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[–]MenGoingTOWin139 points140 points141 points 6 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link
I found this chick's full picture if anyone is interested.
And yeah, "child support is for the child" would have been nice when I was a youngin' . I never saw a dime.
This chick bitching about how she's gotta buy chapstick ($0.89?) is just off the charts crazy.
Also, she sucks at math. "He makes 10 times as much as me! I'm unemployed." Ugh huh. So he's broke too? Well probably -- paying for you!!
[–]teelolws30 points31 points32 points 6 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link
I was very grateful when I graduated and found out my mother had put every cent she'd ever received in child support into a savings account in my name. She never spent any of it. Without that money, theres no way I would have been able to start my business without being someones corporate bitch for 15 years.
I wanted to thank my father, and offer a cut in my business, but I guess the resentment passes on to the next generation. He'd been a deadbeat since pre-birth but wouldn't respond to me when I tried to make contact. Oh well.
[–]Content_Not_History74 points75 points76 points 6 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link
He'd been a deadbeat since pre-birth
This means he never wanted to have you. That doesn't make him a deadbeat. That makes him a forced slave.
Don't blame your father because he was forced to pay for something he never wanted.
It's completely understandable his response. It's reasonable.
Remember, men don't have reproductive rights.
[+]teslaistheshit-22 points-21 points-20 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
So wrong. This is a women's mentality. Men don't need to stoop down to that level of denying responsibility because they didn't want a child.
[–]iseehot17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Men don't need to stoop down to that level of denying responsibility because they didn't want a child.
I'm not sure I understand your thinking in this case. The father didn't deny responsibility for the child support. Am I missing something?
[–]Content_Not_History3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So wrong. This is a women's mentality.
What's a woman's mentality?
You can't have responsibility without choice. Do some more thinking, and you'll see I'm right.
[–]gi0rno_gi0vanna2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No one denied responsibility. The father did exactly as was asked of him and was not obligated to do any more.
You are engaging in sentimentalism and it shows.
[–]WWKaminaD1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Let me break this down for you:
First, he didn't deny responsibility. He paid the child support. He was held accountable according to the law. I don't know the situation, but I can assume he took precautions because he clearly didn't want a child.
Second, you are placing all responsibility and accountability on the man in this situation. Equal rights mean equal responsibility. Responsibility comes with accountability. If you fuck up something you are responsible for, then you must be held accountable for not upholding that responsibility.
All actions have consequences. If responsibility is equal then the consequences of actions regarding that responsibility must also be equal.
If one person knowingly shirks responsibility without the other knowing, then those consequences should not adversely affect the individual who trusted the other to uphold their responsibility.
We live in a time where sex ed and contraceptives are more easily accessible that ever. There is NO reason to get pregnant and carry to term another human unless one truly wants and can provide for a child, period.
The ability to create a child does not give one free reign to manipulate others.
[–]teslaistheshit1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Valid points. Hopefully he learned his lesson and got a vasectomy.
[+][deleted] -34 points-33 points-32 points 6 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
If you don’t want kids wear a condom. Imagine defending someone as if they just magically had a baby without sticking their Willy in some bitch and nutting. Like how is that ever an accident or unintentional? Even a fucking 12 year old knows EXACTLY whats going to happen after that
[–]PMmepicsofyourtits24 points25 points26 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
This cuts both ways. Women control access to sex. Remember that.
[+][deleted] -18 points-17 points-16 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
And men control the nut. So what’s up with all these retards going all pikachu surprise face after a guy impregnated a chick. Like bro she didn’t break into your house, find a cum rag, and shove it up her cooch.
You nutted in that shit and are now wanting to bail on parenting? You’re fucking over your own kid just cause you don’t wanna be a dad? Maybe you shouldn’t have fucking nutted in her idiot. People like that deserve to be shot
[–]gi0rno_gi0vanna7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Never the woman's fault. Always the man's.
Typical.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I highly doubt you’re qualified to comment on adult sexual relationships.
[–]gi0rno_gi0vanna0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It doesn't take a genius to figure out the deceptiveness of a woman. They have a habit of pushing responsibility on the man, even when most of the times it's their fault.
