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DNA is a language and only an intelligence can produce language.

This is like saying "Evolution is a theory, a theory is just a guess, ergo evolution is just a guess." It's equally ridiculous, and showcases your ignorance of DNA and chemistry. Plus, even if what you say is true (basically it's the same as saying math is a language), it doesn't prove your god exists, or really any god for that matter.

ESA scans of the universe show the earth in the center and its a perfect sphere.

I even said "don't cop out with "observable universe." Of course ESA scans show the earth in the center - it's showing the observable universe from where we are, which is on a fucking sphere with satellites in a spherical orbit, or in geosynchronous orbit around a sphere. Also, the current theory is that the universe is flat.

Oh it doesn't work that way. You have your own burden of proof since you made a positive claim. Failure to provide proof or to be a jack ass results in you being ignored like the rest of the fucktard atheists.

You still haven't proven a god or gods exist.

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That's a dumb generalization of atheism. Morality is within one's heart and his/her make-up as a human being and has NOTHING to do with religion. Its how bible thumpers scare kids, that "without religion where would morality come from?" SERIOUSLY?

If you think any religion has ANYTHING to do with morality then you really, really need to study the history of religion. Some of the most horrific tortures humanity has ever witnessed have been done in the name of "god". Just as an example read into how the Protestants and Catholics treated the Anabaptists.

Religion is a man made construct, in ancient times they knew nothing of science so they ascribed every wonderment of the world to some unseen deity because they honestly knew no better. However this is the modern age and books like the bible really don't hold up too well in the modern light. If you want to cherry pick it and ignore things like its celebration of slavery then by all means go ahead.

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If I was Jewish you would be antisemitic fucktard. I know exactly where the scripture came from. The Tanakh is the same as it was when it was originally written starting in 1400 BC till now. Nothing has changed and we have copies of the Tanakh from 800 BC that shows it hasn't changed. The same is true for the B'rit Hadashah being written between 45-120 AD. Do you know scripture?

Genesis 2

18 Adonai, God, said, “It isn’t good that the person should be alone. I will make for him a companion suitable for helping him.” 19 So from the ground Adonai, God, formed every wild animal and every bird that flies in the air, and he brought them to the person to see what he would call them. Whatever the person would call each living creature, that was to be its name. (S: iii) 20 So the person gave names to all the livestock, to the birds in the air and to every wild animal. But for Adam there was not found a companion suitable for helping him.

21 Then God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the person; and while he was sleeping, he took one of his ribs and closed up the place from which he took it with flesh. 22 The rib which Adonai, God, had taken from the person, he made a woman-person; and he brought her to the man-person. 23 The man-person said, “At last! This is bone from my bones and flesh from my flesh. She is to be called Woman [c], because she was taken out of Man [d].” 24 This is why a man is to leave his father and mother and stick with his wife, and they are to be one flesh.

That there describes genetic manipulation and cloning. Incidentally, genetics is a Jewish/Christian science started by Pasteur and Mendel both Christians. Genetics shows that there is a language written in our DNA that is 3 billion characters that fills up a biomechanical hard drive that is 2.2 microns long and holds 5.8 GB of data. This came from an intelligence. Now you account for the millions of species on Earth with similar amounts of data that it is mathematically impossible for it all to exist without an intelligence behind it.

Here's Psalms 19 written 1400 BC describing the universe and how it functions with iron age tech. How would King David know any of this?

19 (0) For the leader. A psalm of David:

2 (1) The heavens declare the glory of God, the dome of the sky speaks the work of his hands. 3 (2) Every day it utters speech, every night it reveals knowledge. 4 (3) Without speech, without a word, without their voices being heard, 5 (4) their line goes out through all the earth and their words to the end of the world. In them he places a tent for the sun, 6(5) which comes out like a bridegroom from the bridal chamber, with delight like an athlete to run his race. 7(6) It rises at one side of the sky, circles around to the other side, and nothing escapes its heat.

8(7) The Torah of Adonai is perfect, restoring the inner person. The instruction of Adonai is sure, making wise the thoughtless. 9 (8) The precepts of Adonai are right, rejoicing the heart. The mitzvah of Adonai is pure, enlightening the eyes. 10(9) The fear of Adonai is clean, enduring forever. The rulings of Adonai are true, they are righteous altogether, 11(10) more desirable than gold, than much fine gold, also sweeter than honey or drippings from the honeycomb. 12(11) Through them your servant is warned; in obeying them there is great reward.

