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Im 20 so I guess im young. Never had a gf in my life or a relationship in any way shape or from so I dont really have any "experience" but I always thought it was all really silly to be honest. The whole concept of monogamy is insane to me but maybe its just me...I mean I like people but in small controlled doses. I just recently discovered MGTOW though and by definition I am a MGTOW but some members might not agree with this since the whole no relationship part.
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I see all guys who are "young" and claim to be MGTOW as merely being potential, but unproven MGTOW.
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IOW, it's is possible... but unlikely for them to "finish the race"; the vast majority of them WILL stumble & fall (for some flirty chick), get tripped/tricked/hornswoggled into some marriage/cohabiting/parenting situation, etc. -- and then only a decade (or two) emerge from divorce-rape etc, to "swear off women" again (ostensibly forever, but again for the majority of them that resolve will fail as well).
And the point, the problem -- which you seem so "butthurt" about -- of the skepticism around the "never been in a relationship" part... is that your resolve has never been "tested"... at all.
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Trust me that I actually *do* understand. I was myself of the opinion (and general resolve) at and from a very young age (we're talking early teen years) that *I* was NOT going to get married or have a family -- and it was because I saw and more or less "instinctively" understood the true nature of women even back then (and having seen my favorite uncle get divorce-raped, and watching other older friends and relatives get bashed around by women in various other ways, just reinforced it); and have only watched as it has gotten worse (and worse... and worse) over the decades.
And I had several friends who were of the same mindset, or certainly seemed to be, claimed to have resolved to remain bachelors -- but despite the claim, the "resolve" if you will, one after another they succumbed, git into relationships, got married, most got divorced, then remarried, etc.
At the same time, I myself -- again despite the resolve -- nevertheless did date, and had a few "relationships" (some lasting several years, though NEVER cohabiting, and they never really got much of my time, nor more than trivial amount of my resources) -- that said, I even contemplated marriage with more than one, and for a period of time, truly wanted to have children/family (in fact, I broke it off with one gal, who I otherwise really liked {and while she was not a NAWALT or unicorn, she was comparatively/relatively "sane/rational", for a woman}, and I broke it because she DIDN'T really want to have any kids; when we were discussing possibly getting married, she demurred that she could "compromise", but that didn't seem like a recipe for success to me; in fact the opposite).
Now I also not only never got married (and thus never "divorce-raped") but also never went through any majorly "bitter" breakups, all of my relationships ended amicably and sanely. (My dislike and criticism of women, especially "feminists" is based on my knowledge of their inherent nature, of the rank, blatant hypocrisy of the latter, and moreover awareness of the massive DAMAGE that they are wreaking in our society with their dishonest ways and manipulative narcissistic demands.)
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But the point is that I know that living an MGTOW life isn't simply a matter of "willpower" or prior resolve -- but rather one of being continually "tested" in that, and versus the somewhat random events in life, who you meet, when you meet, how, etc -- and that whether and what someone is willing to or might eventually decide to or choose to (or in some circumstances be forced to) "compromise" on in terms of their values/goals versus their prior sentiments and resolutions... well it changes over time, as various circumstances & things play out. The phrase "the best laid plans of mice and men" comes to mind.
So from that older/wiser perspective also comes caution... and an awareness that most young guys who shout "ME-TOO" to "MGTOW" -- well it would be irrational to laud or praise that in advance -- since for the majority (and probably especially those who make the most noise), they simply won't stand the test of time.
And that doesn't necessarily make them "lesser" men, or inferior people or utter "fools" (though in many, MANY cases they ARE in fact ALL of those things).
But it does mean I'm not going to get overly "excited" by, or impressed with -- some 16, 18, or even 25 year old (or in fact even some 40 year old post-divorce) dude saying "Jeeze, after that last experience (or no experience)... I'm done with women!"
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Because I know in > 90% of cases, it simply isn't going to prove to be true.
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