms of an all female sorority, you would be told no. If you were about to shit your pants because the men's bathroom was out of order and you did anyways, you would be arrested, charged even though in women's washrooms it is all stalls and impossible to invade someones privacy. So don't give me that shit. The problem is feminism, and men aren't allowed anything of their own anymore.

[–]synn89 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If a man wanted to go into a public hair salon and get a woman's hair cut, I'd see a problem with them turning him away just because he's a man.

[–]thedaringslave1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

what about if he wanted to join "curves" an all female gym or an all female sorority?

[–]Mhrby -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Member clubs are not the same as an open business; She had made a reservation, just like the men had.

I mean, if you think it was okay for the Chic CEO to turn away the guys from her event, then alright, we can disagree and you are consistent in your views.

[–]thedaringslave1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What reservation?

[–]Mhrby 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The original news item about this said the woman who was refused service had reserved a time at the barber shop for her and her boyfriend there

[–]redgreenyellowblu 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, that's just trying to sneak in. If she had called up and asked for a reservation just for her, she would have been told 'no'.

[–]Consilio_et_Animis -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Totally agree.

If he really wants to make it male only; then he could turn it into a "private club", where the public cannot just walk in. And men would have to "join" by paying some sort of fee. This is legal is many countries around the world.

Otherwise, he has to let women in.

And it's no big deal. Once in a blue moon a woman would genuinely want a hair cut there. I note has has female hair dressers!

[–]baskandpurr[🍰] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think the majority opinion in the sub is that he should have cut her hair. I was going to point out that the way that the title refers to the woman as a feminist is unfair. I'm not defendning feminism with that, I'm as anti-feminist as anyone. It's not right to declare anyone who supports women's right a feminist. They are very different things.

[–]Lethn 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

wow, you know shit's going down when even Alex Jones is getting tired of these morons.

[–]thedaringslave1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah ,I was very surprised to see the title and watch what I did.

[–]anticapitalist 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Is there a video about this that's not from Alex Jones?

I'd be far more interested.

[–]dicaparly 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its actually a well done interview for a change. He tries to stretch it at some points, claiming this case is similar to some of the anti-gay discrimination cases, but other than easily-identifiable and filterable bias, its a good piece.

[–]thedaringslave1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

not sure. this one he actually did well.

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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's okay to be against Kim Davis' actions while also thinking it was wrong she was jailed for it... Right?

I mean, she absolutely should've been fired. But jailing her created a martyr. It was way over the top. Firing her and fining her would've been sufficient. Instead she was given a soapbox, and a Huckabee.

[–]LordAnon5703 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The first problem is that she is an elected official, she can't be fired, only impeached. The second problem was fining her wouldn't work because her sponsors already said they would pay any and all fines, so in reality it wouldn't be a punishment. Jailing her was actually quite a good move. She had three choices. Resign, give marriage licenses, or stay in jail. Even if she became a martyr, justice would be served.

[–]thedaringslave1[S] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yes he professes to be. In any conversation there is a certain element to be gained from it, look at it that way.

[–]Capitalsman 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He's right about businesses having the right to refuse service and all, but I had to stop it when he brought up the Kentucky lady because that's a government job and she is imposing her religion on her coworkers as well which is unconstitutional.

[–]redditorriot -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Dead link?

[–]thedaringslave1[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just clicked on it and it is fine.

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