How do normal people expect incls to not be hateful when they are the cause of it?

Exciting-Salary-8344 · 2023-11-14T09:48:44+00:00

Don't expect anything from normies, they can't understand you, even if you explain them your problem...

By the way you are 17, so you are still in school, what I want to say is you won't see your classmates again after school, then think about yourself and if you want to go to therapy go for yourself

throwlostaway · 2023-11-14T07:00:57+00:00

I mean, it isn't other people's fault that someone was born with shitty genetics, or shitty parents, or whatever else

Yeah bullying is never a good thing and more should be done about it

But I guess being hateful doesn't really accomplish anything

Of course if you want to be hateful that's completely your choice I guess. You are entitled to feel that way if you want

Valuable-Marzipan761 · 2023-11-14T07:54:57+00:00

Someone advisin therapy doesn't mean you don't have valid reason to be angry or that nothing imorral ever happened to you. It's just a tool to help deal with trauma.

flipsidetroll · 2023-11-14T15:18:25+00:00

The reason people probably say that is because when you get a bit older, you learn that no one is responsible for how you feel. This does not mean man up, or be stoic or whatever other cope people use. And it is not a man vs women thing. It’s a human nature thing. (Any guy being moronic enough to disagree on this, the shortest search will bring up hundreds of articles, including stoicism philosophers, leaders, academics, psychologists, the list is endless).

I’ll try explain it decently. 1) kids are fucking morons. They have zero idea of consequences. Pretty much most of the “cool kids/bullies” end up living very average lives. 2) no one can make you feel anything you don’t want to. So they have made you think you are a sub five? And this is the insidious nature of bullying….it has nothing to do with whether you actually are that, it’s that they have convinced you that you are. I know a young guy who was a little plump at school. Literally just a tummy. And he actually wasn’t ever bullied, but the way he described himself, you would think Igor but like the guy from Monty python skit. Now he’s in good shape but has to fight those thoughts all the time. And if I think about the kids that bullied at school, not one was anything resembling good looking or special. One was extremely short and bullied my friend mercilessly and made her feel so ugly. And the other was tall but so so skinny. Yet they deemed themselves somehow superior to many and had arrogance and confidence. And this is psychology 101, and you will find this throughout your life, bullies are looking for soft targets. I know you guys think girls are raised to be entitled princesses, but everyone should be raised that way. It doesn’t matter what you think of someone, if everyone was raised to not give a tin shit what anyone else thought, unstoppable. Of course that doesn’t mean behaving terribly to anyone, it just means that anyone behaving badly to you, they can believe whatever they want, you are ok.

Ok. Now the grownup part. Only you are responsible for your feelings. This is a huge issue with men here always blaming others for how they feel. But even then, they are very selective about who to blame. So, imagine, you are dating a girl. You feel madly in love and she tells you she wants to break up because she’s not in love with you. Is she responsible for you feeling in love? No. So she’s also not responsible for you feeling hurt. Let’s reverse that. You and a girl, and she tells you that she’s in love with you. You say you don’t feel the same. And she gets all angry and upset and blames you for her feeling hurt. But you aren’t responsible. You didn’t make her feel those feelings. And your anger now is exactly the same. They may want you to feel a certain way, just as the girl wanted you to feel the same way she did, but what you do feel, is no one else’s to control. Anyone who actively tries to get control of you from negative feelings, is trying to be superior. Any man or woman who tries to tell you what other people think of you, (bullying/putting you down), that’s bullying. I’m not blowing smoke up your ass. This is basic human behaviour. And the simple fact is so what if someone thinks you’re a subfive. Not everyone is going to like you, not everyone is going to find you attractive, but actually forging relationships of all kinds, is what humans need. But if all you project is anger and hatred towards women (was it a woman who tried to drown you? If it was a man, then it shows how you have been made to feel angry at women by whatever colour pill?).

It will be hard for you to see, because you’re young and already distrusting of women, but the textbook program of any cult, is first make you feel understood, and then keep you isolated by making you feel unwanted by everyone else. There is a story about a couple of teenagers who were lonely gamers, and were radicalised by ISIS to feel angry and unwanted and they were convinced to get on a plane and become suicide bombers. And blaming one group for all the ills of the world, and say they will steal your jobs and your money and are evil because, is exactly how another regime could make their citizens turn people in, even if they knew they were sending them to die. And how they made people turn on their neighbours during covid, and report people for stepping out their doors.

I know I won’t convince you from one message, but do yourself a favour and just research who is responsible for feelings and how you can get sucked into any group or organization or cult. And you’ll see from the massive downvotes or pointless replies that can’t debate and don’t want you to stop being angry. Think crisis actors. And I can direct you to a man only group to give you another view. No one is normal. There is a simple quote: be kind because everyone is fighting a hidden battle. So of course there are bad people, bad women, bad men, but not everyone and you may think everyone has it easy, but you can never know what is going on in their lives. I don’t know why you think you are a subfive, but since rating is literally the most subjective thing about attraction, and plenty people over rate themselves, chances are you are mistaken.

StockHamster12 · 2023-11-14T06:54:51+00:00

You're a volcel: https://www.reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/comments/17u4o71/just_got_jokingly_approached_just_leave_women/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

operation-spot · 2023-11-14T14:45:13+00:00

Go to a different school where people don’t know you and try again because you’ll be able to see if the issue is these specific girls or you.

Bring mad is not wrong but it often hides another emotion. Therapy helps you figure out what it is.

SoulBadguy0408 · 2023-11-14T15:04:51+00:00

Reality is just like you need to control your emotions to be a normal member of society. Not that incels shouldn't be angry and the normies have no right to devalue that when a lot of them are the same kinds of people to cause it whenever they laugh at ugly people, make fun of short people online, etc. But a lot of the expectations are just always going to be there, so whatever happens in a person's past will never justify hating women to a wider audience

Title	How do normal people expect incls to not be hateful when they are the cause of it?
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Date	November 14, 2023 6:48 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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