Toxic masculinity doesn't exist

VestigialHead · 2021-08-09T09:09:53+00:00

Because confident and strong men do not put up with feminists bullshit. They hit back when assaulted by women and they stand up for their rights.

So the method feminists have decided upon is to weaken men from the get go - poor health (many are against breast feeding boys), mental instability (keep them second guessing themselves for being toxic).

This all adds up to an easier playing field for feminists to gain more and more privileges and enslave men.

So unfortunately feminists are anything but dumb. They are VERY organised and plan for the long term. It has been extremely successful. They know that much of what they say is outright rubbish and lies - but that molds the idiots in society into giving them what they want.

Zpointe · 2021-08-09T09:26:34+00:00

Because the setup they have is perfect and they know it. It is the golden age right now to be a chick. Men are taught to worship them from day one. Then you get situations like we have now where chicks are selling pictures of their feet for 5k lmao. It's fucking crazy.

LateralThinker13 · 2021-08-09T14:08:03+00:00

I want my son to have a responsibility and not be weak and cry all day having victim mentality like alot of kids these days these

And they don't. They hate men, full stop.

Selfmade_3127 · 2021-08-09T21:05:42+00:00

all of the shit of the last wave of feminism is MADE UP:

gender pay gap ... does not exist (see https://i.redd.it/yxb5djuwk8r01.png), as soon as you control for same job criteria men and women are paid the same ... also ... if it would exists ... every company would fire all men and only hire women so safe costs and to get an edge
patriarchy ... does not exists ... the scape goat thinking template is old as hell and has been used throughout of history multiple times ... always by totalitarian regimes: Stalin invented "Kulaks" (which he described as "privileged" and "parasites" and killed them in Siberia) ... the Nazis invented a "Jewish World Conspiracy" (which also is imaginary, to "justify" the killing of Jews) ... Feminists do the same with the imaginary "Patriarchy" ... they will try "justify" any atrocity in the book with this bullshit
gender is a social construct ... no it's not ... and everybody who really adheres to the scientific method denies this bullshit

the ran out of real problems ... so they started to make up imaginary ones

General-Ad9818 · 2021-08-10T03:32:03+00:00

It’s mostly because feminist hate men and masculinity, so they try to eradicate masculinity as much as possible. What most people fail to realize is that there are toxic people regardless of gender, race or orientation, etc. along with good people being in those categories too. Most people have this black and white type of thinking.

If I have a baby one day and have a son, I would want him to be confident, strong and learn responsibility

ShelterBeautiful · 2021-08-09T18:07:52+00:00

Toxic masculinity is simply feminists projecting their bullshit onto us.

OwenWentFullMGTOW · 2021-08-09T13:31:27+00:00

A lot of women (or at least, a lot of feminists) tend to find the qualities you mention to be threatening.

FerdinandvonAegir124 · 2021-08-09T23:37:19+00:00

Toxic masculinity does exist but so does toxic feminimity. There's a difference off holding in emotion because your a man or just being an unemotional person

avirajsingh0712 · 2021-08-09T08:16:14+00:00

What do you mean by men being men?

akihonj · 2021-08-09T15:08:25+00:00

The Ret that feminists do it is twofold

First men won't compete with women, men won't be able nor capable of competing with women for certain jobs, meaning that it will be easier to push men out if those jobs and force men to take up lower classed roles within society.

The idea being that women deserve to take a place at the table but open and fair competition often means women are at a disadvantage to men who can work longer and in more demanding environments where women would struggle. Remove the competition, only women are filling the roles and then demand that the environment changes to suit their wants.

It's actually counterproductive, in every single field that has been dominated by women the hours reduce, the investment reduces, innovation reduces and wages reduce overall. Mainly because most women at some point want to take time off for children.

Secondly it's due to dominant roles within society, a dominant female group controlling behaviour of men men's they get to behave as they want and men will be too weak to stand up for themselves, to argue back to say no or say enough. A dominant man scares most feminists where men are the enemy regardless of whether or not that man is stronger than them it's utterly irrelevant.

Again this is counterproductive in the long term, world ending also, allow me to explain.

Women often but not always are short term thinkers, men plan for the year the next ten or twenty years, women do not. In general.

It's one of the reasons that when men and women work together they accomplish so much, because there is the shirt term and long term brought together. Women can have fun any time with anything, they can make any situation fun and enjoyable men have to plan their fun.

Here's where it gets counterproductive and world ending, a weak male group in society is fully weak, unable to fight to protect that society, the natural result is that the role falls to women. Now in an ideal fantasy for many feminists this change or shift will happen overnight for the whole world and there will be peace and everywhere will be a land of milk and honey with no poverty and no war.

As long as there is one country that values it's men, that values strong men who are capable of waging war and society with weak men will be at risk, the natural result is that women who are running that society will be forced to negotiate surrender. Form alliances that force them to be the weaker partner or use nuclear weapons far sooner. This is because war, regardless of the tools and weapons available will always require boots on the ground.