[–]PMmepicsofyourtits5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If she wanted his resources, she should have stayed with him.
[–]FaustoLG2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You must be one of those PENDEJOS that let the girlfriend being fucked by Chad and Tyrone...
A CUCK...
Do you clean her pussy after being fucked by the other boys? Do you enjoy it? You clean with your tongue, do you?...
[–]Content_Not_History13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you don’t want kids wear a condom.
Sign, another bad argument. First off, wearing a condom doesn't ensure no kids. Also, it's only assisting the female with her responsibility, which is pregnancy. Men still don't have reproductive rights. Got it?
Imagine defending someone as if they just magically had a baby without sticking their Willy in some bitch and nutting.
This has nothing to do with the lack of reproductive rights for men.
Like how is that ever an accident or unintentional?
Why would it have to be? Again, nothing to do with reproductive rights.
Even a fucking 12 year old knows EXACTLY whats going to happen after that
Again, nothing to do with reproductive rights for men.
Why are you talking about intentional sex or not? Why does that matter? I think you're confused.
[–]Throwitawaygood6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Yeah coz everyone who has ever fucked has wanted kids. Moron.
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There’s a difference between sex and fucking without a condom AND nutting in her
You’re asking for kids at that point
[–]An_Annie_Mouse3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Condoms only work 85%...
The pill women use 99%...
Option to abort, 100% on women.
Now if everyone in the world (7.7bil) had sex at an assumed 50/50 ratio of men an women. That would mean that with only using condoms we would still have 1.1billion actually unwanted and planned against children.
Just for reference 99% still results in 77 million unwanted children in this example.
Nobody is asking for these occurences to happen and it's only natural for people to then be bitter about the inequality of the outcomes. Birth isn't 100% ever so having a child is like it's own lottery and it's often in favor of one, sadly almost never the child.
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[–]DannyTTT5572 points73 points74 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
A. How much does he pay
B. How much custody does he have
If you can't afford to look after your child, then maybe they should go live with their dad and you can see them on the weekend until you find a job
[–]Content_Not_History23 points24 points25 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yea, if she's unemployed shouldn't she just give them to him, if he wants them?
[–]CrimsonDivision199954 points55 points56 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
likely unemployed by choice so she can mooch of child support/alimony and still wants the man to do extra
[–]caem12323 points24 points25 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
but he becomes unemployed, he goes to jail for missing child support.
[–]ruifaf36 points37 points38 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And after all the years she still don't get it.
[–]-freed0m-12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They never do
[–]miketrance28 points29 points30 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Child support is his half. If you don’t like it give him full custody and you pay the support if you think that is a better deal.
[–]GrisBosque28 points29 points30 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sole custody perchance? sole responsibility for expenses comes with it.
This is what happens when you go along with an injustice for personal gain. it causes permanent resentment.
And what fucking business is it of the government's if households are equal? Like do they go around equalizing all households for the kids?
Thats socialism...
ok, judges have to pay sewage workers equalization?
Its all bogus! has no basis in anything close to justice. They're not even trying for justice... Theyre doing pretend justice and calling it justice.
Is none of her business or even the judge's what he makes. Its nothing but robbery to enforce a gender based slavery system, with the kids as one of many excuses.
When a system of government becomes an enforcer for one gender, this is not justice, this is tyranny.
When a system of government takes from the productive and gives to the lazy, this is not justice.
This is robbery at gun point so that women wont have to suffer the effects theyve caused.
Eliminating consequences is insanity.
[–]bigbobman64 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Preach
[–]RealBiggly25 points26 points27 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I totally agree with the guy. We're forced at gunpoint to pay XX for 'child' support. To expect a penny extra is bullshit.
[–][deleted] 25 points26 points27 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
She left him, she still complaining
Thing is, once you divorce your man and a kid is involved, you basically gonna cause one of the parents to get detached. It's an emotion that I had to battle with.
Sometimes I look at my daughter and think maybe I shouldn't worry about you so much and think about starting a new family. Those kinda thoughts race through your head at times.
