Even talking about talking about men's issues gets OP kabked an incek

I was shocked and pissed at what I saw too. They literally proved exactly what you were saying. The one that had the audacity to call you out because 'women won't attack you', when you never said it would be women AND he was attacking you made, my blood boil. Bunch of uncle Tom's/white knights.

You are 1000% right. It is harder for men to get peer support for mental health and there's not a damn thing wrong with saying that. If you want to use there terms, denying that fact and concealing it is a large part of toxic masculinity.

And the number of people making and upvoting posts blaming you for your observations and trying to tell you it's your fault... I called out a few, I reported a few as well but I doubt it went anywhere.

That sub has some great stuff sometimes. But man, the second the topic goes off course into anything gender related at all, the misandry comes out in full force. For the record, nothing I saw you post was even remotely misogynistic. You were calling out women's in group bias and misandry. You were asking to be heard and for some support. None of that is hateful of women.

Toxic Masculinity^TM (or as I prefer toxic traditional gender norms) is a thing that is promoted by all of society. There is absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be able to bring attention to an aspect of it that is negatively effecting you and is likely effecting other men. But because this part of it is being carried out by women, and women are the protected class, you had to be beat back into your corner. Calling you a misogynist/incel/woman hater/etc. is just them playing their trump card. It's a hail Mary because they've run out of ways to defend their masters.

What's amazing is that 1) the vast majority of society sees being a misogynist as a terrible thing akin to being a rapist, and 2) the people that call others misogynist don't realize that it wouldn't be an effective defence if they person they were calling it are in fact a misogynist. Conversely, try calling someone a misandrist and watch how they either don't even know what it is or don't give two flying fucks that you called them that. If you want to know who's in power just point to the ones you can't criticize.

I hope you can find some help and support. Believe me when I say at the very least I heard you when you spoke up and made those posts, even if I was too late to say anything in the first one. The fact that you're trying so hard to get help tells me enough to know that you're a good person and a good man. If you ever want to reach out to me. (not chat, please, I never see it with the app I use. But PMs I see and will respond to)

Edit, I hope you don't mind that I made this post about your mistreatment. I was just so angry