I recently stumbled across a rather interesting post on the bropill subreddit regarding dating for men in today’s world

funnystor · 2020-01-14T05:31:52+00:00

trollx, pretty cool subreddit, has revealed to me how shitty most men are

Yeah that's called sexism, trollx is an extremely sexist echo chamber, and their posters overlap a lot with r/pinkpillfeminism.

Imagine the reaction if someone posted there "mgtow, pretty cool subreddit, has revealed to me how shitty most women are".

SMH.

GaborFrame · 2020-01-14T11:57:19+00:00

Let's summarize it like this: Those men who are already regarded as attractive and desirable do not really need dating advice. If you are not one of them but still seek love, then you are "trying too hard", which easily makes you appear creepy.

BannanasAreEvil · 2020-01-14T14:40:34+00:00

Ah yes, dating in this new world!

The post was pretty sad actually, while I liked the idea the guy was interested in trying to get a feel for what many women go through to up his chances of success. The only thing it really did is lower his self esteem, cast him in a negative light and enforce sexist standards wrapped up in guilt and shame.

What really gets me, is all those issues brought up about trying to find someone who shares your hobbies, or through friends or whatnot. It's the guy who must approach in all of those scenarios. I don't think many women fully understand that what they hate the most about men approaching them is due to the fact that men HAVE to approach them.

Lets say a woman is walking down the street and sees a guy she thinks is cute. She will walk by, she wont approach him and ask him out, therefore although she was interested its socially not her place to ask him out.

So now some guy she might not find so attractive approaches her on the street and asks her out. This, is unacceptable and makes her automatically defensive. Why did he bother her? Why did he think he had the right to take up her time? Why does he feel entitled to that time and energy when she's just trying to get where she is going?

Make no mistake, the reason she didn't approach the guy she thought was attractive was not for the reasons she is upset that a man approached her. She didn't approach him for 2 reasons, the first is fear of rejection (obvious one). The second is because for her she is not supposed to approach men, they are supposed to pursue her.

The cards are stacked against men in the dating world for many reasons. This however is the one that leads to so many issues in our society though. Women are complaining about men who hit on them at the wrong time. Or men who feel they are freindzoned or men who are too aggressive when approaching them. Yet the reason those things happen is because men are expected to pursue women, it's expected of them to show they are interested in a woman.

So women have 2 double edged swords they must contend with. The first is they want men to pursue them, but at the cost of all that drama that can bring when done. The second one is that they complain about all the drama and want men to stop doing that stuff but then men will stop pursuing them.

Whats easier, teaching men all the nuance in the world so they can formulate the exact moment to ask a woman out? Or women taking more chances and asking men out more and making the first move? I just have to say, knowing what woman is interested in you or "wants" to be approached by you is extremely difficult. Yet them putting themselves out their and risking rejection is a lot easier.

The pay gap? What about the rejection gap?

mtcapri · 2020-01-14T05:35:36+00:00

Why isn't there some male dating strategy sub that lies in some reasonable ground between TRP and this BP chivalry/m'lady bullshit?

Title	I recently stumbled across a rather interesting post on the bropill subreddit regarding dating for men in today’s world
Author	Iaboveall
Upvotes	7
Comments	28
Date	January 14, 2020 4:51 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
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