Did you hate women?

RedPillDetox · 2022-01-31T20:45:16+00:00

When i was TRP i hated women. Who in their right mind would not hate women when you're TRP? It's perfectly normal, okay even, to hate women if you think they are all hypersexual social climbers who will merely use you for your money unless you're a good looking psychopath.

I lied to myself telling that i actually "loved women" for their "chaotic nature" as Heartiste (A TRP charlatan guru) used to say but that's just a cope. If the average TRPer admitted to hate women that would create great dissnonance in his mind as he would be made to confront himself in several contradictory ways: If they hate women why do they chase them so veemently? Are they vile for hating women? That's a threat to their sanity and to their self-image of integrity. So they overcompensate by convincing themselves they're actually the good guys who accept women just the way they are. Pure cope.

All TRPers hate women. It's impossible not to. There's no such thing as "loving women for their nature" when you believe the version TRP makes of them. Actually getting a TRPer to admit he hates women is key to his detox process as it's the first step to make him confront his self-deceptive mind.

Terrible-Ad3405 · 2022-02-01T10:54:53+00:00

I can’t understand how sone men have such hate for women. Usually women only start to hate men if they act sexist, assault them, cheat on them…and not even then women seem to hate all men. For men all it takes is a couple of rejections. At least with these red pillers…

Red_Trapezoid · 2022-01-31T19:36:41+00:00

I grew up in a household where I was abused emotionally and physically by my grandmother and mother. At school I was berated and harassed by girls for not being manly. I hated women way before finding the redpill trash. Redpill stuff just seemed to "confirm" my suspicions.

MettaSuttaVegan · 2022-01-31T20:22:28+00:00

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tehWoodcock · 2022-02-01T03:01:46+00:00

I wish it wasn't true, but yeah. It wasn't so much what TRP posted as it was that a lot of female oriented blogs and the like would flat out echo what these Red Pillers were saying, even if it wasn't as extreme language. It just felt like me being me was a lost cause, that I have to adopt some alpha traits, I have to play games, or I'd never be good enough, and all I could think was, if a guy did this kinda thing, a good number of women would rightfully call him on it and nobody would think lesser of them for doing it.

CalmLake1 · 2022-01-31T21:38:44+00:00

Back in highschool I was kinda deep in the hatred of women. It manly started back in the 6th when I started to like girls for real. One of my first crushes was this heavy set girl that I thought she was bad man. Cute smile, brown skin, freckles. She became one of my biggest bullies that I remember. She also had a lot of influence on other people which made it harder on me since I'm getting teamed up every day by her and her posse.

He was relentless on me. Anything she could possibly think of. Said I stinked most of the time, called me ugly, ashy, retarded, smack me. It was manly her and her girlfriends that did this to me. I couldn't really fight or Know how to stand up for myself. The teachers were oblivious to the bullying which made me even more helpless. Hell I even get myself in trouble on purpose so they can send me to ISS so I don't have to deal with her. I was genuinely scared of that girl. All this flipped over to 7th grade. Grades got so bad I had to repeat 7th grade.

Jump to highschool I gotten some backbone to myself and was bigger than most of the students. I've gotten cold, I didn't talk, and I did not want to make friends. Occasionally I saw my bully roaming around the school from a distance. At this point I'm towering over here. She was so small compared to me. And she was still beautiful to me. I could not get her out of my head. This made me bitter and skeptical to any girl that approached me. This made me believe that women are hateful creatures. I HATED them. A good 2 years of woman hating and some anti sjw videos and redpill mgtow videos, it was set in stone for me.

Now 22 years old and haven't been in redpill since 2020. This detox been real good for me. I developed good habits. Got into skincare heavy, losing decent wieght. I've learn to ease out and take advancements. But I'm not gonna lie this have been almost a decade ago since middle school. if I were to find my bully one day, and the man that I am now becoming, I would still ask her out. I know this story might not be a good one or a lot of stuff in between that's missing out, but this is my coming of age story. And also to the woman on this subreddit. If you happened to know my face in real life, and I was mean, or prejudiced or creeped out by me back in highschool I am genuinely sorry. You know the reason why. I wish y'all a blessful day, and smacking me back to reality.

Gaddammitkyle · 2022-01-31T17:08:12+00:00

To be honest, hate is a strong word. I hate Kim Jong-un, Randy Stair and Peter Scully, people who have done revolting things, abused power and created giant waves of misfortune in human existence. I am more disappointed by women to the point of anger and bitterness, mostly. Mostly with sexy/attractive women. What used to inspire interest and desire now triggers feelings of mistrust and disdain. It's become a reverse halo effect, one of the main contributing factors to "simp behavior".

