What is truly the black 💊?

AGuyWithoutAName_ · 2025-06-16T13:17:06+00:00

The black 💊 says that:

Looks matter and they are everything.
Women don't care about the character or personality of a man unless he passes her looks test.
Attractive men can get away with almost anything they do or say whilst unattractive men can't.
Only very attractive men get successful on dating apps.
Women only approach very attractive men and sometimes they even lead things.
Etc...

Acrobatic-Bit8376 · 2025-06-19T10:55:32+00:00

The black pill is often the next step for many, after the red pill fails to help them. Despite their efforts, they couldn't find success in dating, following the lead of the red pill - going to the gym, improving finances, etc. Since improving the factors in their life they had control over, didn't change anything, they jump to the conclusion that it's factors outside of their control that are the issue - height, facial structure/looks, overall genetics, etc. And let me tell you - the black pill is a very dark place. I was curious once to check the comment section of a prominent black pill youtuber and almost lost my mind. I can only imagine what happens to you once you are exposed to such content daily. Much like the red pill, the black pill goes further than dating. At its core, it is the belief that despite one's greatest efforts, the peak of the mountain remains unreachable because the game was rigged from the start. I highly recommend not adopting the black pill belief fully, as it's a trench that's very difficult to get out of.

ooa3603 · 2025-06-16T13:22:40+00:00

It's worse than that. The blackpill is nihilism AND complete pessimism applied to dating and romance.

It assumes that the most negative outcome in anything you do when it comes to dating is guaranteed.

Basically, they intentionally focus all of the factors that may be working against you in dating (biology, environment, etc) and completely disregard an factors that could help you (self-improvement, your personality strengths, ability to improve your filter for women, ability to change your environment etc).

A good example is physical attractiveness. Yes, genetics plays a large part in how you look. That's out of your control. But what you do with what you have is also in your control. You still have the ability to control your weight. You can still research on hairstyles that flatter your head shape. There are a lot of things you can do intrinsically improve your attractiveness that have nothing to do with genetics. You might not have a conventionally attractive face, but I can guarantee you that most of the population would be more than willing to overlook an average or lower face for a body that is well maintained.

A normal person with at least a mildly positive outlook would focus on all or most of the things they can control and do them. A redpilled person would see that they have some agency and attempt to do some but blame women/other things for ALL of their problems, a black pilled person would refuse to acknowledge any of their agency. It's levels of agency acknowledgement and blaming other people.

In fact, if I had to summarize the blackpill, it is the complete refusal to acknowledge any personal agency and responsibility in favor of despair and apathy. Yes, people are often dealt a bad hand, and absolutely they have been let down by their environment and society. But the great thing about life is that there are so many possibilities and ways to get what you want if you're willing to get creative, change your environment, ask for help and when you fail be able to get back up and change your strategy.

But they don't even try at all, because they don't want to.

Also, for the saying "do not worry about girls," it's not about never wanting to be in a relationship or wanting sex. It's don't make that the center of why you live your life. Sex, dating, romance and relationships are just one part of living. When you make them the central focus: It says to potential partners "I have no other ways to make myself happy and I am going to put all of the pressure of making me happy and emotionally stable on you."

Does that sound like something any person who is already happy and emotionally fulfilled wants to sign up for? Attractive people (both inside and out) do not want to be the only or major source of your happiness. And when you refuse to take ownership of what is in your control that is the message you are sending out to other people:

I'm going to make you do the work that I should already be doing for myself.

watsonyrmind · 2025-06-16T14:37:03+00:00

Your characterizations of the black pill is not accurate imo but that's the crux of the issue. There's no standard definition, people define it as they see fit and as it suits them. And then grifters take advantage of the nebulous nature of that to plant ideas in the cracks of understanding and drag people deeper and deeper into a self-serving belief system.

Also, in order to be fully knowledgeable on the ins and outs of pill rhetoric, one must spend considerable time and effort searching specific spaces for information and consuming content. For those doing this because it resonates with them, the act of digging into the content is what centres in their lives and makes it problematic. You'd be hard pressed to find people living otherwise normal, social, contented lives but who also spend time consuming toxic content and adopting its beliefs.

The mix of time investment, pre-existing factors that made them resonate with the content in the first place (social isolation, mental health problems etc.), social media algorithms, and grifters seeking to profit off lonely men make it a dangerous cocktail.

G0dZylla · 2025-06-16T14:18:08+00:00

asking what's the blackpill to a subreddit where people are anti-blackipill will give you biased results, from the comments i'm seeing they already throwing negative connotations just because they misinterpreted it

At it's core the blackpill is just a statement made on reality and it goes like "among all the factors that influence human relationships, physical attractiveness is the most important one" that's it, everything else is interpretation, inference and how people view it. most people's reaction to this, is giving up and becoming bitter about it and lashing out at women. when normal people(the ones replying in this thread) read the comments of incels that are depressed because of this truth they associate the reaction of the incel to the ideology, so if the incel says "i give up women only want 10/10 guys , they only care about looks , if you are average you need to give up" they think the blackpill corresponds to that, while ignoring that it could be interpreted in another way " if looks are the most important factor i will focus on improving it and then focus on the other factors" it does not in any way exclude other factors like confidence and personality.

the example that i think makes this absolutely clear is nihilism, it is neither a positive or a bad phylosphical view, but most people who are nihilist are depressed because they don't like that there is no meaning in life, but other people feel extremely liberated by this, so it's obvious that the common interprtation of an ideology shouldn't be correlated with it.

iAmAFreeMan101 · 2025-07-02T07:34:33+00:00

Well, watch wheat waffles videos or something like that. But I'll tell you this, it's a lie. All pills are a lie. They're all propaganda trying to sell you something and exploit your loneliness.

Dear-Tank2728 · 2025-06-17T20:57:06+00:00

Other answers have covered your questions but i will say i get where you are coming from. Alot of people call anything critical of womens part in dating Blackpilled or incel stuff when it just isnt. Mgtow, volcel groups also exist as well as positive ideologies that are about not dating.

Fritz_Frauenraub · 2025-06-20T23:16:04+00:00

"The black pill" is the mood or worldview promulgated by young men who have been formed by the following circumstances: 1. Grew up under dating apps and can't imagine another way to meet a woman 2. Views of sexuality & female attractiveness and the necessity of having an impressive mate created by constant heavy ingestion of internet content, social media, pornography and streaming "movies and shows". 3. Entire life spent in front of a screened device or soullessly pursuing hobbies recommended by said device. Soul flabby and enervated from hundreds of thousands of hours of internet existence.

Title	What is truly the black 💊?
Author	dumpyfrog
Upvotes	14
Comments	16
Date	June 16, 2025 12:58 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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