How am I meant to compete with guys who take steroids?

NexusReflexX · 2018-05-30T05:06:10+00:00

Why you trying to compete with them? Compete with the person you were yesterday and be better than him

Throwaway-242424 · 2018-05-30T05:18:27+00:00

The country I live in, pretty much >50% of guys who hit the gym between 18-40 takes steroids

Sounds like hamstering. You're hardly pushing natty limits at the moment - most dudes don't even look conspicuously like they lift when they're clothed until their BMI hits 25

Whisper · 2018-05-30T07:22:35+00:00

In this thread, we see the male anorexic in his natural habitat (the internet), engaged in his natural range of behaviour (bitching about other people and making excuses).

The male anorexic may also be found in the gym, benching 135 lbs with his tiny little stick arms day after day, year after year, without making any "progress" because he won't "eat a damn sandwich" for fear of losing his "abs" (a fashion trend whereby visible evidence of anorexia is mistaken for strength).

LielS30 · 2018-05-30T05:08:10+00:00

Don't ever compare yourself to someone else, focus on YOUR gains and achievements.

vandaalen · 2018-05-30T07:05:43+00:00

Typical strawman to avoid adressing the real problems that keep you from success. In your case probably being an insecure bitch.

Nobody said you have to be the top of the food chain in order to be successful with women. You are already in the top 20% if you are lifting consistently.

anabolic92 · 2018-05-30T06:45:43+00:00

Regarding the physical body, you can't.

They decided to risk their health in order to pursue their hobby/dream body. They grasp the benefits now but who knows in the future.

Also to have an attractive body to women you don't need to use them.

rayrayray1234 · 2018-05-30T05:16:45+00:00

Accept where you are and who you are. When I weighed 120 and all bone I had a hot girl for each season , now I’m 170 and had 1 girl per year until I stopped caring

[deleted] · 2018-05-30T05:21:20+00:00

You dont, you hold your fucking frame and they compete with you.

oneredguy · 2018-05-30T05:19:46+00:00

Game.

TheTrenTrannyTrain · 2018-05-30T05:41:46+00:00

Where do you live?

BecomingChad · 2018-05-30T06:46:03+00:00

you are talking about it as if there is 1 girl in the entire world and every dude is competing for her lmao. Be in the top 5% and you win... that simple

zielkarz · 2018-05-30T13:19:19+00:00

Lol, what country has 50% of male population walking around 190 lbs and 10% bf.

TheGainsGoblin · 2018-05-30T13:21:14+00:00

Ok, I'm going to be blunt. There is a bit too much misinformation and hamstering here. First off, define "decent gains" - I doubt you're ACTUALLY putting in maximum effort into your training and diet. At 5'10" and 165lb there is very little chance that you look any more muscular than a normie. You then define men who use steroids as "cheaters". This is you hamstering away the progress and gains they made while working hard in the gym and on maintaining a proper diet. You don't just pack on 20lb of muscle as soon as you pin a bit of Testosterone. You still need to work your ass off. If you put in 1/2 the effort they did, you might actually make some progress.

Secondly, it shouldn't be of any concern as to how successful those other men are. Be only concerned about yourself and your progress. Always aim to be better than the you of yesterday. Work on your game - that insecurity of comparing yourself to others will fade once your self-confidence improves.

Finally, those that believe that steroids and hormones are going to cause major health issues are ignorant and incorrect. If abused and misused, sure. Of course they will be. Just like recreational drugs, smoking, drinking or even advil. Falling into the misinformation the MSM's fear-mongering of hormones is wilfully ignorant - a definitive BP trait.

Perhaps instead of being jealous and envious of those men, befriend them. Those are possible training partners, wing-men, and it builds a strong social circle - possibly leading to a higher SMV for yourself.

Now go clean your room.

Morphs_ · 2018-05-30T06:18:44+00:00

You're looking at this from a male perspective. You've only looking at their muscle mass. It's one part of the equation. But most steroid guys tend to rely only on their abs and forget pretty much else such as frame and game.

Also, many of those guys are always "off-season" which is their excuse to overeat and have a big gut. Make sure your diet is in order and you do a lot of cardio.

Work on your frame and game and learn how to dance. That's where you can really shine when you're in the club.

Focus your attention on all those women, you're looking too much at the guys. And you wanna know why you do that? Because you're just standing there without interacting with women. So approach, work on that game.

W_O_M_B_A_T · 2018-05-30T07:14:44+00:00

Number 1 cause of death for men is cardiovascular disease.

The majority of the time there are very few or no symptoms beforehand. You just drop dead, or your brain strokes out and quits. Or you spend months bedridden waiting for a transplant, then finally croak. Sure, some people get a triple bypass or a stent or some shit, but most are braindead before they make it to the hospital. Those are the facts.

Maybe you felt some mild fatigue the last few months. Maybe, you've had some mild headaches ocassionally.

One of the major benefits of disciplined lifting and cardio is that it's proven to lower the risk of this and lower blood pressure. However, taking steroids erases this benefit and can increase the risk of this by 1.5x-2x instead.

I'm guessing your country has a much higher rate of cardiovascular disease among men, than the world average. See if you can find some statistics...

But yeah, maybe you'll die suddenly at age 55, but at least you'll get noticed by a bunch of other insecure dude-bros at the gym.

Women don't give a shit, they give a shit about having a strong mental frame.

Title	How am I meant to compete with guys who take steroids?
Author	4nt43us
Upvotes	3
Comments	30
Date	May 30, 2018 4:39 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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