With the halo effect, it works like the "above reproach" Lifetime Reward from the Sims games, where you get a pass on shitty behavior based on how attractive you are. People let a lot of shit slide when it comes to attractive people, and once you realize that you let someone walk all over you, disrespect you and actively use you because you idealized them in your mind, and accepted crumbs of approval from them, you go into a self defensive mode of lashing out. You feel like you need to take the power back from the people you gave it to.

Nobody can feel proud of simping, and once you know you were doing it its incredibly embarrassing. Some women will never tell you that you're doing it though, they will just reap the benefits, let their ego inflate and keep you around to see how far you'll go so they can joke about it with their friends.

So then you begin to wonder if every woman is secretly like that. If every woman is keeping her shitty side a secret and has no interest in being a genuine person to anyone, and would rather fake it than cultivate authentically good personality qualities. There are a lot of shitty people out there, as Sturgeons Law applies to most of humanity. Nobody knows if its 60%, 80% or 90% of people are just not worth knowing, and for many introverts with small friend circles, discovering that the person you are sexually attracted to is a huge piece of shit is really disheartening.

You just start to believe "if they're hot they're probably bitches" and most times its true, but when you come across a person you are attracted to who seems super decent, you dont get excited, you get paranoid. Will they stay like this? Will they get friends who will convince them to change?

Sometimes I think all men and women are meant to grow up to be lying assholes and bitches and the rest of us who want genuine connections just drank too much of the "be nice" Kool-Aid, and are basically setting ourselves up to be used and abused by the worst of the worst.

bubi1234 · 2022-02-01T10:08:33+00:00

Fear, Jealousy and maybe a little bit of Hate towards women led me on the way to find TRP.

But I never really was Redpill though, I just adapted very little of the concepts.

Disastrous_Version50 · 2022-02-01T15:37:04+00:00

Absolutely it did and I am facing battles every day to change this way of thinking. I’d assume that most men stumble upon the red pill after being messed over by a woman they really cared about (happened to me, got milked for my daughter relationship ended shortly after having her) because we try to rationalize what happened. Top this with Black Phillip Show (godfather of red pill) and you start to see the general behavior of women and start to hate them for it.

Cannot speak for everyone but I know my frustration came from feeling like I was lied to all of my life by society, family, media, etc. But here is the caveat about all of this:

IT’S OUR FAULT (MEN)

We give the unearned attention, we give gifts and such hoping to get laid, we let women walk all over us in the relationship, etc. Flip the script. If you had women approaching you every day would you not innately develop a mindset that I have so many options that I can act however I want with women and STILL have options?

Should we as men really be mad at women for just innately following their biological mating strategy, or should we start to begin to look within ourselves and realize that we (speaking in general terms) are not doing everything we possibly can to be the best version of ourselves i.e. the best option for women.

I’m overweight, I’m an asshole to people idk (usually only when I drink), introverted, lack overwhelming charisma, etc BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS…. I can fix these issues. I can start traveling, I can diet, I can hit the gym, I can up my fashion game, I can take improv/comedy classes for humor, I can go to toastmasters to become a better speaker, I can go to MMA to learn how to physically protect my loved ones.

COMING FROM A MAN WHO IS OVERCOMING WHAT A LOT OF MEN FEEL WITH THE RED PILL TOWARDS WOEMN, I CAN SAY ITS NOT WOMEN WHO ARE THE ISSUE, ITS WE AS MEN NOT BEING THE BEST VERSION AND HAPPY WITHOURSELVES THAT CAUSE THIS ANGER. STEP YOUR GAME UP GENTLEMEN

2022-02-02T08:08:37+00:00

I am not redpilled and I came across this subreddit by mistake, but I kind of want to vent a bit.

I had a very bad break up almost 2 years ago, she was a freaking emotionless psychopath. I do hate my ex a lot, I mean she microcheated and had the audacity to come later to say sorry, she had to do it after she dumped me. Once that happened, I started despising women a lot, my ex seemed like a really nice person on the surface, but she was full of snakes, and subconsciously I made that connection in my head, that any beautiful nice woman is a piece of shit. I have not dated in 2 years as well, I do not feel attraction anymore.

However, logically, I know that I am at the wrong, good and bad people exist everywhere. The people in the redpill community ( which my friends are a part of) think its in women's nature to cheat and they hate women for it. Most of them, are just hurt people who had a really bad experience. They just can not love anymore or trust, they dont want to experience the same thing again, and I do believe this one thing, that men dont move on as easily as women from break ups, especially when they are in love.

