MGTOW in the workplace

zhinkleisthebest · 2017-07-18T17:24:28+00:00

They secretly envy you.

sadpandathrowaway76 · 2017-07-18T17:30:05+00:00

They always do.. shaming tactics galore.. because.. misery loves company.

Ignore most of it.. just smile and do your thing. Some tips:

If they keep asking.. just tell them you didn't found "the one" yet. That will suffice for most people.. you are male you do not have bio clock ticking. If some people keep pushing and shaming.. let them know that there are boundaries to discussing private life at work. Contact HR if situation gets ugly.. but that could be extreme cases.

Important: You mentioned you live with parents.. try to "paint the picture" that your parents need your help in daily basis.. you don't have to lie or anything.. Just simple statements.. I had to take my mom to DMV on the weekend.. she was not able to drive that day.. people will never ask for too personal details.. But that will help you a lot..

Because: All people with spouses/kids.. families will always discriminate against you .. they have "personal life" you are disposable.. so every time work needs someone to come on weekend its gonna be you.. they have kids obviously cannot do that right? Well .. wrong.. if you establish that you are "taking care" of somebody.. like your parents.. you can always counter that discrimination saying.. sorry .. have to take my dad to get new glasses.

Marque01 · 2017-07-18T18:28:47+00:00

Misery loves company :)

christianlazard · 2017-07-18T17:28:37+00:00

I was getting shit from the women when I was working part-time during my time as a university student. I had quite a well-paid (for students) job at a major bank where I could basically work whenever I wanted.

In Germany we usually have about 6 weeks paid leave per year, and I also was entitled to 6 weeks unpaid leave to prepare for exams.

The following things happened: – Women said that I should earn less, since I had no one to support. – Most of the times when I wanted to take a week or two off from work, they were complaining that I should not have a right to take weeks off during spring or summer, but only during the winter, since they themselves wanted to travel in spring/summer, and a minimum staffing was required to get the job done. – There was a lot of bitching from the women about them having responsibilities, while I was free and had no duties. – During my 5 years there, the male employee percentage dropped from maybe 70% to 20%. ;)

OGMGTOWNER · 2017-07-18T17:26:59+00:00

I think every MGTOW is in your position. People will not accept it. Society doesn't accept it. Doesn't matter though, because you make your own choices in life

Morgsz · 2017-07-18T19:23:32+00:00

Married guy here.

A big part of this probably stems from the amount of time they spend working on kids, wife home. This forms the bulk of their spare time and thus the bulk of their social conversations would resolve around that.

It is easy to imagine emptiness with out all that stuff, failing to realize it is easily filled doing stuff you want...or even the drempt of doing nothing.

I should say MGTOW is not about hating women, or hating wives. But that by going mgtow you can do what you want and better yourself.

Lead by example and do. Don't just exist (at moms house), but thrive. Go learn, adventure and have fun.

igetbucketsallday · 2017-07-18T17:55:45+00:00

I usually appeal to a couple things. Firstly, the legal aspect is a strong and quick way to respond. I'll say I'm not really interested in marriage, they ask why. I usually say something about how marriage is a bad contract and I don't like the legal side of it, and my go-to "funny" line that I follow up with is that I get pissed off when my phone contract is more than a year, why would I sign any kind of lifetime contract? They usually nod in a somewhat understanding way when I say that.

I will also say that I don't want kids because I'm too selfish. Just outright admitting that takes the power out of their hands to prescribe any negative attribute to you. They usually accept it at face value.

Depends on your audience though really. With some people I just say maybe one day.

zachs_alligator · 2017-07-18T18:32:35+00:00

If the topic comes around to that, I don't make fake excuses. I lay out why my life is great. No drama, all the free time I want, and plenty of money. Old guys say keep on my current track. Young guys say I'm missing out.

Most men hate their married lives and only say all that sappy shit about it being great because they are trying to save face from the absolute worst decision they ever made.

NietzscheExplosion · 2017-07-18T20:44:27+00:00

A Married guy at my work (actually a married incel for sure), used to bug me and another guy.

One day I had enough: "Why so I can be a miserable as you?". He never bothered me again.

ZebChristov · 2017-07-18T17:28:25+00:00

The only reply you need is: "I'm looking for the real thing and I haven't found the right person yet!"

Think as you like, act like everyone else.

HeroicCunt · 2017-07-18T20:25:09+00:00

If you want a fair answer how to handle these types? Smile, nod and walk away. Don't explain, don't discuss, don't get mad. Stand up straight and focus on your work. Every negative outburst towards you should make you feel good, because they have lost something what you have.