13 (12) Who can discern unintentional sins? Cleanse me from hidden faults. 14 (13) Also keep your servant from presumptuous sins, so that they won’t control me. Then I will be blameless and free of great offense.

15 (14) May the words of my mouth and the thoughts of my heart be acceptable in your presence, Adonai, my Rock and Redeemer.

You do realize that there are more translations then just the King James version right? I'm partial to the Complete Jewish Bible which uses the 1917 Jewish Publication Society's translation of the Tanakh from Hebrew to English and Dr. Stern's translation of the Greek and Syriac originals of the New Testament. The oldest copies of the Tanakh go back to 800 BC while the original New Testament (B'rit Hadashah) dates to the second century under the Aramaic translation of the Peshitta.

Talking with atheist tards is fun because they are so ignorant about everything.

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Once again the atheist tards cannot stop making the false dichotomy that science and religion are polar opposites. They aren't. Believing in the fantasy of evilution which is a junk science that has been disproven is retarded.

Except that it hasn't. We have copies of the Tanakh going all the way back to 800 BC that is identical to what we have today. In fact, by you discounting the Tanakh and Judaism you are being antisemitic. Did you think that through fuckstick?

Given the state of the world when it was written slavery was all the rage. Slaves were abused and murdered by all the other cultures around the Jewish people. Yet, they were the only ones to have laws saying how to treat them. You do realize that every 7th year, which is a Jubilee year, all slaves were freed with their debts forgiven. They were even given the wages that they earned during the time in slavery. So because they were paid doesn't make them a slave. They were hired help that had to be taken care of. Oh my that is so terrible. Fuck off.

Also, slavery is still rampant throughout the world. It's even here in the US and they are illegal aliens that have no protections under the law. White Christian men got rid of slavery either through force of arms or through peaceful means. The Jewish people got rid of them much, much earlier. Meanwhile atheists are content to have their current slaves as they don't view humans as anything special.

If it was so mistranslated then why are the oldest copies identical to what we have today?

Yet, you believe that there is no God. Yes you are arguing based on faith because you can't disprove God. Even Hawking said it himself that there is no way to disprove God. The biggest retarded man baby stated that you can't disprove God.

Did you know that the Tanakh and B'rit Hadashah has been extensively studied by scientists for over 400 years with several scientific disciplines dedicated to it? Did you know that said scientists have repeatedly found that the Tanakh and B'rit Hadashah to be 99% accurate? So based upon this and the simple fact that you are raging against Jewish scripture that you are an antisemitic buffoon.

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I did a rant on secular humanism after watching a debate.... Here it is:

Secular humanism – the core religion of materialism, hedonism, and statism – is a facade which seeks only to demonstrate moral superiority of the atheist over the theist through the perpetuation of an innate, false empathy for the collective well being of human life in totality. The irony is that: the immorality of a theist can be blamed on the ideology from whence it came, whereas the atheist claims these immoral, devolutionary philosophies as intrinsic to the actor – themselves. The altruistic atheist, for example, cannot explain his altruism, especially considering in-group/out-group dynamics. Global altruism, for example, would prove highly contradictive and self-destructive.

The atheist who is willing to die for a stranger, for instance, cannot explain why – other than that altruism is what is generally admonished of theists. What reason would an atheist have to die for another especially one with whom they shared no goals or virtues? All that an atheist can claim is that his altruism was inspired by besting that of a theist, to say: “I am willing to die for another on my own accord, because it is intrinsic, not because I am called upon to do so.” So it is thus that the secular humanist will simply adhere to immoral philosophies of self-sacrifice for no apparent, objective reason. The immorality of self-sacrifice is not innate to human life, and is antithetical to all concepts of evolution – the greater sacrificing for the lesser is not virtuous, for only the lesser remains. Religious ideology calls upon its adherents to submit themselves to a human inspired, man-conceived notion of “God” and therefor to the collective good of the creation of God – all people, or all life no matter who or what that life may represent. This can be explained by the concept of and ensuing belief in original sin – that man is created evil, in sin, whose natural urges are perverted, and that only through self-sacrifice can he attain “goodness.” This belief is immoral for many reasons, but not quite as immoral as suggesting that this suicidal deficiency exists as a fundamental of human life and that this is an objective, scientific fact that can be acknowledged and promulgated as such.

The secular humanist philosophy worships the state as the protector of the collective good of human life and morality which always leads to communal misery and enforced devolution – enforced self-sacrifice to the state as opposed to the religious institution, contrary to no such imposition of self-sacrifice at all. The greater should never sacrifice for the lesser, both theists and atheists would do well in remembering this basic decree. We do not need government or man-made gods to impose suicide upon us that would have superior groups destroyed for the benefit of the inferior. Rather an objectively construed mathematical “God” predicated upon the advancement of the superior, as dictated by natural evolutionary environmental causation.The growth of superiority is indeed virtuous and will occur naturally.

