Am I redpilled?

Royal_Chipmunk_1948 · 2023-01-16T17:03:25+00:00

It's really as simple as be an interesting empathetic Human being that can take care of himself. Under that umbrella falls :Hygiene, fitness, hobbies, knowledge care and being humaine to others and other creatures.

Those redpill coaches give you the simple advice of go to the gym and be confident but use it in a really manipulative insecure way. They wan't you to buy their shit. But first they gotta tell you that your dating failures are always solved the same way :

 Masculinity

Which is a wrong mindest, a good person isn't always a Masculine person. It could be a skinny nerd. I love my skinny nerd friends, it could be a Feminst lesbian, it could be your grandma. But no apparently you don't have enough testosterone, and you're a wagie thats why you should buy a 1 hour call with Hamza for 1000 Dollars and Hustlers university for 50 Dollars a month.... becuase they care about their borthers

SweelFor- · 2023-01-16T17:15:06+00:00

1) Let's look at your hypothesis:

Women want the "alpha male", the man who has a 6 pack and big biceps and is very rich.

2) Let's test your hypothesis by looking at reality:

Are most men in relationship very rich, have a six pack and big biceps? No.

he shows us genetic determinism is false and if you're a man you can be just like him.

Why would you ever want this to happen

tinyhermione · 2023-01-16T17:33:24+00:00

The problem with your theory is that:

1) There is a certain kind of genetic determinism in dating. Both looks and social skills are partly things you are born with.

2) Not all women want the same guy. Just like not all men want the exact same woman. The guy you are describing? I don't want to date him. Not my type.

vcreativ · 2023-01-16T17:18:57+00:00

The "Alpha male" isn't a roid-raged lunatic who abuses women and doesn't provide anything meaningful other than attention in my perspective.

Actual attention is a very real thing. And most people very much lack the capacity for it. Anyone capable of giving attention will be worth far more than the caricature of "man" you describe as "alpha". That person is a very basic human.

The issue is always, pick your masters with care.

"Andrew Tate has been detained in Romania as part of a human trafficking and rape investigation."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64122628

If that's who you want to follow, be my guest. Just don't expect any good to come from it.

WannaSeeMyBoomstick · 2023-01-16T19:49:40+00:00

I'm so tired of the term alpha male. It's so comically stupid. What were these guys called before Red Pill? Warriors? Knights? We need a history person in here.

xvszero · 2023-01-16T22:52:09+00:00

love Tate

Yeah probably redpilled. He's a gross asshole and he absolutely won't help you find anything meaningful.

Trepptopus · 2023-01-16T22:01:04+00:00

OP please watch these two videos. Please please PLEASE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHD8Jun3eUc&t=4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkxNjTMskKI&t=472s

I know I'm asking for 30 minutes of your time, you've given more than that to the redpill and to tate and his opinions. Give 30 minutes to the other side, the counter view. Please. It's only fair.

Naus1987 · 2023-01-16T17:07:23+00:00

When I think of a positive alpha male role model, I think of someone like Superman or captain American.

They can be good, and strong enough to stay true to be going.

Euphoric-Personality · 2023-01-16T20:02:24+00:00

My input on this thread is that you shouldn´t want to be like Andrew Tate, its morally and ethically wrong to build fortune with sex trafficking. You know the guy got arrested right? What kind of Role model is that? do you want to get arrested for forcing woman in the illegal sex market?

I do agree an "alpha male" is a stoic male that achieves development over time and has a purpose. But there are many examples of that, someone already mentioned Captain America, yeah, you wont get the physique without roids, or any superhuman power, but the true strength of Steve Rogers lies in fighting for what is right, be it against or with established societal norms, doesnt that sound Alpha Male? even though he could be wrong?

What about Aragorn of the Lotr, is he really that inhuman? but i dont know if you´ve read or watched the movies.

Lets think about another Role Model, Cristiano Ronaldo is a Role Model in the sense that he was the best (alongside Messi ofc) by sheer talent, and pure raw unstoppable determination. And as far as i know the guy hasnt done any drug or human trafficking.