I don't act on it, and my mgtow values don't make me act on those feelings cause I refuse to make the same mistake twice lol.
[–]BeastyWh1teGuy5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Finally someone who has similar thoughts to mine. I thought I was a piece of shit for thinking that way. Luckily I don't act on it either. Every mistake is a chance to learn.
[–]hypnotized18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It must have been tough, spending his money.
[–]retractileTesticles19 points20 points21 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Its never enough.
[–]anonymaccount6660 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Cool name !
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Check my account if you are a fan of retracted small nuts
[–]TheShadowbannedTruth11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If the husband really does have x10 times the income and the court has no problem with him visiting and taking out the kids, why the hell are they with her?
[–]AlphaCentauri221[S] 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Link: https://www.quora.com/Do-you-have-an-ex-husband-who-refuses-to-buy-your-child-anything-since-he-pays-child-support/answer/Andrea-Wagner-19?ch=3&share=1b972909&srid=0NYfX
[–]dvbtupanit8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Another question from quora: " If a child dies, does child support continue?"
[–]Chaos199010 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I seem to recall a woman demanding child support for a child she gave up for adoption.
Smh...
[–]AlphaCentauri221[S] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Link please, this deserves to become an internet sensation 😂
[–]Chaos19902 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Trying to find it, not having any luck. Maybe it was just a random comment on a different MGTOW post?
[–]Content_Not_History2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
hah, I responded to that thread. Thanks for that.
[–]caem1235 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Any divorced father needs a 'stay-out-jail' fund to fill before paying extra. He needs an account to cover remaining child support years in case he becomes unemployed due to illness or bad economy.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Excellent advice. I pay extra as a safety net. The govt keeps track of the extra and my obligations will actually end sooner because of it.
[–]krazye873 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's what child support is for lmao
[–]badaboomxx2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That is what child support is for. This hamstering is on another level.
[–]RiggNoxon2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m sorry but whatever a child needs at their father’s house he should purchase. If a woman was refusing to buy cold medicine and chapstick when her kids were with her rather than her husband, you guys would also be calling her a greedy/stingy bitch.
[–]siredmundsnaillary2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree. Technically he's not wrong. Child support is supposed to pay for all of the child's expenses.
But instead of enjoying time spent with his kids he's being petty over even $1 in costs... which makes him sound like an arsehole who has his priorities wrong in life.
[–]BadHabit830 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stupid woman. Child support isn't there to make things "even" or "equal" as far as income goes. Child support is there to be used on the children. So she just admitted she uses the money on herself and not for what it's intended. But that was a no-brainer anyway, they all do that.
[–]Kotaro-Atani0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, umm NO, the Child Support is his Legal amount and obligation he has to pay, I love how she says "I had not and have still never asked for extra money beyond what's court ordered." Ummm yeah, you just did by saying he needs to come up with more money to spend on them (the children), she is totally stupid. Never go full stupid, You want more money go fight it in court (probably can't since she unemployed), or go get a job (which should be mandatory in order to keep custody of children) to make more money so you can take care of the kid/kids better, if you cannot, then give custody of the kid/or kids to your ex-husband.. simple as that...but noooo..can't do that cause of Family court right??? Most women who are single mothers are straight up losers.. here is another one.. Leech..
[–]your_a_idiet0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do nothing bitch
[–]AccomplishedPotato60 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Child support is literally for buying your kids goddamn clothes, and I've never heard of a child support order that would not easily pay for double what any child could ever need in a given month.
[–]emmitgo0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This person is brainwashed, CHILD support is used to support the CHILD. What does"balancing" the homes even mean. No wonder she was unemployed. I don't understand how people this stupid can even survive.
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[–]mm674814 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go back to the legal amount, and then have your daughter come to you with her needs. Cut out the middle woMan.
She surely doesn't eat that much more.