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Finally, you give me something other than "straw man".

Religion, unfortunately, is simply the only way to get a population on board with behaviors that benefit society, even when those behaviors may not lend the greatest dopamine hit. Secular humanism is a completely subjective philosophy - it isn't backed by anything but human emotion, which is the opposite of rational. It isn't backed by evolution, it doesn't call for actions which stifle some of the unwanted behaviors of living in hunter/gatherer societies such as the 80/20 rule, it isn't based on mathematics, it has no deity (which for any who believe the deity to be real is at least objective to their perception, which is technically "good enough" as far as society is concerned - meaning from the perspective of the rest of us - this does not include Islam btw unless you are a Muslim of the same sect ie. the perceived in-group but Islam is much different from Christianity and Judaism).

I understand what humanism ATTEMPTS to do, but it does not replace religious deities to the average member of society and it basically amounts to some guy somewhere claiming that some behavior is moral or immoral because he feels a certain way about it. If you take "God" away from a population, nothing you or anyone else does matters anymore. You are temporary programs on a harddrive with no user, destined for deletion. So now what? Why abstain from promiscuity and drug use? Why care about anyone else at all? Where is our real purpose and who will even remember it? Nihilism is unfortunately the only replacement for most of the population. Sam harris described a moral framework which suggests "the greatest amount of physical pleasure for the greatest amount of people" is the imperative of morality. But this is wrong. This basically equates to John lennons "imagine", which would be the absolute end of human civilization.

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Morality is within one's heart and his/her make-up as a human being and has NOTHING to do with religion

Oh boy... This hurt to read. Objective morality is essentially a collection of traits and behaviors which would manifest as the increased fitness and therefor evolutionary success of the perceived in-group, in question, practicing said behaviors in whatever environmental milieu said group finds themselves.

So let's make evolutionary biology god for a second. God said "let there be natural selection" aka survival of the fittest. "Fit" refers to the fitness of the individual or group. Those with the most "fitness" survive and pass on their genes and grow, the least fit die off (and then everyone in the middle). Natural Selection is a term coined to the mechanism which states that the most important traits one can have for success in an environment will be naturally passed on to the next generation while those without these traits will not live long enough to breed or will be actively rejected due to their unwanted mutations. In evolutionary terms, morality would have to be whatever behaviors led to better fitness of the individual or group - if we can't count survival instincts programmed into us via biology as the objective foundation for our set of moral codes, then we have no objective sense of morality. You just have a clusterfuck of people's shitty emotional garbage which lead to quotes like "the path to hell is paved in good intentions" by people who THOUGHT they were moral based on how they felt about a particular something or other....

Anyway, religion is a human construct - true. But, it is mostly a collection of behaviors which BENEFIT society in the era of civilization, which would be the human species current environmental milieu - it's true, biblical teachings (New Testament especially) align with proper behaviors that lead to overall social success and cohesion of a society (which then allows that society to focus on economic prosperity). You see, we can't run a society living as we did in the wilderness of our evolutionary ancestors. You do realize the 80/20 rule is natural, correct? This alone can kill your society in a few generations - the bible pushes marriage because (even though it has become a near-lethal endeavor, it is in fact a necessary element of a successful civilization: a nuclear family structure in the majority of your nations population (MGTOW walking away for me means that I am actively allowing this society to collapse as these necessary structures have been poisoned or outright destroyed).

But, what if we were to prove there were no god and thus no real purpose? You would see a massive blow to the "human spirit" of your population. You would break them. For some, this is all they have. (No god means no infinite perception of you means you don't really exist. Why? Because you will blink out of existence - die - and so will anyone who's ever known you or of you - you never existed, and neither did they, you're the tree falling in the forest with no one around to hear it - did you make a sound? Can you prove it?).

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Wow, what a good christian you are. Geeze I thought it was a friendly discussion.

Or are you mad that I proved you were an atheist when it comes to Thor?

Here is the definition since you seem to be having trouble

"Atheism is, in the broadest sense, the absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is the rejection of belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities"

That's it, pretty simple. I need EVIDENCE. Something religion does not have. What am I missing?

Or would you like to talk about how much good Atheists have done in the world, Bill Gates literally cured Polio in many third world countries, or do you want to talk about how much money Warren Buffett has donated to charity? Or are they just terrible people as well?

