I think I'm turning into a fascist please help

Snoo52682 · 2021-02-27T08:19:59+00:00

Do you understand that fascism dehumanizes and devalues many/most groups of people? Your friends aren't disconnecting or "censoring" you because you're edgy, it's because the things you say actually hurt them. Because those ideas have led to people being tortured, enslaved, killed.

You're demanding a non-straw-man argument when your own core belief--that "out of all the guys who like her.. [a woman] will choose the one who is genetically and economically superior"--is dancing on the Yellow Brick Road singing "If I Only Had a Brain." Humans don't have, like, mating seasons where All the Males present themselves to All the Females, who then take their pick. Women are rarely-to-never choosing between relationship options; we don't always go for the richest guy; and what is "genetic superiority" anyway? A good immune system? Aerobic strength? Intelligence? No family history of mental illness? This narrative is meaningless. Even if it weren't--fascism? Really? That's some Step 1: Collect underpants ... Step 3: Profit! bridge building there, my friend.

therapythrowaway1205 · 2021-02-27T17:14:17+00:00

Out of curiosity do you know what real facism is, not this BS strawman 'everything slightly right is facism'? Because if so I can gaurentee you that you personally would not benefit from that system, as would the far left not actually benefit from the socialism they think they want.

Additionally, have you looked into narcassism as a personality disorder as it seems the women you are attracting would fall right into that category. Further more you must also accept the premise that all dating (even for men) is a shallow endeavour. Men, if given the option of lining up women and told they can only pick one will also go for the genetically superior, possibly even the ones that have money as well. This premise of 'whoa is me there's a vetting process for dating' is hilarious. Everything regarding people is what you can do for them/give them when you first meet them. Very few people will add someone to their life if they can do dick squat for them. Be it they want entertainment, similar goals, whatever, people still choose the people they want in their life. You choose the people you want in your life. That is not innately a horrible thing. Imagine if you had to allow every single person who crossed your path into your life, even the abusive ones, even the ones you don't like. You wouldn't be very happy I promise. Would you want to date a woman who just rolled up out of bed, looking nasty, hasn't showered, brushed her teeth didn't put time into her appearance? My guess is no. Wearing a thousand dollar watch is a crutch, just like make up. I would be curious to know how much confidence that gave you hiding behind a fake fascade when dating. There's a safety in hiding behind an image and I'd be willing to bet you were extremely confident/relaxed knowing that if she rejected you she would not be rejecting the 'real' you but a random persona you put on. Showing your true self is being vulnerable and uncomfortable. People want to be around people who are confident, relaxed and enjoyable to be around and most women are more emotionally attuned when it comes to how you present pyschologically. My guess is if you wore a fake 1k watch and pretended it was real you'd get the same level of success, or the same level of success with any persona for this reason.

The thing about the red pill is it's picking up on the phenomenon of narcassisitc women, only it's going the extra step of assuming all women are narcassisitc. That isn't the case. It just so happens that narcassisitc women know what a guy likes and knows how to present that in the best light in order to get as many men to go after them to feed their inner emptiness just like how red pillers are feeding their own emptiness. These women also tend to be gold diggers and power hungry as well. So more then likely the pool of examples you're (and red pillers) are observing are these really emotionally awful women because lets face it, narcassisitc women do know how to work it. When I compare the narcissistic women in my life to the actually emotionally healthy ones, those narcassisitc women are rolling in dick. They have everyone in the world knocking down their door begging to bang them. The ones who weren't like that? They'd get approaches sure, but they didn't keep the men around that they didn't actually see a future with. They cut the rest of them loose. They didn't have this random group of men floating around them, they didn't cheat, they saw their partners as men and people with goals and dreams and aspirations. The narcassitic women won't do that, they'll behave as you explained. It's a me me me me me type person, and it just so happens those people are very elluring in the beginning unless you know the red flags.

My final thought. No one here can tell you what you want to hear regarding red pill. They accept you now because you are singing their tune. Try and raise a thought contrary to what they believe, it won't end well. So long as you have one foot in the ideology you won't break free. Maybe you don't actually want to break free since you're wanting everyone here to do the intellectual leg work for you. In short it comes across as you being lazy, sitting back and saying to the world 'present me with your best evidence' it's not our job to break down your beliefs and tell you why they're wrong. You need to do that leg work yourself. That is the only way you'll be able to see the world as a whole picture. If you rely on everyone else to give you information you are not getting the best information, you're getting filtered, bite sized nuggets vs taking your learning into your own hands and doing the leg work required to make sure you have the best picture of reality. For that reason alone I know no one here will tell you what you think you need to hear. Do the leg work. Look at the studies, the sciences look at the whole picture and don't lean on a group or an individual to tell you how you're supposed to think. Unless you're too scared to have that power that comes with thinking and researching for yourself, most people are scared of that because at the end of the day you never have a group to align with because every group has half truths to fit their own narrative. No one likes the centrist.

