Edit: Okay, I am the asshole. I accept that.
However, I have seen no convincing arguments about why Josh doesn't deserve to know before getting married, and everyone here has just disregarded his feelings out of hatred for my actions (fair enough).
Given that, I don't regret my actions, and will do it again if she doesn't tell her future partners before getting married. I am an asshole, but a necessary asshole.
My sister (30) is engaged to a guy (33), let's call him Josh. Josh is a very well established guy, very nice to my sister and our family, does a lot for us.
Josh and my sister announced their engagement a couple of months ago at a family dinner. Obviously everyone celebrates at the news and has a great night.... Except for me.
I took my sister aside later in the night and asked her if she had told him about her "past". My sister went through an extremely "sex positive" phase in college and slept with easily over 100 guys (we're twins btw, so always been close). She said it didn't matter, it was the past, etc. Fair enough, it shouldn't matter, but I think Josh deserves to know this before he marries my sister. Not every man is comfortable with marrying someone with such an extensive list of past sexual partners.
So anyway I tell her if she doesn't tell him, I will. I give her a month. She doesn't tell him. Meanwhile they're going full steam ahead planning the wedding. I give her one last chance, a few more weeks to come clean, she doesn't.
So I told Josh all I knew about her sexual past. He thanks me, but doesn't take the news well. Apparantly my sister has been presenting herself as a sexually-shy kind of girl. (edit: she lied and said he was her third sexual partner). Completely blindsided him.
He's put the wedding on hold and hasn't spoken to my sister for several days. Says he needs time alone to think.
As you can imagine, everyone in my family is blaming me for ruining my sister's wedding (I guess I kind of did). Josh's family is kind of neutral, though they're obviously offering Josh emotional support and thanking me for my honesty.
AITA?
[–]SekaiNoHeipo225 points226 points227 points (12 children) | Copy Link
That sub is cucked as fuck, damn. Good on OP for taking a stand
[–]jstrockmeyer75 points76 points77 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The hero we deserve, captain "come clean or I will".
[–]dayone_2747 points48 points49 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Yup, the utter state of those blue pilled idiots who see no problem in a 100+ cock count
[–]Drekalo17 points18 points19 points (0 children) | Copy Link
They're soooooo against slut shaming. My God, not slut shaming is what's ruined our society...
There's a reason why a stud is positive and a slut is negative. To be a stud you have to be genetically gifted, charismatic, wealthy and have strong game. To be a slut you just have to be there. There's such thing as an ugly fat slut. No such thing as an ugly fat stud.
[–]cottonstokes-1 points0 points1 point (2 children) | Copy Link
What's the issue? I've seen Virgins cheat and ex sluts get it out of their system
[–]dayone_272 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Virgins aren’t perfect but at least you will get some joy out of them for a while, they are also least likely to divorce rape (exceptions noted). A slut (no such thing as ex slut) will be alpha widowed, withhold sex (from husband) and pretty much guaranteed to divorce rape
[–]cottonstokes1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Just be a bigger alpha
[–]shkreli4prez202017 points18 points19 points (0 children) | Copy Link
What baffles me is just the sheer number of idiots there... sobering reminder that we're an island of reason surrounded by an ocean of feminists and cucks.
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points (0 children) | Copy Link
i love seeing the logic they try to spin. oh, people change, how could it possibly matter she fucked triple digit guys IF SHE CHANGED.
hahahah, yeah, we all know women don't change. they just change their fuck patterns because they hit the wall and because they need the illusion of innocence to bag a beta bux. if they could fuck 100 guys a month still, they would! but it doesn't matter, how could someones past possibly effect who they are in the present. smh.
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[–]PorkBomber4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The whole society is cucked nowadays, that sub is just one tiny part of it.
[–]Bentyhunter2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Man bad! Me vote down >:(
[–][deleted] 154 points155 points156 points (21 children) | Copy Link
I read the whole thing. He's NTA, she is for lying to her husband and being supposedly 'shy'. She's a whore, that's it. Her husband is 100% right for stopping the wedding.
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Whore in sheep’s clothing.
Edit: Thanks for the gold kind stranger.
[–]Marque0183 points84 points85 points (2 children) | Copy Link
This is quite common. After their 15+ years of being in the "whore phase" for every Chad with a neck tatoo they all move on to the "prude phase" for their Beta. It's an act, just like the 'love' she shows her Beta.
She's still a whore, just not 'your' whore.
[–]SomeTurdInTheWind28 points29 points30 points (1 child) | Copy Link
If her Chad ex contacts her for a booty call she will totally go back to being a whore for that night
[–]007MGTOW2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
She will never pair bond with a guy after that many cocks. The wedding is a ritual murder of this man's integrity and faith in humanity. He should call off the wedding before she takes half his shit, and still fucks Chad anyway.
