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An Op-ed finally not done by a feminist or HuffPost: Do men hate women – justifiably?

Member12

August 17, 2015
66 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/do-men-hate-women-justifiably/
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Title An Op-ed finally not done by a feminist or HuffPost: Do men hate women – justifiably?
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Member12

Upvotes 66
Comments 18
Date August 17, 2015 11:49 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3hdouh/an_oped_finally_not_done_by_a_feminist_or/
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[–]Demonspawn 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Read this comment:

“[W]hat your campus feminist shariah tribunals are trying to do [is deny] men the civil rights accorded to all by the Constitution and our traditions of law. It is an attempt to answer the question: How do we allow young women to engage in a psychologically damaging promiscuity while relieving her of the responsibility for the remorse she will feel if she does what we encourage her to do? Your answer is to call her consensual partner a rapist so she can assume the mantle of victim and not that of equal agent. Pressure relieved, bring on the next romp. Of course, the law will not permit that strategy. So the feminist answer is to bypass the law and convene a feminist shariah show trial. Sacrificing young men to the feminist agenda. And you wonder why I warn young men to stay away from American women.”

Then read this: https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/12/09/the-missing-fear/

It is just the White Knight Brigade is saving women from responsibility once again.

Then realize the scary part: the WKB is government. Government answering to women's 55% control of suffrage.

[–]dungone -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Except that the premise is all wrong - these people actually hate sex and are doing everything in their power to stigmatize it all. They go out of their way to convince women that they had been raped.

[–]Demonspawn 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Except that the premise is all wrong - these people actually hate sex

No, they hate men.

They have no problem with lesbian sex.

[–]dungone 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Feminists hate men and hate sex. College administrators, on the other hand, have always singularly hated sex. They have always tried to preside over sex on campus and feminists have given them the perfect progressive sounding excuse.

I can find you numerous socially conservative / religious concern trolls, similar to the comment you quoted above, who celebrate the rampant anti-sex climate as some sort of indication of them having been right all along that sex is bad. These people are a part of the problem, not the solution.

Nobody cares about lesbian sex because no one knows what the point of it is. Not even lesbians. Ever hear of lesbian bed death? Can't control something that never happens and nobody wants to if it doesn't give them power over men.

[–]Demonspawn -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're not getting it. There's nothing wrong with sex.

However, it is damaging to women to have a large number of partners before they settle down with their final partner. It harms their ability to bond and results in high rates of divorce. Sex isn't bad, but promiscuity is.

As for lesbians, the deathbed happens often because they are both women. Women want to be pursued and their sex drive is actually responsive to pursuit. When you have two people who both responsive to pursuit together and neither is pursuing... deathbed.

[–]JayBopara 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it sums it up the principle reasonably nicely. Men do not hate women; men hate feminists, in particular misandric authoritarian feminists (and they can be men - purple poodles & white knights).

[–]jeruka 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Don't be fooled by this woman. She is most certainly disingenuous and doesn't have men's best interest at heart. One sentence betrays that: "It denies them the ability to fulfill their biological programming as protectors and providers, because to do so is “sexist.”"

To her a man is a work horse created to serve her needs by protecting and providing. A woman on the other hand is inherently valuable, noble and deserving of men's resources. She is only attacking feminism now because feminism is interfering with her ability to leech of men using the age old traditionalist paradigms. Anyone who is advocating for traditional division of labour in time where homemaking can be achieved by turning a few dials on male inventions, isn't your friend. She is trying to appeal your egos to have her slaves back. Fuck that.

[–]Lethn 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Still an arrogant and venomous article like anything you'd expect to be written by a lot of these women as one person in their own comments page pointed out "If men want woman back" that's a line I always think a misandrist uses to try yet again to shame men into their control again.

[–]chavelah 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's certainly a gender essentialist, and those people are irritating as fuck, but I'm not sure that the generalization is wrong. Allowing for outliers, most college women probably don't truly desire to do as much random screwing as the current social climate encourages, and most young men aren't inherently averse to providing for a wife and children at home - their problem is the provider-unfriendly legal climate, not the notion of protecting and providing. I believe that individuals vary greatly, but there are mindsets that correlate with gender to a surprising degree.

[–]MonkeyCB 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism when they're in their 20's, traditionalism when they're in their 30's.

[–]rg57 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's an interesting read. (I'm not certain I agree with the final sentence)

Too bad wnd.com is the place they chose to put it. It's even less credible than HuffPo, which is saying something.

[–]Member12[S] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean it's not 'they'. It was one lady that wrote it and had nothing to do with religion or contain any political rhetoric. Was simply an opinion piece which everyone has the right to express. (Doesn't hold radical feminists back from their absurd claims) So I think we can let the website slide on this one.

[–]ghebert001 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This comment she used as an example could not have been said better:

“[W]hat your campus feminist shariah tribunals are trying to do [is deny] men the civil rights accorded to all by the Constitution and our traditions of law. It is an attempt to answer the question: How do we allow young women to engage in a psychologically damaging promiscuity while relieving her of the responsibility for the remorse she will feel if she does what we encourage her to do? Your answer is to call her consensual partner a rapist so she can assume the mantle of victim and not that of equal agent. Pressure relieved, bring on the next romp. Of course, the law will not permit that strategy. So the feminist answer is to bypass the law and convene a feminist shariah show trial. Sacrificing young men to the feminist agenda. And you wonder why I warn young men to stay away from American women.”

[–]logic11 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A trad-con by any other name...

I'm not here to try and bring us back to unsustainable gender roles that should have been discarded centuries ago, but to talk about how the laws have changed in ways that sometimes remove men from civil rights.

[–]Lobstermansunion 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This author is just pissed men are leaving the traditionalist plantation. She couldn't care less about men except for what she wants men to do for her.

Feminism is not the enemy of men. Feminism is a manifestation of the dark side of female nature. It's very important the MRM not lose sight of that. It is very possible Feminism will go by the wayside in the next ten years. Women will still demand all the absurdities they demand now, but call it something else. It's good to fight feminism but don't lose sight of the enemy - women's nature.

[–]Claude_Reborn -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

World net daily?

Into the trash it goes.

[–]Mitschu -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What astonished me was the level of anger from men. And I mean pure sputtering fury

With such educational examples of unconstrained irascibility as:

Feminists want it both ways, and if legally abusing men is what it takes to get there, then that is what they will do.

So damn furious.

So the feminist answer is to bypass the law and convene a feminist shariah show trial. Sacrificing young men to the feminist agenda. And you wonder why I warn young men to stay away from American women.

So much unbridled rage.

No matter where one goes, there is a palpable hatred for anything male/masculine, and it comes in many forms.

I can feel the levels of anger radiating from this.


... nah, I'm going to call a Code Red here. Simply stating an inapprobate opinion matter-of-factly does not impute "sputtering fury."

[–]firstpitchthrow -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

World Net Daily, the site that makes the supermarket tabloids look credible. Tabloids are glorified fan fic, but at least they're fiction about real people. WND is the source of choice for people who think the problem with Harry Potter was that it was too realistic.

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