Be well.

cuicksilver · 2021-02-27T10:03:46+00:00

First, I really honor that you’re asking hard questions. Wrestling with these impulses is important to get a variety of viewpoints on so you can make the healthiest choice.

These movements like TRP or alt-right steal grains of truth but primarily operate on emotions not reason—usually internalized rage, fear, loss and abandonment. Their content is all conclusion shopping; cherry-picking real events while discarding anything that doesn’t support their worldview. It’s tunnel vision, not a secret truth.

The solution is replacement. Look at the emotional appeal—what is missing from your needs being met that is under your control, and what are healthy ways of working to address that hole(s)? Easier said than done—yes. But there lies your treasure map.

I’m currently reading an insightful book on CPTSD by Pete Walker that, on top of all my work in therapy, is shining a light on why I feel the way I do.

Fascists and TRP and any supremacist-minded group (us vs them) don’t actually allow free thought in practice, they only allow a certain type of commentary. They say one thing—that they oppose censorship and cancel culture, but their actions and rhetoric says that a whole host of liberal and feminist ideas and persons should be cancelled and they will use abusive tactics in response.

They rationalize that because you’ve been harmed, harming others is fair game. But an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

They lie to get you worked up. They nurture your worst instincts because anger feels like power, and when you feel powerless, this seems like a solution. They praise you for coming to them, then require you to fall in line. You will only be good to them as long as you act like one of them.

One thing I personally get a lot out of is listening to ex-member stories of different groups. Like YT videos of former KKK, or cults. I started listening to a podcast called Indoctrination. It’s helpful for me to see why joining these groups feels comforting, but the hidden costs that come as a result (like losing friends who don’t feel safe anymore for one), and why they work twice as hard to leave something that used to make sense.

Xemnas81 · 2021-02-27T21:16:58+00:00

I can also almost guarantee that your friends are distancing from you because they don't see the importance of TRP (ultimately an Internet website) in the same way you do right now. You're exhibiting symptoms of cult brainwashing and the dangerous zeal which goes with it.

But I've personally been down this road not too many years ago, I could make posts on it...I guess my question for you is, if Fascism was a goal of feminism then why do they have a discourse on something called 'ableism'? There are a lot of ideas which are suppressed in fascist societies, the idea that the Other is marginalised is one of them. It's a decidedly antifascist idea.

Inareskai · 2021-02-27T12:51:44+00:00

Censorship and the removal of freedom of speech is really a concept that only applies to governments - your friends not talking to you because you start sharing dangerous and incorrect ideas isn't censorship. If someone says 'I love kicking puppies' and other people stop being friends with them based on that, it's not censorship. If you feel invited in a group of people who do like kicking puppies, sure you feel like you belong but that's a pretty big cost to your own morality.

You haven't really explained what exactly your beliefs are that align with facism other than 'women date in a certain way' which isn't really a facist idea (and it's incorrect anyway - women very much don't date the wealthiest man and what is 'genetic' superiority? Seriously, what is it you term 'genetic superiority', what does that look like?). Could you be clearer about your actual beliefs that draw you to facism?

cunningcaring · 2021-02-27T11:36:21+00:00

"Mass censorship". vs. "Mass misinformation".

Half-Ice-Half-Fire · 2021-02-27T21:50:04+00:00

Dude people (men and women) call out people with gold digging. What does gold digging even have to do with racism?

humblprayer · 2021-02-27T09:10:31+00:00

"The right community is so much more inviting. They allow you to speak. I'm lost."

Lol. Them evil fascists encouraging you to speak and shit.

You are not lost mate, you're just unplugging.

Stick with the folk who don't censor open discussions.

bellahadidlover · 2021-03-02T06:02:24+00:00

so you’re looking into fascism because of the women you’ve talked to ? you do realize this is beyond gender right ?

Title	I think I'm turning into a fascist please help
Author	AffectionatePilot521
Upvotes	8
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Date	February 27, 2021 6:23 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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