And let me tell you one thing, do you really think, that Andrew Tate as he is shown on youtube, is the real andrew tate?

Just to give you an example, how many people were mislead by the roided lifter that only eats meat, and that promoted a "natural" "Savage" lifestyle, dont even remember his name, point is, he was a scam, he was just selling subpar products that sold just because it had his brand on it. You dont have to believe everything you see, you need to think.

I tell all this to you agreeing on a lot of things blokes likes Hamza teach, namely, driving for a good physique because why the hell not, its achievable, and its algo an innate product of your hard work and determination.

Even then, there have been many many determined woman out there, i´ve known a few IRL, is will power only a masculine thing, or is it a human trait? Start questioning your actual beliefs just the same way these red pill gurus teach you to do with mainstream lgbtq+ propaganda. You will see, nothing is Red, or Blue.

AssistTemporary8422 · 2023-01-17T04:44:05+00:00

First off the genetic determinism, a lot of my friends and I do not believe in at all.

We know that outcomes are genes + environment. Believing that genes are everything or nothing are both delusional.

An alpha male is someone who has full control over their emotions

According to modern psychology and neuroscience findings, the emotional brain is far more powerful than the rational brain is, our self-control is very limited, and our capacity to change is limited. Any attempts to completely control emotions is just emotional suppression and dissociation into the subconscious, which will result in these emotions bubbling up in more harmful ways in the future.

he has a 6 pack

Women can't see your six pack if your shirt is on which is 99.9% of the time. So it does nothing for you almost all the time.

and big biceps

Its estimated that only 1-2% of guys are actually muscular. It also takes many hours at the gym every week to keep that up, requires a very stringent diet, and you risk injury and wearing out your joins. Most gym guys eventually stop because its just a lot of work for vanity and girls.

I suggest being at a health weight and having decent social skills. Maybe you won't be getting the hottest women but you will find a girlfriend who is about as attractive as you.

and is rich

Its very difficult to become rich and not everyone has that entrepreneur hustling 24/7 personality. The vast majority of small businesses fail, most investors aren't doing that well compared to the S&P, and the majority of small business owners aren't even cracking 6 figures. Its perfectly fine to go to school and get a decent job that pays well.

he's purpose driven and puts his goals and dreams as his top priority if it's not money its for something that will benefit the world as a whole.

Thats some great stuff. But I had the most success with girls when my career wasn't doing well and I was just hanging out and having fun.

overall this mindset has kept me from true depression even in my darkest days

If you are struggling with depression I suggest therapy and medication.

Environmental_Lie561 · 2023-01-16T21:40:17+00:00

An alpha man is one who cares, provides, and protects. He leads everyone in the right direction. Plain and simple.

GotThaAcid5tab · 2023-01-17T13:40:39+00:00

For starters I think the term “alpha” is a bit of an oxymoron.

A gym bro meathead type is not going to be “alpha” in a room full of intelligent people no matter how big his muscles are.

Also did you not see Andrew Tates rap video? How can you take him seriously after that? The guys an absolute joke. He’s not gonna be “alpha” around other professional artists. And he’s a trafficker. Literal scumbag.

Mysterious_Push474 · 2023-01-18T07:12:14+00:00

Like many ideologies, the red pill as a whole has some truth to it. However, a lot of it is overly exaggerated and over reactive. And that’s part of the danger.

For example, a lot of the red pill YouTubers genuinely believe every woman is a hoe who is being flown out to Dubai every weekend as a prostitute. I was watching from the Fresh and Fit podcast in which they asked them how many girls do they really believe that are being flown out like that, and they answered at least 30% of all woman. That’s insane. In reality this number is probably less than 1%, yet their world view is that the a large chunk of the female population are putting out like that.

This is I believe the danger with the red pill. Is it true most woman prefer men with high incomes? Yeah that’s true. Is it true that if you are a man who isn’t making 6 figures then you are doomed to never find a girl? Absolutely not. The red pill YouTubers may make some good points on some topics, but also say things like that are far from the truth.

Title	Am I redpilled?
Author	Natural_Throat6385
Upvotes	2
Comments	81
Date	January 16, 2023 4:31 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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