Wake up moment

GoWest7 · 2021-11-08T07:39:37+00:00

When I met someone that had gone through a terrible divorce and spent every year after that getting more and more radicalized because of TRP - instead of seeking alternatives, like therapy, and getting real help. Scary person now.

TRP creates sociopaths, predators, and walking shells of human beings. It's not a good solution for men or women.

yungvibegod2 · 2021-11-08T23:07:42+00:00

The whole “AWALT” thing when i knew plenty of women in my personal life who were not the way redpill generaliEs women to br

Trill_Hicks333 · 2021-11-08T23:19:39+00:00

At attempt at a nuanced answer here:

I(36M) never fully bought into TRP because I'd already had a PUAtips/Robert Greene phase in my teens that came to a grinding hault about 8 years ago..by the time "the red pill" starting being called "the manosphere" (among other things) I'd already learned "dating advice" and "masculinity/femininity policing" wasn't going to solve an issue of the heart moreso than the body/mind. In other words, bettering myself was the only true way and answer for me (..still working on that part)

I also say this to say by the time TRP coming along, I empathized with men talking about/around the things I'd experienced going from my teens to throughout my twenties. And I could understand how younger men (especially virgins) could benefit from some of the hard truths about idealization and purpose being espoused.

If you've ever read the game by Neil Strauss he ends the book in a kind of "newly awakened" state where he realizes everything he learned (while necessary to build his confidence) had the effect of distorting his viewpoint on humanity and inspiring clones of that same distortion no less.

I think some of that is happening today on social media/YouTube etc, but I'd also argue it was all inevitable and maybe even necessary.

I'm not so certain (personally) that TRP itself is toxic but the potential for toxic attitudes is present wherever men discuss the TRUE frustrations that men (and perhaps, men alone) experience. The language used at any given moment by any given figurehead has the potential to radicalize a young man with legitimate concerns and lack of guidance, but that's a fatherhood problem moreso than a TRP thing.

TRP is fertile ground for a mind/heart that's already toxic IF it's treated like an ideology or a religion (which I'm afraid too many do) by men attempting to fill father or mother wounds.

TLDR: At the end of my twenties I realized self work was the root of what draws me to red pill content. And if I don't do the necessary self work, I will live in a toxic world of my own creation and drag unsuspecting women with me.

RedPillDetox · 2021-11-08T09:57:14+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/nx70nv/for_the_men_in_this_group_what_was_the_turning/

https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/l1l3h0/what_made_you_become_red_pill_and_why_did_you/

https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/o39l9s/why_i_left_the_red_pill/

https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/6wl0ju/when_did_you_realize_you_wanted_out_of_redpill/

bee_ghoul · 2021-11-08T22:20:54+00:00

FYI this question is asked all the time here. That’s okay though. It’s a common conversation here and an important one. I’m a woman so I was never red pilled I just hang around for moral support. But if you take a look through the sub you’ll find loads of posts asking the same question and you can take a look over the answers. Also there’s a lot of supportive women here so if you have any questions for us do reach out.

spankyourkopita · 2021-11-09T03:37:55+00:00

When RP kept telling me that women will leave you and always look for better. Please I don't have to worry that much about that lol.

vcreativ · 2021-11-09T16:54:03+00:00

To any critical thinker the recurring nature of "here is an example of an instance now let me use this as proof for my general point" ought to get very tiresome, very quickly.

It's a good rule to learn. An instance is an instance, not a pattern. And if the population is big enough you will find plenty of horrific examples within any subgroup you can think of.

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Title	Wake up moment
Author	The-Guy-In-Grey
Upvotes	8
Comments	24
Date	November 8, 2021 7:29 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/ExRedPill
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