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38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you. 43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Matthew 5:38-48

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Do you know what the teaching is all about? It is about making your enemies treat you as an equal. See in the Roman empire higher social ranked individuals would hit a lower ranked individual on the cheek as the mouth was reserved to someone of equal rank. By forcing them to hit both cheeks leaves only the mouth left to hit. By forcing them to hit you in the mouth they are forced to admit you are an equal. Since Jews were lower ranked then Roman citizens they were constantly hit on the cheek. This teaching addresses this fact. If you kill your enemy then you are still not equal to them which is why he taught about forcing them to hit you in the mouth over killing them.

Since I am equal to you socially and legally this means that the eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth is back in effect. I love atheist tards when they quote scripture and are ignorant about it.

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Again it falls under being treated as an equal. Under Roman law, if a non-citizen helps a citizen then they can be made a citizen through their actions which leads to them being equal under Roman law for citizenship. The point Yeshua was making was to not fight the Romans for the sake of fighting the Romans as per what happened with the Maccabean revolt. It was to become equal to Roman citizens by becoming Roman citizens themselves.

Again, that is some wild interpretation. You're basically saying Jesus called the Jews to integrate into Roman society? "To become Roman citizens?" Everyone looked down on Jews because they didn't pray to Roman gods. They were heathens. Roman citizens were extremely religious.

You ignore the fact that Israel was a very rebellious state and under a brutal military dictatorship. Think about this, Pontus Pilate was the only prefect to be recalled from Israel due to his brutality. Let that sink in.

Lol wut? What a logic disconnect. How would Judea, being rebellious, become Roman citizens, subservient to the emperor? Like, are you having a stroke or something? Even if all of what you said wasn't ridiculous, it would be at odds with the rest of the passage, or the "blessed are the meek and peaceful" stuff.

No, the one that is full of shit and a hack would be you.

I'm not a Christian. I am a Netzarim. Can't you read fuckstick?

Sorry, I didn't know that was some Jewish-Christian hybrid religion.

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No it was not at all. Atheism is #1 not a religion at all. #2 Stalin was a terrible dictator who happened to be atheist #3 Hitler did what he did IN the name of god (among other reasons). #3 What about the Spanish inquisition, what about the crusades. Religion has been LITERALLY killing atheist for centuries. #4 No Atheism was NOT the state religion of the USSR there was no state religion at all.

Religion has killed more people than any other reason, period. I feel like you need to learn a bit more about what atheism actually is. For example you don't believe in Thor do you? Then you are an Atheist when it comes to Thor. I literally believe in ONE less god then you do. Thats it. Atheism is a religion like not collecting stamps is a hobby. Anyone who claims it is a religion really does not understand what it is.

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You can use a search engine and do your own research you lazy fucktard.

The Islamic march towards Europe from the East was halted in 718 when the Byzantines, led by Emperor Leo III, annihilated the Muslim army that had besieged Constantinople for over a year. Muslim expansion in the West was halted by Charles Martel and the Franks in 732 at the battle of Tours, in what is now central France. However, the blocking of the land routes into Europe did not end the Muslim conquests. The Muslims, who became known in Europe as “Saracens,” took to the seas in a campaign of conquest and pillage that terrorized the western Mediterranean for three hundred years.

Estimates of crusade deaths range from as low as 1 million people all the way to 9 million.

Crusades lag behind Atheists by 241-249 million people and this was over a period of several centuries. More people died from the plague then the crusades.

Since Islam would be lumped in with religious violence, yes it's shifting goalposts. You're trying to exclude the most violent one because it doesn't fit your narrative you fucking elmer's muncher

I didn't include Islam, so it's you that moved the goal post. I was speaking for Judaism and its sects. Suck start a shotgun.

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It should be made clear that Sky Italia and Fremantle did not pick Asia Argento as a judge of X Factor Italy for her commitment to the #Metoo campaign, nor for her personal stances, but rather – as it has always been the case when it came to choose the judges of X Factor Italy – for her musical skills and ability to manage a television role in a show like this. "Skills and abilities widely proven during the show auditions, recorded in recent weeks, as the large audience attending them could easily confirm. "That said, we want to be very clear: if the allegations reported by the New York Times today were to be confirmed, the issue would be absolutely inconsistent with Sky's ethical principles and values and therefore – in full agreement with FremantleMedia – we would have no choice but to take note of it and put an end to the collaboration with Asia Argento."

It's looking good for us.

