Short question: Are there sources that demonstrate men commit more serious suicide attempts that would result in hospitalization?

goldenjuniper · 2020-10-09T03:23:13+00:00

Women attempt suicide as a cry for help.

Men commit suicide because they know there is no help for them.

All of the bullshit by feminists about "men are too proud to go to therapy" is just flat out wrong. Poor men who do want to go to therapy can not find resources to help.

Just look at how abysmal VA therapy is. It's not like homeless men with PTSD are just living in hell but are too proud to get therapy. Therapy is just not available to them.

Oncefa2 · 2020-10-09T04:36:52+00:00

If you attempt and fail you can attempt again. Two attempts does not equal two separate people. It could be the same person trying twice.
Many stats conflate self-harm with suicide to the point that we really don't know how many failed attempts there are. We really only have good numbers for successful attempts.
The method of choice itself implies how much the person wanted to succeed. Women are more likely to make attempts that are public, meaning they're more likely to be "saved", in part because that's actually what they want. Generally speaking, less successful methods are employed by people who want to fail on purpose. Meaning many are not truly suicidal. This can still indicate severe psychological distress though; it's not the case that they're necessarily doing it for fun. But I do think it implies something very different than what we normally think of when we say that someone is suicidal.

2020-10-09T05:32:16+00:00

https://old.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/giroe1/women_attempt_suicide_more_is_misleading/

ArsikVek · 2020-10-10T01:28:04+00:00

The short answer is, there are serious flaws in data collection methodologies. In addition to what everyone else lists here, the means chosen for suicides have a strong impact in follow-on reporting. Person 1 takes a bunch of pills (that probably aren't lethal anyway), has second thoughts, calls an ambulance, gets recorded. Person 2 spends the weekend in the tub with a gun to their head, but backs out and goes to work monday. Nothing is recorded.

romulusnr · 2020-10-10T18:15:35+00:00

Survivorship bias. We tend to focus on those who make it past some sort of selection event, while ignoring those who do not. Women use less lethal methods, and so are mor likely to re-attempt.

Detective-Efficient · 2020-10-12T06:23:53+00:00

Absolutely - peer reviewed and still fresh - here you go: https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12888-017-1398-8

Results: Suicide intent data from 5212 participants was included in the analysis. A significant association between suicide intent and gender was found, where ‘Serious Suicide Attempts’ (SSA) were rated significantly more frequently in males than females (p < .001). There was a statistically significant gender difference in intent and age groups (p < .001) and between countries (p < .001). Furthermore, within the most utilised method, intentional drug overdose, ‘Serious Suicide Attempt’ (SSA) was rated significantly more often for males than females (p < .005).

Title	Short question: Are there sources that demonstrate men commit more serious suicide attempts that would result in hospitalization?
Author	Strikester101
Upvotes	11
Comments	8
Date	October 9, 2020 3:09 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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