PillowCastLongShadow · 2017-07-18T20:52:15+00:00

Don't dox yourself to them. I would decide now how you will handle possible scenarios by knowing what you will tolerate from coworkers and employers. Know your limits and know what is a deal breaker now so that you can easily handle situations and mitigate your exposure.

Some things to consider:

Decide how much personal information you are willing to divulge and for what reasons you might reveal more. Decide strategic ways to refuse answering questions.

Know your limits and reasons for refusing to take on more work for someone else even an employer. Know how and when you should inform them of your boundaries.

Know how much harassment you will decide to tolerate in the workplace for you personal life decisions and how you want to address breaches of this boundary.

Know when to walk away from a fellow coworker, project or job and how to best do it for your own safety and future security.

I think this is more about knowing and firmly establishing your boundaries and preparing yourself for difficult scenarios. Just because someone is all smiles and exudes a hospitable embrace doesn't mean they aren't planning your demise. People hate others for being different let alone being free.

DWShimoda · 2017-07-18T19:01:38+00:00

Anyone else get any shit from co workers about living the way I am? And how to deal with it?

One simple way is to tell them that you've seen the other side... from THEM.

How married guys (especially when drunk) will be honest -- in vino veritas -- and then proceed to whine and complain about the bitchy/nagging wife (or girlfriend) and the snotty, noisy, ungrateful little shits that their kids are.

Seriously, they ALL do it.

mercwithamagicsword · 2017-07-18T18:34:32+00:00

Could be worse, I manage a building of 70 women and 2 guys. One guy is married 2x and the other 4x...yep.

secant128 · 2017-07-18T18:37:20+00:00

I have a different experience, or at least a mixed experience.

A senior staff of mine, he's an old man, was divorce raped two times, lost his houses, cars, motorcycles, but he traded those for the custodies of his children. He said he was glad that he made that decision at the time and able to see and bring up his son and daughter to be responsible human beings. But no he said he won't fall into marriage again.

My previous boss was also divorce raped, lost his house, didn't ask much further than that.

Tradcons think gynocentrism is a myth but when we see real life examples of people around us like our fathers, brothers, uncles, coworkers, being victims and even that don't convince them then those people are just ignorant.

Xlasingx · 2017-07-18T19:03:28+00:00

just note to them you're pining for a certain female, in another city/town..

just nod, as if agreeing, while mentally agreeing they're fools..

..and let the rest be..

only bad things can occur, if you stray the grain..

least until you have, "fuck you money"..

hizek · 2017-07-18T20:36:01+00:00

Just don't give a shit and ignore them.

I frustrate many mengina and their branching female monkeys at work by not even caring. You cannot attack someone which doesn't interact with you, and they don't have balls to force any of it.

squidracer · 2017-07-18T21:59:11+00:00

It used to be that way, but lately more of the young guys are doing the same. Most of us date time to time. Some even cohabitate. But the number avoiding marriage and kids had risen sharply

odion1500 · 2017-07-18T20:51:17+00:00

shaming tactics learn to ignore and change the subject,

people always look for a weakness so they can knock you down if they see you climbing. all that matters at work is your performance

if you say it does not bother you then act like it.

MobTilliDie · 2017-07-18T21:14:28+00:00

It's almost like they try to drag me down to their level.

May your balls never fail you

twosidestoeverycoin · 2017-07-18T22:01:35+00:00

I never understood this from other married men. I work in a female dominated sector. Private education. I'm a boss. I have over 15 female teachers on staff.. 3 of the new ones are young males just graduated. They're all Chinese and I warn them every time it comes up in office gossip. . The girls always making comments to them like "So you got a bf yet X? When are you going to settle down Y? I chime in "Lads, Stay young, single and free as long as you can. Marriage is death for men. There is no benefit any more blah-blah, None of these girls will cook, clean, take care of children or do anything remotely what you want from a wife. The women all laugh nervously. . . If I wasn't a boss I'm sure they'd love to go all out with me about my comments hehehe.

2017-07-18T22:49:58+00:00

You deal with it by outperforming them, snagging all the bonuses and getting promoted or switching to a better job. All while they're stuck in the same place.

Wash, rinse, repeat, be happy.

EMPIRE_OF_THE_CLOUDS · 2017-07-19T00:44:32+00:00

Here are my two cents. You are happy with your life; you are happy with how you live. That is all that matter... that is what makes us MGTOW. We live life the way we each see fit; not the way our family, friends, or society dictate. If you are a true MGTOW, you are free for the rest of your life. No chains. No wife. No plantation. No master.

