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Obliterated by the same book.

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August 12, 2019

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Title	Obliterated by the same book.
Author	school-yeeter
Upvotes	956
Comments	75
Date	August 12, 2019 6:00 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/cpg0te/obliterated_by_the_same_book/
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Remember when we were young and thought our parents had it so great because we had to go to school and they held all the authority and seemingly could do whatever they wanted and we'd say things like "I can't wait to be an adult because I can do whatever I want!"?

And when we got our first jobs we could keep every penny and thought it was great....

But we never had to pay any bills and the taxes on our income's were very low because we made shit money so we could make $200/week and thought it was great...

Well, womens think and feel the same way because they are children.

They are the children that look at the toy shelf in kindergarten and choose a toy but then see another child take a different toy and now they want THAT toy. The bully boys would just take it. The bully girls would try to trick the boy into handing it over and when that didn't work they'd cry that they wanted that toy first and a lot of the time the (female) teacher would tell billy that he should just give it to her to be 'nice'.

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In Jesus life and the new testament "teaching" was never a lecture/sermon, it was always interactive with question and answers. If a woman wants to share her personal testimony or prayer that's fine, but in the teaching/logic time only men are allowed to speak because... LOGIC. In 1 Cor 14 it says that any man with the gift of teaching should be able to teach in church-- so why do pastors CONTROL and silence anyone except themselves? Why will you never be allowed to talk about any REAL issues in the church? Read the new testament and you see Jesus and the disciples debated controversial issues CONSTANTLY. But modern pastors exercise ABSOLUTE control over what gets talked about it church because they are the biggest CUCKED white knights on the planet. That's why church is so damn boring. The woman all show up and fantasize about the pastors big dick and these religious leaders get off on that. Modern church is almost entirely about subduing and controlling men and not having honest truthful dialogue. I almost left Christianity until I stepped back and realized that in Jesus life the BIG THEMES are:

Watch out for self-righteous fucks who try to use SHAME to control you (ie nearly all women)
The #1 Bad Guys in the world are always the religious leaders. (they murdered jesus)
The #2 Bad Guys are the government, cuz the religious fucks are gonna get THEM to do their dirty work. Hello family court??? If you are part of a church and your wife decides to fuck you in the family courts, show me a single damn church that will call the woman out. Does. Not. Exist.

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I understand, and thats the average well intentioned thinking.

I use to think like you. Mostly it was TFM that helped me see i was wrong. Although we all have a sense that we are just idealizing it, when we think about that equality. I debated with myself many times this issue.

My conclusion is that, in every society, or group, where you include women, that group and society is surely going to decline. Unless you keep women at bay, and keep all men that are whiteknights and manginas also at bay. Otherwise if you give the same rights to women, because women are born with inherent beauty and value, those quickly become priviledges, exacerbated by an ever increasing gynocentric environment, where simps idolize and worship women at the detriment of good values.

And it would be fine, if they didnt use those priviledges to corrupt and turn men against men. Which i saw happening in all male groups where i was. And its mainly why our society is collapsing today.

This is why tyrants become tyrants, societies become corrupt, and why a free group of men comes from the outside and ultimately destroys these societies for good.

If you dont want to acknowledge the differences of men and women, when it comes to everything, then we cant even have a debate. If you want equality just because equality feels better and looks better on paper. Then we cant have this debate, and i let you win, knowing perfectly well you will lose in the long run. And im proven right.

Nature is sexist, and those who break the laws of nature will pay the price of destruction and death.

The vote and the rights given to women, you would be very naive to think they are for equality. They are not. They exist for control, control of the population. Its no different than wolves giving voice to sheep, to dilute the strenght of others that would be prone to make the right decisions, and fight for freedom.

Women dont have strategic thinking. And are bipolar when it comes to politics. Thats why your political system is bipolar. Most men are voting everytime less, and are utterly demoralized. They know their vote is irrelevant, and it is.

it is by pure chance you were born a male

And thats why this system has been trying to enslave me from day 1. And making me fight against my brothers. And in the war that is coming is my neck that is at stake, while women will just bang the victor.

Women easily corrupt men of high status to climb organizations and exert influence wherever they go, if they want.

They also destroy the motivation of men, and create conflict between men. Turning once meritocratic enterprises infusing them with clientelism and corruption. Then, men leave, and those spaces become toxic and ultimately decline. Then women move on to the next prosperous target. They lack the skills and determination of men, and often use intrigue and manipulation to compensate.

At the same time giving them the vote was never deserved because they didnt fight and will not fight any war. And they didnt evolve biologically to feel the consequences for the irresponsible decisions, and thats why they are not afraid to vote for selfdestructive policies. Whereas man can clearly see the danger quickly.

The vote given to women was nothing but a smart decision by the elites to control the whole population more easily.

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I think equality means that women also have to go to war if men have to.

Nice, but old and very well known to fail idea.

If women go to war, men have to carry them around. Units will have less cohesion. Women will turn battalions into intrigue cesspits, bang the sargeant, then bang the underdog, and turn everyone against everyone. Before you know it, you lose the war, and you will have your own men fighting you, or with low morale. Its an extremelly expensive luxury to send women to war, everyone knows this. Armies that commit that mistake normally degenerate, and desintegrate.

Therefore if women are sent to war along side with men. Its a joke on the men you are sending, because they will have to watch over these women, and these women will be a liability. That will only motivate the enemy, and the enemy will then have a clear advantage over you.

as for voting and all that, as long as our vote count as much as theirs, i think it is fair.

You didnt read or you didnt think through my last comment. So i will just say, read again.

and if they end up outnumbering us then nothing stops us from moving to another country.

Thats what is happening right now, and will happen more in the future. Similar to soviet union. Take the Khazaks to Siberia. And the Siberians to Khazakistan. Take the Ukrainians to somewhere else, and someone else from somewhere else to Ukraine. Just an example.

as for women manipulating men, I think it is partially the fault of the men themselves for falling for it

It is. So dont let yourself fall for it. And dont be surprised if you are then held accountable for accepting the terms of fake equality by other men. Because we only need a few men like you being passive to that, for such things to happen. Nobody here believes women are the problem, we all know that those that enable this system are men. The only problem is that the other half of good men despite knowing the truth, are going full pop corn, and want to see your society burn, because they know any argument won't convince you. Like i said before, i will let you win, and i will wait. And when shit hits the fan, and you do the pikachu face, i will remind you why. Its irrelevant for us minority men who are redpilled to do anything at this point. We have to let society collapse, to teach a lesson again to the future generations, as it happened in the past in all empires. Religion is nothing but the oral tradition registered after many of such events happened.

I would like you to explain them to me if it isn't too much trouble: the point about giving women the right to vote to control the population and point about beauty and value being a privilege exclusive to women.

No problem. Just tell me exactly what you didnt understand because i dont want to repeat myself. My explanation is very clear and with examples and metaphors, everyone here would understand it. But tell me specifically what you want me to elaborate more, and i will try to help you.

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That fairy tale was necessary lie. Religions do it too, albeit under strict conditions. Also that fairy tale closely resembles reality under strict conditions. So its more like idealized version, not exactly fairy tale. It used to happen when everyone knew their roles and consequences. But we mixed everything up (no roles, no true consequences because we shift the consequences to the taxpayers) and I don't understand how anyone is surprised at whats going on. Its ONLY natural.

We aren't doing something special, we are just doing what thousands of smart men across history warned us not to do. We do it anyway (as true feminized society) and now we suffer the consequences. That will always result in degeneracy as it happens now.

Enjoy the decline, I can't see this world improving itself as is.

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