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It's not since I'm reading it now. It's an interview with Erik Prince concerning Weiner's laptop and how the NYPD was re-acting to it. Breitbart conducts interviews all the time like other news organizations. So your claim that Breitbart pushed Pizzagate as legitimate news is false. The interview has zero to do with Comet Pizza and the Podestas' pedo ring conspiracy. Seems to me that you love fakenews.

Link to interview

“The Justice Department is trying to run out the clock, to elect Hillary Clinton, to prevent any real justice from being done,” he warned.

Erik Prince was right in that the DoJ wanted to run out the clock to protect Clintoon. They did it which is why it's being exposed now. Hence why all these Obama officials are being fired and their security clearances removed.

“They found State Department emails. They found a lot of other really damning criminal information, including money laundering, including the fact that Hillary went to this sex island with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Bill Clinton went there more than 20 times. Hillary Clinton went there at least six times,” he said.

All information was verified to be correct due to the logs kept by their security details. Do you really think that Bill or Hillary don't have USSS protection? They do and ever since Bill was president. It's standard procedure for them to have details until they die. These details have to keep records of where they go and why. Those records are a matter of public record due to the mandatory reporting clause in the Constitution of the United States and federal law.

Also, none of this has to do with Pizzagate. It all has to do with Hillary and Bill's illegal activities which the details are coming out as we speak. So I don't see any fake news here.

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Here is a fake news article peddling a ridiculous conspiracy theory about Hillary Clinton and a pedo sex ring.

I already posted it you dumb fuck and told you to read it. Surprise but the Clintons were good friends with Jeffrey Epstein owner of Lolita Island. He's also a convicted pedophile. Bill had been to Loilita Island at least 20 times. That's a true story dumb ass. Are leftists always this fucking stupid?

Second link has nothing to do with Pizzagate. It had to do with four women that targeted Judge Moore with PoundMeToo allegations. Funny how leftists like you support PoundMeToo. Your article references real fake news that is CNN. The least trusted name in news is the source. This is what the article actually had to say and I'm sure that you would agree with what Marlow actually said.

"I think they want to create a standard where President Trump either from past or future accusations, will not be able to match whatever standard is now in place for who can be a United States senator," he said. "Based off not any sort of conviction or any sort of admission of guilt, but based off of purely allegations."

"I think that's the playbook here," he added. "And I think it's part of the reason why it was so important for Breitbart to continue our coverage of the way we covered it ... and for Steve in particular to hold the line the way he did for -- I think part of it is because it's not just about Judge Moore, it is not even just about establishment, anti-establishment. It's about what's coming next for President Trump."

So CNN claims that Marlow said they published fake news when in fact Marlow said no such thing. He was talking about Judge Moore being tried without so much as any evidence of wrongdoing by women that targeted him with PoundMeToo allegations. Seems to me that by you citing this that you support PoundMeToo especially when it is against Republican candidates. You haven't got any credibility left.

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No Trump just loves to randomly pay off people.

No proof that he paid anyone. None of his accusers have produced processed checks showing him making a payment. This is what was in the recording that Cohen made. Cohen insisted upon cash while Pres. Trump insisted upon a check. Since no check or other documentation showing a payment was made exists means it doesn't exist.

Of course it isn't. But it is hilarious because it highlights just how fake the Christian right is in the US.

You obviously don't understand Christianity. A big tenant of the faith is forgiveness and being non-judgmental due to scripture saying that we can't judge while being forgiving. Nothing hypocritical about it as it is between Pres. Trump and Yeshua. I just think you love to be an antisemitic bigot since Christianity is a sect of Judaism and you hate Jews.

LOL. Whataboutism. Are you butthurt because someone points out just how big of a fraud Trump the fattie is?

I pointed out real crimes committed by a Democrat and typical leftard excuses it. Pres. Trump isn't a fraud and that is obvious when you look at how well the US is doing economically. Almost all of his campaign promises have been fulfilled for the benefit of others. For someone you call a fraud he hasn't taken a salary yet and donates it to worthwhile charities or to help with specific government spending like to veterans. That's not being a fraud. If you think the left is honest then you are fucked in the head.

Trump should never have wasted money on paying all the women he was fucking behind Melania's back to keep quiet. His followers are as rotten as he is, so they really wouldn't have cared either way.

Again there is no evidence that he paid anyone. What his lawyer did in his name is not the same as him doing it himself. Like I said there is no documented proof that any pay offs happened. Put up or shut up.

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#BitchToo

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Title	#HerToo
Author	CommanderSmokeStack
Upvotes	1201
Comments	334
Date	August 22, 2018 1:33 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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