I'm trying to understand the whole picture and stay neutral. There are valid points on both sides. What's wrong exactly with agreeing with some ideas on redpill that come across as truthful? I don't see a point in hating or being toxic towards women just because there are patterns of behavior occuring with women. To be honest I don't really think you should go balls deep into any community, it's just bound to become very echo-chamber like where people can safely spit their toxic ideas without valid criticism.

Same applies to men too. Most violent people are men. Most schoolshooters are men. Most people in prison are men. Why aren't these things toxic to state? I am not trying to recruit people here or anything I am just curious to understand what's going on. I don't actively take part in redpill communities, I'm just curious.

I grew up with a single mother and had many stepdads as a result. She looked for stability and financial security, and my father was more on the tall/muscular side and sport interested. He wasn't responsible and much of the attraction lied in the fact he just had an attractive appearance. While the future romanic interest were unappealing physically but held other qualities suitable for stability. In one of the splits she even got a large portion of the house being sold while not offering much value financially.

I haven't had a bad breakup or divorce, I've just seen the "redpill" unfold around me as a child from my caretakers. The dichotomy between a stability type of relationship and a short term "good genes alpha" relationship seems very much real. Theres even scientific papers supporting the claim that there's a shift in a womans sexual interest depending on what time in the month it is.

I wonder if this is enough to have this post deleted. I'd love some relevant comments on the matter. Is it wrong to have an interest in how we behave as primates in the social environment we currently live in?