[–]CoyoteDanny16 points17 points18 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I dated one of those when I was young, naive and had no idea of the red pill: We'd sext all the time but whenever I'd be at her place she'd pull the "I'm shy" card then get angry at me for making advances
[–][deleted] 39 points40 points41 points (7 children) | Copy Link
It's a she, and the usual response there is "you're a sexist, mysoginistic pig who slut shames women" lol
[–]mnight7524 points25 points26 points (2 children) | Copy Link
The truth is not slut shaming. If she is ashamed of having 100 partners that's her issue not the worlds. If being a slut is such a good thing, why do they hide/lie about it?
Telling lies in the name of "not slut shaming" is a sham, and they know it.
[–]them1lfman12 points13 points14 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Wish I could upvote you a dozen times.
[–]007MGTOW3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I upvoted on behalf of your upvote.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points (3 children) | Copy Link
A very honest woman then. Maybe that's why she knew about her whores endeavour.
[–]scruffyshoulders1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Honest, sure, but it's a twin sister, so most likely done out of spite. After all, her twin was getting married before her, the good one who didn't sleep around in her youth. It's totally unfair in her mind, which is why she destroyed her sister's relationship. I sincerely doubt she did it out of kindness for the dude, that's just how her hamster has spun it.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You're probably right. There is no honor among women and you found her motive. I agree with you.
[–]Seroriman1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That one is actually married with 3 kids...
I mean you can still find a negative motive here, but I think what she did was really, really good. She saved that man. At that point I don't care all that much whether that OP did it for the right reasons...
[–]stoicbotanist21 points22 points23 points (2 children) | Copy Link
"you had no right to tell him"
That sub is shaming this guy for acting upon his values, which by the way, is quite admirable.
[–]Profitglutton10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
A man with standards is a woman’s worst nightmare.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It was a very honest decision.
[–]inasari10015 points16 points17 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Had a female coworker todat tell me that a females prime attraction years are late 20's and early 30's which is complete bs but she was clearly confusing that with wanting to settle down and also they projection of attraction to men.....once they have resources of course
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Maybe she actually thinks her career will get her a partner. Truth be told the better her career the lesser of a chance of finding a mate. Seen many 'career' women end up lonely.
[–]inasari1002 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree, hence why I said she was projecting what women find attractive in a man
[–]cottonstokes0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Career women are a bit better
[–]Drekalo1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol, move that back 4 years and I'm with her. 16 to 26.
[–]Omnibrad142 points143 points144 points (20 children) | Copy Link
This is one of the most upvoted posts. Every sentence is dripping with blue pill clichés. I like how it completely ignores the fact this woman lied to her fiancé and the entire relationship was built on a lie.
I also like how it shows a woman who fucked the football team, the basketball team, the baseball team, the hockey team, the soccer team, the track and field team, the rugby team, and the ultimate frisbee team will magically get shy during sex when she encounters a guy from the chess team. Lmao.
[–]DWShimoda29 points30 points31 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Hmmm...
football team = 11 guys
basketball team = 5 guys
baseball team = 9 guys
hockey team = 6 guys
soccer team = 11 guys
the track and field team = bit more difficult this... let's say 2 dozen (24).
rugby team = 13 (or 15, it depends)
ultimate frisbee team = generally 5, but possibly 7 if indoor.
Add all those up... (taking the highest count for each) and you actually STILL only end up with 88 guys...
IF, as the guy states his twin sister "slept with easily over 100 guys" then ALL of those teams added together is still about a dozen (or more) SHORT of her total count.
IOW, she's been quite the slutty whore.
[–]PrideTrooperBR10 points11 points12 points (1 child) | Copy Link
She is not a slut, it just a rookie numbers
and my co-workers wonder why i don't want to get married.
[–]Drekalo1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It's TRUE. I know chicks that sleep with a new guy every week. 52 weeks in a year, sometimes multiple guys, running on well over 7 years.
[–]chris9407 27 points28 points29 points (4 children) | Copy Link
You know that the comment section is going to be comedic gold when the post here starts with "Crossposted from X". People are so dense. I made the mistake of asking me ex how many people she had been with. She asked me fairly soon after we got together whereas I didn't ask her until a few months had gone by. It created a metric fuckton of insecurity with me. I almost wish I hadn't asked. Ever since my red pill revelation though, I will just assume every woman has a high body count. The only problem is that this realization didn't come until after I decided to just be a monk.
Even aside from all the Red Pill vs. Blue Pill conflicts that are discussed her, I feel the world is going to hell in a hand basket. Slowly but surely.
[–]007MGTOW2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That's because if you love a woman, you don't know women very well. And if you know women well, you can never love them. Knowing the truth about women's nature, and how they can lie with a smile and look you in the eyes, makes them dangerous to men who are easily tricked by women.
