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Twitter to increase sexist hiring practices

sfmra

June 19, 2015
138 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.heforshe.org/impact/adam-bain/
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Title Twitter to increase sexist hiring practices
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sfmra

Upvotes 138
Comments 26
Date June 19, 2015 6:45 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3adlsv/twitter_to_increase_sexist_hiring_practices/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/twitter-to-increase-sexist-hiring-practices.977243
https://theredarchive.com/post/977243
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Comments

[–]RockFourFour 51 points52 points53 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Ah yes, "he for she". A group dedicated to portraying women as impotent children, and men as their anointed protectors riding in on white steeds.

Unbelievably sexist, misandrist, and misogynistic. Scum of the earth.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

and men as their anointed protectors riding in on white steeds.

Ya know...if they'd go back to actually being worthy of knightly protection I'd be down with donning my hounds-head helm.

Shit, even Arya, mouthy and "unlady like" as she is knew the value of loyalty to others.

(I like Game of Thrones)

[–]soalone34 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women were never worthy of knightly protection. People including men, women, and others on the other hand are and always have been. Traditionalist chivalry's misandry is too often over looked.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People including men, women, and others on the other hand are and always have been

Fair enough. Though my statement wasnt intended to imply protecting women to the exclusion of others

[–]cuteman 20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Considering their stock price compared to their revenue and profit they should probably focus on making money first.

[–]ExpendableOne 24 points25 points26 points 11 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

Are there a lot of girls growing up telling themselves "I want to go work for twitter but I can't because there are too many men there"? Is that a thing? Wouldn't that make those women just giant sexist bigots for thinking that way? I mean, would you ever have someone go "I want to go work for myspace but there are too many black people there, so I'm not going to"?

[+][deleted] 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

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[–]ExpendableOne 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

My main problem with the push for women in STEM is that they are really going at it all wrong, for all the wrong reasons.

Instead of telling girls "Hey! STEM fields are really cool. Being nerdy is not a bad thing, it's a great thing. Nerdy guys are pretty awesome!", it's pretty much just "FUCK YOU YOU SCUMBAG MISOGYNISTS NECKBEARDS IN STEM STOP TRYING TO KEEP WOMEN OUT!". What kind of message do they think they're sending to women by misrepresenting those fields, and the male majorities that are overly represented in them(who are, if anything, quite desperate to have more women in their own social circles)? How is teaching girls to further belittle and resent boys in STEM going to entice them into joining those fields, prepare them in dealing with men in those fields or teach men to be more inclusive of women who hate them or view them with disdain? It would be like trying to get more men into nursing by telling them that nursing field needs more men because it's over-saturated with fat, lazy, unattractive and men-hating women. Instead of trying to address the negative prejudices that girls grow up to have towards nerdy guys(which stem from all kinds of shitty double-standards, gender roles and unrealistic expectations towards men), they set out to make men out to be the villains because women don't like them(which is kind of a double-blow).

[–]augustfell 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

the problem is feminist activists have an incentive to create antagonism and to not really solve problems. It's really an issue most institutionalized special interests face, it's just that they are way more institutionalized than MRAs and other groups.

[–]ExpendableOne 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

But, it's like they don't even want women in STEM, to be honest. Over the past 50-60 years, you've seen women join plenty of prestigious fields that were formally male dominated. Doctors, lawyers, big businesses, finances, etc... all these fields had way more misogyny in them than STEM fields(nerdy guys are, if anything, incredibly placating to women), and yet women are now considerably more represented in those fields than in STEM. Why?

Because the men in those fields are still, and have always been, idolized by women. They were always considered as attractive to women because they were "rich and powerful", and had that social prestige/allure. Feminists didn't get women into those fields by shitting on those fields and constantly berating and belittling male doctors and lawyers. Because those fields were heavily represented by men who represented stereotypical ideals of what men should be, they made those fields attractive to women. Women aren't into STEM fields because they don't want to surround themselves with the type of men(typically unmasculine, inexperienced, shy and soft-spoken) they have been taught to ridicule their entire lives.

[–]Alzael 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But, it's like they don't even want women in STEM, to be honest.