The issue at work is that you still give a fuck what people think about you. You still care what they say about you, both to your face and behind your back. You must identify why this bothers you, and whether you want it to continue to bother you. Or, if you will become completely indifferent to it... and not give it a second of your time or attention.

Humans seek validation and acceptance from their peers. It is in our DNA to do so, not to mention a healthy dose of brainwashing from society has reinforced this. The key is to truly analyze who you are... and to embrace that identity regardless of your environment or the people within it.

Your coworkers are giving you shit. Maybe its camaraderie, maybe they are jealous, maybe they are assholes and don't like you. It doesn't matter. You have a secret... you are a MGTOW. You know the red-pill truths, and you know how miserable these men are due to their enslavement. Blend in, fly under the radar. Be proud that you can live among them, unseen. And while they give you shit and make fun of you, celebrate internally that you are a free man walking away from the plantation... to live all of your future days as you see fit.

OrionCentauri · 2017-07-19T04:33:41+00:00

Marriage was never made for the purpose of love or any of that shit. It was made to control and has now evolved into a form of domination, with women controlling all the pieces on the board.

Poofysmoof · 2017-07-19T11:58:50+00:00

That's exactly what they want to do. Drag you down to there level, read "The Rationale Male"it explains a lot, I do the audiobook and go through it every so often. You are putting yourself in a great position, besides not getting into responsibilities with women watch your debts. Being so young and with a positive mindset you can build yourself up, gain skills, build your body, grow your mind, start a future plan with retirement in mind. Once you have the confidence in what your doing, instead of criticism you'll get asked for advice.

cheesymold · 2017-07-18T20:32:01+00:00

Living at home is not the way I'd go if you want to learn how to be dependant on yourself but then again housing is so expensive I can't blame people for doing it. I would say other than that people would be envious of your position

mentalidade_logica · 2017-07-18T21:15:57+00:00

It's almost like they try to drag me down to their level...

That is exactly what's happening.

Ask them if they can go fishing or do anything they want at any time they want? Just add well, I can and I like it. Also tell them you do not pry in their personal business and that you would appreciate the same respect.

Dirty_steve_ · 2017-07-18T22:07:30+00:00

Hey dude, I'm 31 and never married. I work in a 100 percent all male field that is currently being invaded by women but that's a different story. I'll tell you that it's rare for me to encounter someone who thinks it's a good idea to get married. If anything everyone tells me not to do it. I don't particularly tell my subordinates not to get married because that's their prerogative, but I definitely tell them to look at how I live my life versus how my peers that are married live theirs. I enjoy my life as it is and I enjoy ONS and maybe an upgrade to FWB. Keys there are to make sure your intentions are clear and don't trust them as far as you can throw em. Make sure they understand that she is one snide comment or remark from never seeing or hearing from you again. Funny thing is they will always come back and it's great to see their reaction when you just laugh right in their faces. Big thing here is to never become emotionally invested in anyone other than yourself and your close friends and family. Don't let someone talk you into getting married. If they try to they don't have your best interest in mind and you should distance yourself.

sumpwa · 2017-07-18T22:16:57+00:00

I have a divorcee at my office tell me I need to get married. SMH

peacejudah · 2017-07-18T22:30:28+00:00

It generally becomes a very hostile environment because those blue pills don't like seeing free slaves.

Eggfacelol · 2017-07-18T22:35:15+00:00

Im in a very similar environment (high pressure engineering role) with a few birds who do planning/admin/finance. There's quite a split between the working class men on the tools and the more educated manager office types, though the split isn't as significant as other fields as there's plenty managers who worked up from the grass roots (like me).

ALL the men are BP cucks, no matter what the background. But nobody has ever enquirer about my life in anything beyond superficial level. Could be that everyone is so busy but literally nobody knows my out of work persona.

MuleTeam · 2017-07-18T23:16:42+00:00

When they suggest you get hooked up, look them right in the eye and say this...

Why? Oh... right,... misery loves company😃

tw-1234a · 2017-07-18T23:49:32+00:00

Anyone else get any shit from co workers about living the way I am?

No. I am 50 but don't remember when the shit stopped. Anyway, it will go away.

Ovendice · 2017-07-19T00:08:43+00:00

Simply email blast all of them this link of marriage statistics from the CDC: http://www.statisticbrain.com/marriage-statistics "First Marriage Survival (Probability of lasting more than 10 years)
Probability that a first marriage will survive 10 years -6.6 % - 1 in 15." That means 94% of marriages end before the 10 year mark, over half of them before even reaching the 3 year mark. And 80% of those divorces are initiated by the female. No.1 reason by women given for wanting a divorce? 'Dissatisfaction,' but we all know it's because she's hooked up with someone else, generally some guy with more $$$.