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At the time, she said 10 and she was super nervous about it. Shaking like she was scared. I'm sure it's more but I don't care anymore. It's not like I could've used my wishful thinking to "unfuck" those that were before me. She was 35 when I met her and I was naive to think that there could be a significant amount of "firsts" with me for anything.
[–]630am_now22 points23 points24 points (0 children) | Copy Link
> Why are you bringing up her college days? Almost every single person did something stupid in college.
She: Fucked the football team. Every other Sunday for 2 years.
He: jumped into the fountain outside the library once, shouting, "Fuck Shakespeare!!". 3 people LOL-ed for 2 seconds.
[–]Buchwild9 points10 points11 points (4 children) | Copy Link
I'd love to know the breakdown by percent of the genders on that sub, it's got a be all women
[–]Plastic_Resolution 2 points3 points4 points (3 children) | Copy Link
There are men too.
Reddit is like 90 percent porn addicts. These guys send money to camgirls.
[–]Buchwild2 points3 points4 points (2 children) | Copy Link
I've seen that. $5 ain't no big deal but I've seen those guys get into the hundreds and over a grand before
[–]Plastic_Resolution 3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I'd rather keep my 5 dollars.
[–]Buchwild1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
By all means keep your $5 and know that I wasn't saying to give cam girls money. I was talking about people who do other things, write songs or make educational videos, in that regard throwing a $5 in the tip bucket ain't no big deal
[–]stoicbotanist7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I saw this and couldn't read past the first line bc I was laughing so hard. Fiance showed no signs of change. If she "changed" she wouldn't confessed long ago and committed to her fiance
[–]Vercetti19868 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
People never change, they just become better at hiding it.
People only change when they get a hard reality slap to their faces, but most women don't get that
[–]RegiusGeralt2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This is clear support for hypergamy and thot mentality.
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i replied to that comment. i think i made a good point. which is that when i was young in University, i did tons of dumb and stupid shit i regret, but not 100 times! i can count my missteps on both hands and even though i made some huge errors and mistakes, the big fucks ups led to self reflection and evaluation and change. this girl has no self reflection. ego boosting fuck toy until she hit the wall and now is trying to grab her beta bux. of cousre we can judge her.
[–]Drekalo1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Statistically unlikely she doesn't have at least one STI, such as HPV, after 100 partners.
[–]ahugebundleofsticks 62 points63 points64 points (3 children) | Copy Link
he just saved this guys life so of course he's the asshole, men are worthless...
"you slut shamed her...." Nah nigga she slut shamed herself as if she was proud of being the town prosciutto she would have told him the truth or somewhere near the truth instead of saying you are only #3.
I love it when people play dumb and then Pikachu face it up...
[–]Buchwild20 points21 points22 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I love how the don't even bat an eye at a triple digit body count, that thread is so messed up. There was a recent one where the responses were in favor of a 12 year old buying sex toys or some shit, and we're the crazy one's smh
[–]ahugebundleofsticks 10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Up is right and left is down,
Welcome buchwild to the world of the clown.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
woh woh woh, don't bad mouth proscuitto like that. it's a fine meat!
[–]TheKnightRunner50 points51 points52 points (4 children) | Copy Link
For all the people on the sub saying "it's her past, it doesn't matter", why did she go out of her way to lie about it? Because she knew if he knew, he'd have a problem with it. This is a classic case of omission is betrayal.
Do people make mistakes? Yes. Do some people learn from them and become better? Yes. Does he have the right to not want a woman who was at one point a slut? Yes. It's not my or anyone else's place to judge what's important to this guy in a partner.
Also, from what I've seen, women who went through the slutty college phase tend to want to relive that at some point and are more likely to cheat in marriage.
[–]just_a_ghost_022 points23 points24 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah. Let Josh decide if her past matters to him.
[–]DWShimoda17 points18 points19 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Indeed... also the BEST predictor of ANY persons' future behavior... is their past behavior.
Ayup, regardless of what she claims, she is emphatically not done being a "slut" ... she will -- soon enough (assuming that is that she hasn't already been cheating on him "on the side") -- grow bored with just one (the same one) guy, and start going back to seeking other guys to sleep with.
Guaranteed.
[–]shkreli4prez20205 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"Your honor, sure I committed some murders here and there, but that's in the past! Can't you see the past doesn't matter now?"
[–]Profitglutton1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Also what incentive do sluts have to change their ways after having been so for so long? Society is telling them it’s okay and they can cheat and take half or more of the man’s asses. They literally have every insetive to be a slut before, during and after the marriage.
[–]Eclecto141 points42 points43 points (4 children) | Copy Link
“YTA” lmao. The bitch lied and told the guy he was her 3rd. This is why I just add 20 to whatever body count they throw at me.
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Exactly. It's best to assume than when a woman tells you her body count that you AT LEAST double it.