That means a lot of well trained people carrying weapons and ammunition and equipment often weighing over 100lb for days, walking over very tough terrain for maybe months on end and closing with the enemy to kill them and requiring them to do it hand to hand or from maybe 100m away.

A well trained and we'll motivated army where the soldiers can carry the weight and equipment easier than the enemy will win, this is because they can get themselves and their equipment to the battlefield easier than the other army.

The end result being an army of women will have to live with taking heavier losses, increased capture and prisoner rape and torture.

The inevitable result is to sue for peace sooner or take extreme measures sooner. History shows us when a woman is leading a battle the war is more protracted, more bloody and more extreme.

There is no reason to expect a society led by women to be any different.

In that situation the society will have to accept that all or nearly every male will be killed, as has always happened before and as recently as the Yugoslavia conflict mass executions of men, that was a society heavily male dominated, how much more would happen when it's female dominated.

The peace would be one sided with the weaker society having to accept a survival occupation force, they'd have to accept their sons brothers and fathers killed by their choices.

Now we have to point out the following, toxic masculinity does not exist, if it did then toxic femininity must also exist. It does not exist because it's defined as any action a man takes that is damaging to himself or society at large. Well what happens when a woman is running a country and takes an action to damage herself or society at large a recent example would be the Argentine economy tanking and their president, I forget her name, attempting to Stoke tensions over the Falklands islands and start a new war over the islands with the UK, knowing that the UK has a far superior military she stokes tensions enough that the UK began to form a task force to prepare to take back the islands and potentially stage and invasion of Argentina.

It needs to be remembered that after the first Falklands war the UK allowed the islanders to vote on their future to be independent of the UK, to be governed by Argentina or remain British territory. The vote was 97% about, to remain British.

It's safe to say then it's mainly used by feminists as a way of doing two things, expressing envy and shutting down conversation.

The expression of envy applies when its relative to perception , let's say for argument sake that a man is beating up another man, the one getting beaten looks weaker, they would argue that's toxic masculinity because it's a use of power and strength by one man over another. What if the stronger man were actually fighting the weaker one to protect a young girl from rape. Now it's not so clear cut but due, in no small part, to their outward disdain for all men weak or strong no man would willingly out himself in harm's way to protect or fight to protect any feminist.

They know that and as a a result are very envious of any other women who could count on the strength and support of men even those who are strangers.

It's also where their argument for toxic femininity comes from, that a woman will serve society and men to such a degree that it becomes harmful to herself, this assumes that men don't do this daily.

The second point them is to shut down any discussion that they don't like or cannot argue against, they don't like it because it does not confirm their biases and cant argue it because the evidence comes from observable reality. The only thing they can do is to claim the man making the statement is a toxic male and hope that he's weak enough to go quiet.

The only way to play the game is to be the toxic male they want to claim you are but be that male in check. Be the dangerous male they are scared of, be the dangerous male they turn to if they needed physical help, be the toxic dangerous male who can keep his emotions under his control.

This does two things, it disgusts them, they hate themselves for wanting you, deep down no woman wants a weak man. It shames them because they know they could never have a man like you, they are attracted to the very thing they say they don't want and are hurt because the very thing they are most attracted to will never want them.

When they shout toxic masculinity, you say yes, simply that and nothing more, they have nothing besides that and when they know that doesn't work they actually have nothing else.

GhengisCon666 · 2021-08-09T21:36:54+00:00

I would highly reccomend learning sentence structure and punctuation.

Babybnuuyboy · 2021-08-09T13:17:27+00:00

I don’t know if I agree with this, because toxic masculinity would be something like when someone is called “unmanly” for wearing or liking the color pink, or “unmanly” for not liking beer or hunting or fishing, and I have seen that happen many times

beff_juckley · 2021-08-16T08:55:01+00:00

I think your post kinda proves toxic masculinity is a thing dawg. There’s nothing wrong with traditionally masculine traits (confidence, strength, competition) but there’s nothing wrong with or less masculine by showing weakness and crying either. You can “have a responsibility” and do all those things. No one has a problem with men being men. It’s a problem when a man is defined only by strength, confidence, or competitiveness, without allowing room for crying, weakness, or any vulnerable emotions. Those are pretty basic human emotions, and men should be allowed to express them freely without judgment from other men or women.

I think the term “toxic masculinity” is a problem tho, because it does feel like masculinity is being attacked. I dunno if there’s a better alternative, but I honestly do believe in harmful masculinity. As a guy, I don’t want to have to be strong or brave all the time. Life gets fucking tough sometimes, and I think there’s immense strength in being able to cry or express those vulnerable emotions too.

Lilpoop777 · 2021-08-09T08:25:59+00:00

Why do people generalize feminists in the worst interpretation possible?

Lilpoop777 · 2021-08-09T07:53:21+00:00

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2019/02/toxic-masculinity-history/583411/

Title	Toxic masculinity doesn't exist
Author	muqhaar_65
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Date	August 9, 2021 7:18 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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