[–]KyubeyIxc7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Give money direct to her and teach your daughter the basics man
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This right here is a grown man being held by the balls by his ex. Take notes boys.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Because he’s just giving up. There’s so many good suggestions in the comments but he’s just a pushover
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“Ya I just give my ex any money she asks for cause I’m sure it’s going to my little princess who is also probably being manipulated to hate me”
Alright sir cucklord. I’m curious what aspects of MGTOW you relate to. You sound extremely blue pilled
[–]Rudy_Bear831 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wasn't going to reply to you, because it seems like you're an overly-aggressive narcissist, and the various derogatory names you called me actually say more about you, than me (seeing as though you know absolutely nothing about me).
But, to answer your question, I guess the elements of GMOW that I aspire to are finding and achieving true happiness as a single man, without settling for an unwanted romantic relationship (as society would have me do), but rather finding the strength and solace in being on my own and having a long, fulfilled life as a single man and father.
And I get it, many here hate women, despise them even, and I know this is because they've been hurt too many times and have said enough is enough. I totally get that. My journey has been filled with pain at times too. But it's important to note that not all who are 'going their own way' feel the need to browbeat other men, in order to show just how fuckin AMAZING an alpha male they are, and shit on anything they say unless it fits with the 'fuck women, they're cunts mentality'. Don't get me wrong, I've met a lot of cunts, but for me, GMOW is more about me, focusing on my mental and physical health, rather than belittling others to give me a short term ego boost.
[–]velkafanboy312 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are being downvoted because you are a part of the problem simpy
[+]ochii-morti-9 points-8 points-7 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Ok, just be a human being for a second, take the money out of the equation, he is just a bad fucking parent. Child support is not enough to set a kid up for success in life, and I find it disgusting how most of the people commenting here overlooked the fact that he “didn’t bring them clothes for cold weather”, “doesn’t take care of them when sick when he has them”, and possibly the most disgusting part, that the kids have to get involved and realize their dad doesn’t actually love them. This is just gross. Grow a heart and get over yourselves.
[–]AlphaCentauri221[S] 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't blame you after all we all have gynocentrism, even the leaders of mgtow did. It takes time to get out of it.
The thing is child support and alimony both are frigging high enough (if you know how they both go in the divorce courts) to settle everything except it settles their Europe vacations or whatever they decided to spend it on.
She is just crying foul, playing the victim card. A little piece of advice, never trust women.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your thinking process needs some serious work.
[–]BigD19662 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Although there are some points you make that I agree with such as stepping up and parenting his children when sick, seeing as we weren’t able to hear his side of the story in rebuttal to her side, how about I share some of my experiences during the divorce and aftermath.
I paid a fair amount of child support to my ex I wasn’t allowed to ask what that money went on as I was told by the court it was none of my business. When my son would show up at the house he’d have these shitty old kicks or torn jeans or shirts that were small on him, Id take him to the mall and strain my already stretched budget and get him some new stuff. Next time he’d show up in the same ratty shoes torn jeans and too small shirts and I’d go WTF dude where’s the new stuff I just bought you and he’d say oh mom said that was too nice and the clothes were being saved for other things such as school. Now I could have set him up with a closet full of clothes at my place but she had the custodial rights. And he saw me every other weekend or on my days off. Low and behold the child support wasn’t going for care of him but financing her nights out. When he needed a winter coat I had to pay for it even though as I said I gave her a substantial amount.
What I’m saying is things can look quite differently from his side, and with her having custody as she says the kids belongings would most likely be with her so he says he’s going to take the kids on a trip to wherever to see his brother and if she knew it was going to be colder why wouldn’t she have packed the kids long pants and a jacket for them. Was she like my ex in wanting him to by new stuff by being a tad deceptive. Maybe dad had just bought a bunch of new clothes and had sent them home with the kids and she sent them back in old clothes hoping he’d purchase more clothes again. We’ll never know because we haven’t heard his side of things only hers. And even I’m doing the MSU (making shit up) thing, but I’ve also talked with other divorced fathers and have heard this from them.
Don’t get me wrong I love my kids and I never had an issue in paying child support my kids my responsibility it’s the alimony I have issues with, the courts do a fine job of keeping you attached to someone you no longer wish to be attached to.
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