[–]PotatoMoosh8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Seems these days you multiply by 30.3333333 repeating at least.
[–]theoracleofosiris6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Multiply 20, not add
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
should multiply by 20 bro! your math is off.
[–]vindykay26 points27 points28 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Why do they do this I imagine that one of the good things about dating/marring a sexual veteran woman would be at the very least really good sex.
[–]chris9407 18 points19 points20 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, plus she'll just compare you with the hundred other samples she has to draw from. Why would the fiance from the story willingly put himself in that position? That's called setting oneself up for failure. If you had sex with 100 different women, do you think that the 101st is magically going to be better than all previous encounters? Sex probably isn't special to you anymore by that point(long before that actually) and each new person will just be a notch. Nothing special you can form with that person. I praised OP for giving his potential BIL a red pill for the ages. It will forever change him and the way he views women.
[–]shkreli4prez20202 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Nope, if anything there's an inverse relationship between body count and quality of sex.
[–]deepspace725 points26 points27 points (0 children) | Copy Link
A lot of those people are retarded and shouldn't give advice. They "think" with their emotions and when logic and reason are presented, they have no comeback or they dismiss it. It's also heavily gender biased to the female side. Most of them condone or look aside when women are dishonest, manipulative, or commits violence. It's a pos sub.
[–]Hellse22 points23 points24 points (0 children) | Copy Link
TIL it's OK to lie to someone's face, plow on ahead with a marriage, and everyone is just supposed to smile and nod and let the guy go to the slaughter.
Oh right, that's women's whole game. Can't have the slaves finding out about anything actually true.
[–]Thermotastic23 points24 points25 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Shes playing the shy sexual partner, but shes not. Shes probably had it every which way from Sunday. Shes a liar.
He's NTA. Shes a bitch.
[–]Marque018 points9 points10 points (1 child) | Copy Link
He probably hasn't even gotten a good blowjob yet. It'll be better after the marriage dear. I just need to feel comfortable...
[–]Thermotastic10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I have noticed a trend with women. They will put out until they know they have you hooked. Then often times take it away unless they are feeling horny...
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and she's shy about giving blowjobs, she really wants to but it grosses her out and its weird. so maybe next weekend i'll try honey. and she's too tired for sex tonight because she's just not that sexual of a person.
10 years earlier. taking 15 guys in every hole. typical post wall ex CC rider.
[–]Thermotastic1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Truth.
[–]MGTOWNeko21 points22 points23 points (2 children) | Copy Link
I love how all these people spout "iTs In ThEir PaSt PeOpLe MaKe MiStaKeS" but the second they would encounter a felon, regardless of what they were actually charged with or when, they would avoid them like the plague.
[–]AnneFrankensteiner19 points20 points21 points (0 children) | Copy Link
They're also the same people, who would demand that a man's career is ended, on a 30 year old accusation of sexual harassment and give you absolutely 0 avenues of redemption.
[–]Profitglutton4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Or better yet if the man was accused of a false rape accusation which was later proven false. The stigma would be unbelievable. “But you were accused” as if that actually means anything but heaven forbid you tell them that.
[–]Porkincarnate16 points17 points18 points (2 children) | Copy Link
While OP may have saved the guy, I have no doubt that her intent was malicious. She does not want her sister to be happy. Even if her sister does not have a high body count, she will find some other way to ruin her life.
Women are vicious like that, I have seen it firsthand. My mom's twin sister constantly sabotages her relationship with our relatives because she is jealous that me and my sister are more successful in life than her sons. Stay woke brothers.
[–]RunawayGrain9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Pretty much this. My crazy ex's sister threw the spanner into their relationship gears with her knowledge of our sexual encounters, and some family photo's she'd stashed.
[–]Profitglutton2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s strange that you say that. This whole time I assumed that the OP was a man because I simply couldn’t imagine that a girl would have such integrity to keep a man from needlessly suffering.
[–]hrm08949 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The only reason why women get away with this shit is because most men have no clue how many partners these nasty whores sleep with. If men woke up, they'd know real quick that equality is a lie.
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Assume they ALL have a body count that rivals Rambo. . . My high school girlfriend was a ho bag when I met her. I “dated” her because. . . I wanted to bang a nasty slut. It was good experience, but I digress.
She had an N count of probably 20 when I greaduated high school. She graduated two years later.
Then she went to college and got a clean slate. She no doubt banged half the city she was in. She would come back home to visit. . . Still very much riding the CC.
Then she goes to ANOTHER city for a teaching masters. Clean slate, yet again. . . Body count rises.
Now, she moved “back home” and is playing “prude school teacher”. . . Shocker!
Its too easy for them to move around and get so much random “untraceable” dick that you will NEVER know a girls true N count.
I have friends back home that I catch up with on Holidays. One, in particular, keeps up on every motherfucker from high school. . . Oh, yeah. He fucked her too, lol.