Lastly, I want to tie this story and how it relates to me, I am unable to trust or love anyone romantically, so I can relate to them, I can understand where they are coming from, but I can not join them because I know that it is just emotional damage and a coping mechanism

storytyme00 · 2022-02-03T06:44:38+00:00

I never really hated women but I did see them as a monolyth for a bit. Then I started dating a lot. I never really treated women badly. I enjoy talking to people and being social and talking about common interests so my knowledge of the red pill never really made me have too negative interactions with women. And the more experience I got, the more the red pill became obviously bullshit. Should you strive to be the best version of yourself? Yes. No woman wants to be with a bum. Should you be in shape? yeah, would you want something different from your significant other?

Trill_Hicks333 · 2022-01-31T19:04:24+00:00

Upon reading this post title, I'm reminded of a quote from the late Patrice O'Neal. In one of his legendary radio recordings Patrice made this comment in reaction to the response of men on the internet to the infamous "2 Girls 1 Cup" video.

"Do you understand how disgusted...I'm not happy there's a whole crew up people throwing up cause they're watching two beautiful women shit on each other and give us the service of throwing up on each other..do you know why that's sexy?...it's not cuz I like shit...it's cuz I hate women!.."

Patrice goes on to describe the degrees of obscenity the average human can witness online. He's shocked that 2G1C (which, in his opinion, was tame by comparison) would freak so many men out. After this he describes the common occurrence of being turned down by a beautiful woman -- after building up the courage (or status, to see yourself fit) to say hello.

"I have to do all this shit..to impress you...car, conversation, personality, sparkly jacket, good hygiene, gotta make sure my nails are clean...make sure my sneakers are clean, my pinky ring shining...just to find out that you'll shit in a cup?...not only shit in a cup but throw up on each other?!"

All the men in the room laugh. What Patrice is getting at here is an underlying resentment that not only men have for women, but women have for men as well as each other. Patrice, like any good comedian, is after the irony of the underlying truth.

~

Now my opinion:

There is such a thing as a healthy amount of contempt that both men and women regard each other with. This stands to reason since we're constantly at odds and simultaneously dependent upon each other for the survival/continuation of our species. To say the absolute least.

In truth, however, I did not always understand this, and I (by admission of women I pursued) would overvalue or idealize women. I did this for most if not all of my boyhood and while I cant say I ever came to hate women I had to radically adjust my mental point of origin in order to change the quality of relationship I would have in the future.

I have a friend who, like me (but more extreme) would err towards idealization and at the time accuse me of "hating women" as I encouraged him to take more pride in himself about a decade ago. He doesn't argue that anymore.

TRP didn't lead me to hate women. An understanding of a shared male experience led me to TRP.

That being said I went to great lengths to deconstruct my pov on this matter, and this journey began for me LONG before YouTube existed (which is how I imagine most came to know TRP)

If I had to guess...the rise in TRP content has more to do with a human response to an age old QUESTION of truth between the sexes, although it has given (and perhaps will continue to) give platform to hateful -- and hate-filled -- males (Eliot Rogers, etc).

Redbull6735 · 2022-01-31T21:11:34+00:00

I don’t hate women. They just don’t care for the struggles of being a man so I don’t really care for the struggles of being a woman. All of the women in my life typically show up when I’m doing well, making good money, and traveling. Since either multiple women want me or no one wants me I just pick the most attractive who’s fun to hangout with.

I’m pretty numb to catching feelings so I just do my own thing and if the girl I’m with leaves I don’t really care.

foofuufou · 2022-01-31T19:29:06+00:00

I don't like a majority of women no

Knight_of_Inari · 2022-02-01T02:29:04+00:00

I didn't, I just understood a little better how some of them operate, I can't hate a superficial woman just because she wants a white tall chad, that's just who she is, we all have preferences.

roughback · 2022-02-01T13:49:30+00:00

Hate? No... Not any more than you hate a shark, a bear, or a mountain lion. Sure, if you lose a limb messing with a shark, a bear or a mountain lion you can say that you hate them, but most victims of sharks, bears or mountain lions come to respect those predators for what they are, and often return to the seas, forests or mountains where those predators make their homes.

But they often return with cautionary tales for all others, and become advocates not only for those predators but also try to educate others on the dangers that you face if you go into their environments unprepared.

Am I saying that all women are ambush predators with no accountability, functioning on instinct whose only goal is to survive and reproduce? No, of course not. It just seems like they are, when you look at their actions and behavior patterns from a distance. Up close they look cute and fuzzy, loveable and huggable.

Hate? No... Just a healthy respect for how they can be.

2022-02-18T13:07:29+00:00

I still don't care for a single woman i've ever met. They're just too different from me to the point where i cannot begin to understand their point of view and reasoning. The women that did seem to care about me were just playing around with me or using me as a practice bag for flirting. Probably because i'm an autist that can't recognize social cues or red flags even if they're obvious.

Title	Did you hate women?
Author	storytyme00
Upvotes	12
Comments	57
Date	January 31, 2022 3:18 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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