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Female Judge noting "[anti-male] double standard in this society" sentences pedophile Female Teacher to 6-15 years in prison.

wrez

March 20, 2015
280 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/oakland-county/2015/03/17/female-teacher-gets-prison-sex-student/24902401/
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Title Female Judge noting "[anti-male] double standard in this society" sentences pedophile Female Teacher to 6-15 years in prison.
Author

wrez

Upvotes 280
Comments 22
Date March 20, 2015 5:21 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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Comments

[–]kxxstarr 33 points34 points35 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Cases like this need to be looked at as "teacher has sex with underage student" and not specify the gender. They should be represented only by an attorney and the jury shouldn't know gender, only the facts of the case. That is the only way that these cases will be sentenced equally, but that will obviously never happen.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed, and all of those cases should be diligent about determining whether or not there was consent from the minor. I'm fine with laws against adults having sex with minors, but treating a consensual encounter the same as a forced one is really stupid.

A teacher who goes to jail for raping her 16 yo male student that goes on to brag about it is not the same as the one who forcefully takes their student or threatens them with bad grades or some other blackmail for sex.

I realize my opinion on this matter isn't very popular...

[–]KillTheGovernmentNow 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I am glad they are now sentencing male/female violators the same, but I wish they had brought men's sentences down rather than womens up. Now they have to bring both of them down.

[–]Samurai007_ 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In order to make people care about reducing sentences for everyone, first you must raise them for women to match men's and require that men's and women's be the same. Then when people say "Oh what an injustice to women" and lower the sentences, they'll be lowered for men too. That'll be much easier than trying to get people to care about men only...

[–]mikesteane 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

This has already been posted. The majority of the comments on the earlier posting were along the lines of the sentence being out of proportion to the crime and that this is not made any better by the fact that it is the sort of thing that men normally have to deal with.

[–]Badantiseptic 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

By out of proportion you mean 15 years is too soon to let this predator back out right?

I mean I get what your saying. Men are punished more harshly then women. But in this case this needs to be fixed by punishing female pedophiles harder.

[–]CisAryanSection 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

What specifically makes her a predator? All I got from the article is that she had sex with a fifteen-year-old student. Fifteen is legal in some states and most European countries. As far as I can tell, the only problem is the student-teacher relationship. That in itself is not enough to conclude any force was used. Seeing as she was convicted of "third-degree" offenses, my guess is the relationship was consensual.

She should be fired and disbarred from any position where she has authority over minors. However, prison time should be reserved for people who commit acts of violence.

[–]BeyondTheLight 17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

He is kind of (probably) aiming at the double standard that is present. Male teacher has sex with female student? He has ruined her life! He probably had sex with her against her will! She isn't capable of the decision to have sex or not! Female teach has sex with male student? He must have liked it! He is a pussy for crying about getting 'raped'. It is less emotionally severe for boys! Something around these lines.

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[–]foxyramirez 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Being capable of making a decision doesn't necessarily mean you're wise enough to make the best decision. And I remember 15 too; my life revolved around my dick because my hormones were going full tilt. I made a lot of bad decisions, but they were with my peers, whom were doing the same. As an educator, they have a responsibility to teach good decision making skills, not take advantage of the lack thereof.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the right direction.

[–]Castigale 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hate to break it to you, but people make bad decisions at every age.

[–]Badantiseptic 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm fine with teenage sexuality. If two teenagers were having sex I wouldn't care.

This article was about a rapist not a teenager.

[–]James2117 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She was in a position of power, that makes her a predator

[–]niko7222 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At the end of the article it says ,"She was thrown in prison with killers and pedophiles" . Um what does she think she is. I felt they were trying to make the teachers out to be the victims in the whole article.

[–]AngraMainyuu 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was listening ot some talk about this earlier, about we need to start seeing more boys as victims of sex abuse and what-not. I've heard about how it affects girls and guys the same, but the inner processes are divergent.

But you guys have to understand the main reason girls are made out to be victims is because if this message wasn't pushed, more verile men would pursue younger girls. There is a HUGE push to limit men on who they're allowed to date. This is primarily why so many sex offense cases are centered around how bad men are. We're the ones they're trying to control.

The message isn't "sex between an adult and a minor is wrong" , the message is "Older men aren't allowed to have be intimate (sans sex even) with a young female."

This is why its taken society so long to try to compensate for the oversight. In fact I don't think they'll ever be sweeping reform to the way female offenders are prosecuted.

[–]CellularPeptideCake 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'll say the same thing I said the last time this was posted. I would say the same thing if it were a male teacher and female student. First of all, sex with a 15 year old does not make one a pedophile - a 15 year old is an adolescent. Second, this is absurd oversentencing no matter who the perpetrator is.

[–]participationNTroll 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is there a statistic of male vs female convictions and sentences. I'm a few drinks gone. Sorry if incoherent

[–]autotldr 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 85%. (I'm a bot)


Mike Martindale, The Detroit News 9:53 a.m. EDT March 18, 2015.Defendant Kathryn Ronk expresses remorse for her victim as she addresses Judge Nanci Grant during her sentencing on Tuesday.

While state guidelines suggest 51-85 months for the offense, Judge Nanci Grant sentenced Kathryn Ronk of Birmingham to 6-15 years in prison.

Grant told Ronk she appreciated her contrition, especially considering letters of support she had received from the woman's family and friends, which the judge found offensive.


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[–]wrez[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Justice is served!

Judge Nanci Grant for President!!!!

[–]eletheros -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's so sad that this judge has just ended her potential for appointment to a federal court.

Don't even know her politics, meaning which President would appoint her, but having a judge that can actually sentence in the neutral manner required by the law and constitution is more than most judges.

However: Title is clickbait. She is not a pedophile. Statutory rape is not child molestation.

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