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it's why i basically am out of the dating pool now and even at age 37, i will clearly tell anyone i only date women age 18-21. is she a slut at age 21. fuck yes she is, but she simply hasn't lived enough days in her sexual life to have a high enough body count to bother me. a 19 year old that has fucked 30 guys is still a good fuck. but a 26 year old whose fucked 80 guys. or 800 guys. the #'s get ridiculous once you get past age 20-21.
any guy that fucked the school slut like you did (I did the same) will realize how aggressive and slutty women's sexual nature is from the age of 15-16. fuck, i love my virginity at age 14 and it was NOT my idea, it was her idea, the town slut. Luckily at age 14 she had just given one Bj and got fingered a few times before we both lost our virginity together. i bet by age 17 she was on #30 already.
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Exactly! Imagine how much easier it is for them to rack up bodies in the tinder era. . . That and the fact that they will bang dudes within minutes of meeting them. When they are young and slutty, they will bang anytime, any place.
By their mid twenties they are in free fall looks and pair bonding wise. Not even worth the time.
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women don't realize their power is in being able to present a young and low body count vagina in exchange for marriage basically.
we've lived in a nice little blue pill Disney era, and for the past 40+ years we've bought into this fantasy that women can be empowered and still deserve us. but as they've taken more and more power, year by year, men simply realize its a bad deal.
funny thing is looking back, it was always a bad deal. ALWAYS. but the pussy worship PC and blue pilled culture has reached such an extent that we are promoting women who are admitted sluts.
it'll be interesting as the science of "love" gets even more developed. pair bonding is a very interesting chemical reaction in nature. it's very real and I still think under the proper circumstances, whether forever or for a 5-7 year period, men and women can pair bond correctly. but we'll never return to those days. technology has hacked the female whore gene to such an extent that we're quickly going to the time where there will only be 3 women; sex bots, whores, and post wall cat ladies.
[–]takeiteasy34300 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
What body count at age 21 is acceptable to you? Curious about your perspective. Came across this post late
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doesn't really matter to me. i've fucked 20 year old whores. with protection of course, but it didn't really gross me out, because even if she fucked 800 guys, they probably just fucked once. her pussy simply hasn't seen the mileage. i know girls age 25 who only dated maybe 8 guys but never were single and were getting deep dicked every day for years. ANY girl pussy has seen major wear by the time they are 21. i really prefer 18-20. by age 21 we're getting into 4-5 years of them being a total whore, which simple math will show you makes their pussy disgusting.
[–]takeiteasy34300 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for the reply. I asking for advice for myself, being in my 20s. What’s an acceptable notch count for a 21 year old girl? 5 or less?
[–]KawiNinjaZX9 points10 points11 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Men in real life don't want to marry a women who has slept around with a hundred men. Maybe the guys on reddit who worship every woman they see don't care but I don't know anyone who wants to marry a woman like that.
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i live in Asia and used to have a pretty deep sex addiction. well whore addiction. never fucked them but did all the other stuff. titfucks and blowjobs mostly. anyways i digress. in my town there is one very good whore house and i became a very good customer there for a period of 2-3 years. well some of those girls i would meet dozens of times if not more. well you meet any human that many times and you just get familiar with each other. I had a few whores i was so familiar with sometimes we'd get coffee or meet for a movie. wasn't romantic at all, just got along well and having some form of human civility meant the other 95% of the time when my dick was in her mouth, things were cordial.
well i really got to learn a lot about the whore life. women's nature. etc. whores are an interesting case study because once you get to know them very well, you realize most whores are not drug addicts and fucked up abused women, they are NORMAL women, just honest women who will admit women's only real motivation is feeling good and resources.
anyways, hanging out sometimes with the random whores, or often as it was, invited to the club for their birthday, i began to meet many of the boyfriends and husbands of said women. you'd be shocked at the # of thirsty loser men that would gladly marry a whore. i knew men that married a whore, gave her a baby and then when money ran out the whore went back to work and the husband would just sit at home and allow it. in fact that one husband i'm thinking of would pay for a fancy birthday dinner for his wife and her whore friends, and even knew i was one of his wife's clients and welcomed me like a dear friend.
people are fucking weird. me dropping $10 and an hour to see a whore who takes amazing care of my dick is nothing, but actually wedding and marrying and supporting them. TONS of men ready to step up! and as most whores will tell you, about 50% of men want sex and to cum, the other 50% are simps and blue pilled men who just want a pretty girl to tell them they love them.
[–]ShiroeTatsune8 points9 points10 points (1 child) | Copy Link
The comments have a few sound people but everyone else is more blue pilled
[–]Yggdrasill44 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Clown pilled
Place is a joke
[–]crispinosk87 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol guys she said he was the third, but in fact is the over 100+? Wth, I'm so happy to be celibate.