Keep reminding them over and over that they WILL be getting dumped & divorced, there IS NO 'IF,' JUST WHEN. Then ask them if they have money put away & a place picked out to live for when they kick dumped. When they say that's ridiculous, ask them if they can fucking read what the CDC says & tell them not getting set up for when they get dumped by their wives is as irresponsible as not saving for retirement. Of course if they had any intelligence at all, they wouldn't have gotten married in the first place.

Then remind them that virtually all women cheat on their husbands nowadays. Remind them that right now while they're at work, their wives are fucking someone else and that the presumed fathers in all marriage to over one third of all children born are NOT the real father, but the child of someone the wife was/is fucking around with: http://www.clasp.org/resources-and-publications/publication-1/0111.pdf.

And all states have horrific laws about paternity laws treating it like show kind of fucking GAME SHOW, giving you only a limited amount of years (4 in Texas for example) to petition the court to prove you are not the father of a child that you were told was yours. But if you don't even KNOW, how are you supposed to make the claim?

And then after the 4 years is passed, TOO BAD, you're fucked, because when your wife leaves you (she WILL, remember? 94% of marriages end way before the 10 year mark & it's the woman leaving & women get custody 95% of the time) you'll be forced at gun point to pay $1000 a month in child support for that child that isn't yours until the child is 26 years old or you go to jail.

Then remind them that women have GOD LIKE LEGAL POWER over men in the marital home & YOU have no legal rights AT ALL & can be INSTANTLY EJECTED AND PERMANENTLY FOREVER with nothing more than a 911 call and say, "There is a man here and he won't leave," she doesn't even need to make a false accusation & within 20 minutes there is going to be an entire SWAT team on your front lawn with laser pointers all pointed at you & you'll be lucky if you don't end up dead. Or if you live in an upscale neighborhood, the scenario is you come home and there is a constable in your driveway who hands you a restraining order telling you that you cannot come into your own house- no warning, COMPLETELY out of the blue, it's what MILLIONS of women do & happens everyday, extremely sneaky & 2 faced. And as a result of this over a third of fathers are completely cut off from their children because of falsely accusing piece of shit cunt mothers.

Then remind that women are above the law and that their wife or any woman they live with can murder them at any time and as long as she admits she did it & claims she was 'abused,' she goes scott free and doesn't spend one day in prison and women murder men EVERYDAY and go scott free or only get put on probation. VAWA makes it legal for women to murder men anytime they want with no consequences whatsoever. And then she will collect your life insurance, because that's all women care about anyway: Your money. They're incapable of feeling love for another human being or human empathy or accountability. A COCKROACH has more human traits than a human female.

Examples of women who murdered their husbands & went scott free: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Winkler

http://abc7.com/news/wife-reaches-plea-deal-in-shooting-death-of-former-bell-gardens-mayor/1632685/

529,000 Google Results for 'Wife Murders Husband and Gets Probation:' https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=webhp&source=hp&q=wife+murders+husband+and+gets+probation&oq=wife+murders+husband+and+gets+proba&gs_l=hp.3.0.33i21k1j33i160k1l2.1491.9716.0.11063.31.29.1.0.0.0.120.2541.20j8.28.0....0...1.1.64.hp..2.25.2299.0..0j35i39k1j0i67k1j0i131k1j0i20k1j0i22i30k1j0i22i10i30k1.A6FT_cJIuHU

So living with a woman is THE most dangerous place a man can possibly be. Hell, send them this entire message for a dose of REALITY because they're obviously MORONS. Any man who would be stupid enough to get married today, is mentally retarded, suicidal with low self esteem, completely IGNORANT of LAWS, IGNORANT of what women have become and ignorant of the STATS, ALL of it THE most important information a man could possibly KNOW. So they're COMPLETE LOSERS.

manzone22 · 2017-07-19T03:31:35+00:00

Just change the subject, if they ask me why am not married with kids I would say something "why yes i have been hitting the gym thanks for noticing" after a couple of times this happens they should get the hint

Remember at the end of the day they are co workers not friends so you dont own them shit so you dont need to tell them that you live with your parents, if you have already told them then just ignore them and remember the money you are saving that you can use towards a hobby or savings

Kornstar04 · 2017-07-19T19:09:38+00:00

Mgtow at work? When you're in your 30s, this is life in general. However, as you get older blue Piller pressure won't bug you as much and they will envy you.

Guys can't stand someone who doesn't play by societies expectations, so they will do their best to drag you down. Rise above!

Title	MGTOW in the workplace
Author	peacejudah
Upvotes	47
Comments	52
Date	July 18, 2017 5:16 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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