Well yeah,that's because they don't.Things such as that are how they leverage power.If women were in STEM they wouldn't be able to complain about sexism.Without sexism they have no power.

[–]Blutarg 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are there women who want to get into those fields, but aren't doing it? Because for years there have been a mountain of programs to get more women in there but with little result.

[–]baserace 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Laughable and scary at the same time.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

all for the sake of protecting themselves from the class action lawsuit.

but by openly supporting this, they are only providing validity to the lawsuit. regardless of whatever actions they execute now, at the time Twitter had marred her career.

[–]MittenMagick 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Allowing everyone to have the same opportunity to succeed should be the goal of every business and every industry.

Same opportunity != Giving hiring preference to women. That's unequal opportunity.

[–]leftajar 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The ironic truth is, for the small minority of women possessing the pertinent tech skills, it's insanely easy to get hired by Twitter. They, and other similar companies, are falling all over themselves to hire females so as not to appear sexist. Yet, we live in a patriarchy.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Please don't direct-link - you're giving them ad revenue.

[–]asdfasf232 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If they really wanted to get women into STEM, they would hire a PR firm to glamorize STEM, not force quotas and all this other BS. And even then, I doubt it would work, because results matter. Don't make Highschool football the most popular sport in highschool; make it science club or computer class. Women respond to social cues more so than men. In an alternate world, if all the jocks and popular girls joined those clubs and it was something that a lot of people were interested in, idolized, I bet women might be more interested in it. But the fact is, most woman simply are not interested in it. Hell, a lot of men aren't either. Whether they are wired that way or not is not for me to decide, but lets quit this bs: Men aren't conspiring to keep women out. There just aren't a lot of women interested in STEM fields. Ask any hiring manager now, are women favored in STEM fields over men because of meritless quotas and wanting to be "Politically Correct" and "not Misogynist". The answer would be yes. This is just more BS. Women simply aren't as interested in the field as men.

[–]kotmfu 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome. It's not an uneven work force because they don't want to hire women, it's because it just happens to be in this field there are more men who know what they are doing.

At my Job there is a single female software engineer. Not because they don't want to hire women but because none apply. I don't get why this is so hard to understand

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Social media has always been designed for women.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not sure if designed that way, but they quite clearly appeal to women more and have more regular female users than male.

Men seem to be more drawn to the anonymous message-board types of spaces like reddit and 4chan. Possibly because it allows us to fling offensive banter around without fear of social consequences.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope social media is and was designed by people (mostly men) that are generally socially inept in part trying to make a streamlined and simplified way for people to interact. Complex human dynamics and interpersonal relationships are reduced down to votes, likes, shares, pokes, badges, and icons as they find it far less challenging than "real" human interaction. Creators of social media create a world apart from the "real" world that reflects how they view human interaction and a space they can control. Often the result because the people that develop social media don't excel at interpersonal interaction, there youth being a driver for seeing the world as less complex than it actually is drives conflict. If you are older and where around before social media became huge you have noticed how social media drives drama and conflict in interpersonal relationships that previously where without conflict and drama. While also moving human interaction more into the mode of playing a game. Thoughts?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope social media is and was designed by people (mostly men) that are generally socially inept in part trying to make a streamlined and simplified way for people to interact. Complex human dynamics and interpersonal relationships are reduced down to votes, likes, shares, pokes, badges, and icons as they find it far less challenging than "real" human interaction. Creators of social media create a world apart from the "real" world that reflects how they view human interaction and a space they can control. Often the result because the people that develop social media don't excel at interpersonal interaction, there youth being a driver for seeing the world as less complex than it actually is drives conflict. If you are older and where around before social media became huge you have noticed how social media drives drama and conflict in interpersonal relationships that previously where without conflict and drama. While also moving human interaction more into the mode of playing a game. Thoughts?

[–]augustfell 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's scary when a information-based monopolist decides to push political views.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, but it is nothing new in history. Still the trend is towards the democratization of information with all the good and bad that will bring.

[–]ahatabat 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Message received. If you're a man, work for Twitter's competitors.

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