[–]chris9407 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I praised him and lambasted a few in the YTA crowd. I can't believe some people are totally ok with it. I get it's probably not the most fun conversation to have but this is someone you're going to spend the rest of your life with. Wouldn't you want to know?
[–]Buchwild6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That's fucking disgusting, she had sex with over 100 guys? The fuck is wrong with some people. No self control whatsoever!
[–]febreezing_hobos8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck that. The fiance deserved to know. Some people ARE NOT OKAY with that kind of stuff. If he isn't and she is, it indicated drastically different views towards sex and WILL end in disaster. Good on that guy for telling him.
[–]Suited_Vulture5 points6 points7 points (4 children) | Copy Link
There are few things I respect more than a man standing alone for what is right. Huge respect.
[–]H82Breakit2u7 points8 points9 points (3 children) | Copy Link
OP is a woman
An even rarer show of conviction
They're few and far between but a woman with integrity, damn, it's still an impressive sight to see
[–]basedmillennial954 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Top 10 anime plot twists
[–]Suited_Vulture2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Very interesting. Given womens' natural preferences for collectivism and group-thinking, such a display of individual integrity is very surprising indeed. Huge respect none the less.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
wait, OP is also a woman, so she is a twin woman, and she didn't whore out. imagine having a twin and you have the mental clarity to not be a whore but your twin is. that would be weird seeing your exact genetic clone be something so different from what you are.
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"It's in the past so it doesn't matter. Now let me lie to my fiancé about it"
[–]Yggdrasill44 points5 points6 points (2 children) | Copy Link
I love that one comment
Sexual positivity is outwardly express until the time it becomes inconvenient and placed in the past kept hidden
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points (1 child) | Copy Link
every woman: "i'm not ashamed of my sexual history."
me: "so you tell your new boyfriend about your past?"
every woman: "i don't see any reason to talk about the past, he is my future."
[–]Yggdrasill41 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
They know deep down it is a shameful embarrassing thing to reveal.
[–]ZeroBlink6 points7 points8 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Sounds like (the op) she has hots for this guy.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
She's married though
[–]ZeroBlink6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Not a problem
[–]escalover3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
He’s TA, but Josh and his entire family are deeply grateful that her lies and misrepresentations were exposed?
Cucks gonna cuck.
[–]cycloneous3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I did stupid things in college, BUT, sleep around or stoop myself that low that I would regret it, I did not! Why? Because it is part of understanding actions that have consequences!
Clearly, this lady has no clue, and if her potential mate was told at the beginning her sexual nature, he would have balked at first glimpse. The potential groom needs to cut his losses because she is a divorce rape waiting to happen. He needs buy the brother a beer, thank him for his service and run as far away from this lady as possible!
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
that's what i said. have i fucked some regrettable people. of course. two in college i can think of. one was this fat Italian bitch i met on Myspace for one night stand. the other was this very insecure heroin addict. both were INSTANT regrets. just felt gross. i knew it was a mistake. as a result i have a few rules; I NEVER do one night stands ever. and I don't date anyone that uses heroin. two good rules to live by.
did i fuck up? yes, of course and then i adjusted my own internal morals to make my life better as a result of fucking dumb mistakes. i don't see that with a girl that fucked 100 people and then says its sex positive but then lies about it.
[–]justletmemakeanacc6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
All those subs getting more and more cucked. The amount of virtue signalling is insane.
[+][deleted] [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
OP is a woman, and everyone jumping to conclusions thinking it's a guy.
[–]H82Breakit2u6 points7 points8 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Because she displayed integrity and virtue
Deep down they all know
[–]scruffyshoulders1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Doubtful, I'd put my money on this being done out of spite and jealousy. They are twin sisters after all, and the slutty one won the marriage race. Can't have that, now can we.
[+][deleted] [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Perfect example of what women and cucks stand for: LIES. If they think it's perfectly fine to lie about their own past then what else do they feel comfortable lying regularly about? Maybe it's responsible to be skeptical of "rape" claims. <Cucks: (Reacts in horror) We believe all women!>
[–]novhaku2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Answer: pretty much everything. Nowadays you are seen as the one with a problem if you tell or want people to tell you the truth. They'll lie and rewrite history about the smallest things, so of course if they actually have something to gain...
[–]DWShimoda4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Indeed... the whole line "it doesn't matter"...
Well, if it REALLY doesn't/shouldn't/won't matter, then there is no reason for her fiance NOT to know about it.
Rolling back the odometer on a "used" car and selling it as if it is "new" is both blatant FRAUD, and a crime; don't see how LYING about partner-count is any different.
Also, wimminz are all about "her body her choice"... well same applies to men/marriage and THEIR wallets, paychecks, lifetime earnings, choice of who they do/don't want to be their "wife" and/or potential future "mother of their children" and etc.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
it's ok, just flip it on them.
I love you, IT DOESN'T MATTER if we get married or not, i will stay by your side forever.
why bring the government into things. if love is all that is important than marriage doesn't matter! great!
[–]johntheother4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You prevented a marriage from being executed under fraudulent terms. You are not the A-hole. Anybody who supports the deception of Josh is a scumbag.
[–]six-twosix3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Not all heroes wear capes
[–]1Badshot1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
"Dude, you know my sister is a cum-guzzling whore, right? No, she told you her body count is 3 and she made you wait three months to even touch her slit? Nah, dog, she's playing. You could hit that for the price of a Happy Meal."
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"but, she told me her gag reflex is really sensitive".
[–]TheTimelessUsername4 points5 points6 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Everyone in the comments must not be moral or something? If that was a deal breaker for him, he isn't wrong for doing it. Imagine if they did continue, they would've continued the relationship on a very big lie. The fact that she acts kind of shy towards sex suggests that there is definitely something fucked up going on. SHE even knows that it was a deal breaker for him, why else would she have lied?
The best possible outcome is always telling the truth. Because with the truth, he can make better decisions.
Lastly, he is amazing for sticking to your principles and not caring about you are the asshole. It's better to be a principled man than a delusional one.
[–]monkensteinxstupido3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
90% of the comments are not moral.
90% of the contributors screaming on that forum are women.
Its easy to prove. Read AITA until you find and opposite situation. And all of a sudden, all of the comments are "She must know the truth"
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
especially with the science behind it. it's proven that women's sex count has a huge effect on her ability to pair bond long term, which is why men like virgins because they actually sometimes stay faithful for their life.
[–]s0ulfire5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Respect for the lady to help out a dude.
An average woman would have stuck by her fellow sister and watch the man get cucked for the rest of his life.
[–]FutureSquall3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Her whole family is about to pull a 180 and disown her ass. Josh has, as the OP stated, established himself. So much for digging into his wealth.
[–]ThaiEscapePlan2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
this story reminds me a bit about the doctor and the sweet shy woman who pursued him. They were engaged and someone anonymously sent him videos. Turned out she had been a porn actress.
It wasnt just the lies and omissions but the fact that he was not getting porn star sex from the ex porn star. Beta bux status confirmed.
Bet Josh is feeling the same thing. She's fucked 100 guys but I'm getting the Little House on the Prairie treatment?
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
it's why i meet whores. at least they are honest about how they live and there is no guess work. knowing what i know now, i could never date some "innocent" girl because my mind would be jumping to all the conclusions about just how big of a whore she is. and i can guarantee, no matter how proper she seemed, deep down she was a whore!
[–]MichaelSkarn_FBI2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The same people calling out OP would also call out someone for NOT telling a woman her fiancé was lying about his income.
[–]sootlord2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I love how OP stated that his sister was portraying herself as "sexually shy and was her 3rd partner" Glad that he to her fiance what was up 👍
[–]Stargazer342 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
God damn, what a fucking hero. Men standing for truth like this is so valuable. Could have saved that mans life.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
OP is a woman. i'm shocked as well. a woman who stands up for sexual decency!
[–]CptGoodnight2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It was shocking how much everyone said "YTA."
If I were the fiance, I'd DEFINITELY want to know.
Over a hundred different men, and she acted sexually shy, and told him he was her 3rd?!
Good god. OP may have saved this man bigtime.
[–]rigoexe2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Bravo. We need more people like that. People willing to speak the truth even if it makes them unpopular.
Edit: her motives are questionable since I have doubts about any sort of ‘impulse’ towards integrity existing in modern women. Happy ending nonetheless.
[–]mnight752 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
NTA
I don't have an issue with her being what is clearly a cock carousel whore. The issue I take here is the lie.
If she will lie to protect her SMV, what else will she lie about? Number of partners is such a trivial thing compared to the rest of the things that happen in a couples life.
Will she lie about other more important things, and then when he finds out and does something about it divorce rape him?
I am biased, and would tell him not to bother getting married in the first place because women are road blocks to success as often as they are enhancements to success, and who knows which one any particular girl will be. Yet the casual lie like this, tells me she is of the former group, not the later.
[–]them1lfman2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Post like these are what pushed me to take the red pill. It’s not the post itself but the hordes of indignant comments twisting arguments every which way to hamster away the females disgusting behavior.
The double standards are appalling and sickening to me.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
shocked the thread isn't locked yet. lol.
[–]RegiusGeralt2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
So many captain save a hoe assholes on the sub my eyes turned red reading the comments.
[–]StrawhatMucci2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
u/Marshmellowburned Alot of us here think you did the right thing man. No worries. You are not the asshole edit that out. I am not even mgtow btw.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Such a ridiculous sub in the first place. Do what you want, why the fuck would you ask redditors to give their opinion on your actions? If you don’t behave like a liberal doormat particularly if you’re a man they think you’re a nazi. I’ve brought up stoicism and the pursuit of virtue and they think the idea is absurd, because clearly their mental philosophy is healthy when so many people on these subs admit they have depression/anxiety/whatever debilitating mental condition. They act like moral gatekeepers except when any of their ideas are criticized, then traditional morals should be thrown out because it hurts their feelings.
Asking Reddit anything is like going to the weird kids in high school and using them as your moral compass. Most of them are kids or at best college students and so brainwashed into the idea of liberal humanism anything else seems absurd. Hard pass, I can make my own judgments
[–]infinitepowerhtx1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Imagine if the roles where switched and it was a man who was lying to a women.
[–]BrianHeidiksPuppy1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Women love to force good honest men to lie so they can create false equivalencies between the degrees of liars when looking at themselves and their "partner".
Oh I slept with 100 guys and didnt tell you because that would effect how you felt because its fundamental to what you believe about relationships opposies well ya know it shouldn't matter (deconstructing the lied to mans moral values nonchalant) and everyone lies like when you tell me I looked good in that dress ( a lie she forced you to tell by her own unreasonable reaction to an honest answer to a dishonest question).
That has 0 to do with sleeping with 100 guys which is an entirely different level of conversation. That is fundamentally about the fact she lied to him about something she knew was a lie and knew was this important the entire time thats why she lied to begin with. Its not an unfair expectation sprung on her at the last second that never presented a natural opportunity to come up prior. That would be a lie of omission. This is lie lie in the sense she crafted a false narrative about herself to deceive him intentionally. The question that man must answer is if he can even marry someone who could do THAT before he addresses his opinions on the fact she slept with 100 guys which there was no indication that is not the smaller issue here. Unsurprisingly principled men are often more upset about the principle of creating that false narrative to deceive him than the actual thing being covered up. There is a dual sided conversation to be had about the benefits of promiscuity and certainty especially when meeting for the first time later in life. There is no conversation to even be had when you break the fundamental principles of trust itself.
[–]observant_one 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Look at all the assholes calling OP the asshole. That sub is honestly cancer. People there can't comprehend basic shit.
[–]r1chten1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
He gave the dude the hoefax and he is in the wrong? Smdh
[–]pandakrunch1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
So sad seeing OP getting called an asshole. Hope he keeps on exposing his sister's bullshit
[–]shadowstep121 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Man gave a bro the pill. Don't care what anyone else thinks give him a reward. Coming out her vaccinating bros like that
[–]imperadorGP1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The guy call out a succubus, and is TA? No, sir. You are a hero. Saved a brother.
[–]zenman1231 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Bros should help out bros. Good on OP
[–]FalsePositiveRethink1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You did the right thing.
If she really thought her past didn't matter, she would have told him about it herself.
[–]AlmostIrresponsible2 points [recovered] | Copy Link
Cucks are saying he is the asshole. Clown world.
[–]cbr900rr19960 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
heheheh
[–]VinexHD0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
So she lied about her past and OP is the as*hole for telling him the truth ? Holy fuck, that sub is filled with pathetic keyboard warriors and true niceguys.
[–]monkensteinxstupido2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Nope. All Jezebel ass Lillith women.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha the honest one is considered an asshole! 🤡🌍
[–]tecnihelp0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
i don't understand what the people on this comment section are saying but you did the best, your sister doesn't deserve him because she is a whore and a liar
[–]goodeival0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Everytime I browse the comments of that sub I just get angry.
[–]botanga1310 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
At 100 whats another 1? Someone like that can change but I would like to know the statistics of the likelihood that a woman who has 100 partners suddenly stops and has sex with one dude for the rest of her life. I'd also factor in the lower probability of a successful marriage at that point.
I'm not saying that having 100 sexual partners is bad, power to you. but you are making a series of irrevokable decisions that basically do not make you marriage-worthy material in the traditional sense at that point. Eligible bachelors are not looking for that kid of chick to marry. She knew that which is why she lied. Not only that, he had a right to know. It would be akin to a mis-selling scandal. He did the right thing and he might have lost a sister but i can guarantee he can make a friend for life.
[–]RainVX0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"meddling when you don't need to is the essence of being a hero"
[+][deleted] [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
I have two sisters myself and I wouldn´t tell it. It is not my business. I know some here will not like it.
[–]operationdragoon11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That would make you complacent in a lie, the woman in question should have handled it far differently - but she was still justified in letting her sister's fiance know.
[–]H82Breakit2u10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I hope some guy with a hidden past of beating the shit out of women marries one of your sisters
And when she turns up at your door with a broken jaw, and you ask Cletus's bother why he didn't warn anyone he smugly responds
"It wasn't any of my business"