The difference between Red Pill and MGTOW

ru-Alex · 2017-01-24T15:16:52+00:00

Please distinguish Red pill as metaphor from theredpill subreddit. The redpill subreddit is rebranded pua.

While the metaphor is about knowledge and awareness only.

Folwart · 2017-01-24T15:03:59+00:00

Those red pill dudes can't even control themselves half the time.

geocitiesuser · 2017-01-24T15:25:15+00:00

TRP is the male version of the hamster wheel. "Just lift weights brah. Just never break frame brah" so ridiculous. Yes, dance for your masters?

Paladin2903 · 2017-01-24T17:41:20+00:00

A guy can be as "alpha" as he wants -- become some uber "Alpha-Alpha" in his own mind or wherever -- ain't gonna do a shittin' bit of good against a VAWA DV accusation (in fact the "alpha" pose is likely to work against him) -- nor will it gain him anything positive in the resulting divorce and/or family court "custody" & property-division/child-support battle.

-- In fact, rather ironically, the more "alpha" a guy is -- i.e. higher status, income, more involved in business/investments, etc -- well his probability of obtaining custody is lower (because he's NOT going to be seen as "domestic" or "nurturing" -- i.e. the "best interests of the child" standard); and instead he's going to be seen more as a "work horse" (aka a proverbial "beast of burden" -- or a walking "wallet") -- which means he's likely to get screwed even WORSE in terms of alimony and child-support.

-- Plus the whole "alpha" mindset is about displaying status and creating the appearance of wealth -- which generally means a highly leverage "lifestyle" (big McMansion house, brand new cars for him & her while married, etc etc) -- and divorce courts/family courts will then determine that the wife/kids have become "accustomed" to a certain (high) level of lifestyle, which they are (per the court's "logic" if it can be called that) "entitled" to continue to have post divorce... ergo the "alpha" gets divorce-raped far worse than the average "beta" dude does.

-- Really all they're doing is setting themselves up as "perfect targets" and "deep pockets" for the divorce industry lawyers.

Benny757 · 2017-01-24T16:48:17+00:00

Red Pill is men trying to figure women out. MGTOW is about men choosing to not have to figure women out. The aspects of relationship and sexual strategy become completely irrelevant, thus women have absolutely no power whatsoever over MGTOW men.

andreas-mgtow · 2017-01-24T21:22:35+00:00

TRP = handing power over your identity and self esteem to women. If they want to hook up with you, you are alpha. Otherwise you are a garbage and a failure at life. Basically slavery.

MGTOW = make up your own rules and live your own life. If sex happens, great, but don't reinvent yourself as somebody's Tinder fuckboy.

GetrichonIMP · 2017-01-24T16:44:31+00:00

It's a rediculous sub, I posted their with these exact contradictions, guess what. BANNNNNNED. It's sexual strategy only... don't go off topic and realize you're a puppet to getting your dick wet and focusing on having a balanced life! WE'LL BAN YOU or have young 20 something know it alls down voting your ass down because you're not a pussyhound. I'm going to bet that most redpillers will figure out that they need to stop with this ideology. Whenever I hear someone bragging about spinning plates, I think to myself how much TIME they are wasting for a 10 seconds seretonin thrill. I'd rather do psilocybin have that for 4 hours straight and be introspective and creative.

T0000009 · 2017-01-24T16:38:48+00:00

The MRM are aboard the USS Missouri trying to negotiate their surrender, while TRP is continuing the engagement in a war they cant win, and the MGTOW have walked off the battlefield to become mercenaries.

gonzotw · 2017-01-24T19:17:54+00:00

As much as they want to claim otherwise, they still worship pussy.

peterson2004 · 2017-01-24T20:36:06+00:00

What is the point of picking fights with your brothers over labels? Nowhere do they advocate control of women, just yourself.

gods_bones · 2017-01-24T15:52:25+00:00

Let's see how alpha /r/TheRedPill can be to the judge sentencing them to pay child support when the cunt pokes a hole in his condom after telling him she can't get pregnant.

belhaj7 · 2017-01-24T15:11:01+00:00

Can someone tell me that a homeless fat short man without money can get laid with holding frame and showing alphaness? /no offense to the guy. He is used as an example

Bartand · 2017-01-24T15:00:55+00:00

True.

squidracer · 2017-01-24T15:55:08+00:00

And to a point you can. The man can have total control.

Until he gets married or knocks a girl up

maximumthrill · 2017-01-24T19:06:49+00:00

Red pill are looking for revenge and fighting some kind of gender war.

MGTOW are just looking to be left alone

Morb357 · 2017-01-24T22:16:16+00:00

Be yourself. Today's woman will never find you good enough no matter what you are/do, or how you look/act. Walk away and preserve your self respect and integrity--two things in short supply these days and maybe the most valuable.

scouse_till_idie · 2017-01-24T23:16:20+00:00

TRP is nothing more than a coping mechanism for men who know the game is rigged but still want to play and they convince themselves through all that brah talk that actually they run the casino and that because they believe this it's somehow ok to waste copious time/money/effort all for women.

TRP is basically just one big mindfuck for men in denial, a necessary phase for some but many become lost and will forever be stuck on the barbwire of the plantation.

letsriseup · 2017-01-25T02:42:28+00:00

Inner Game: MGTOW >>> Red Pill

Mental Freedom: MGTOW >>> Red Pill

This is not even a question for me.

I've tried both for extensive periods of time and MGTOW BY FAR offers the STRONGEST INNER GAME + MENTAL FREEDOM than any other mindset for a male.

MGTOW is pretty much the GOAT + HIGHEST ECHELON of "inner game" or mental freedom you can attain.

For fun, I've even went out to pick up girls after having gone MGTOW and you really DON'T GIVE A FUK about "rejection" (is it even that now?) because you simply instantaneously go RIGHT BACK to your MGTOW life of not giving a fuk about what others think about you and head home happily to play a videogame or 2 and sleep like a baby.

Without MGTOW, I always felt a pang of ego hurt after "rejections" (even more intense when I was just starting out), but after MGTOW I couldn't care less.

All the girls' faces become a blur to me and my thoughts are dominated by my longterm goals.

There is no point in learning about inner game from a red piller. The most basic MGTOW can completely outclass an advanced red piller when it comes to inner game/not giving a fuk + mental freedom.

The__Tren__Train · 2017-01-24T20:59:26+00:00

difference between mgtow and red pill

mgtow: stay away from women regardless, never marry

redpill: self-improvement, have sex with women who are down, never marry.

ThrowawayCArtist · 2017-01-25T03:10:21+00:00

Redpill is the illusion of control.

MGTOW is self control.

gonzo_swag · 2017-01-25T05:22:05+00:00

I haven't been to TRP in a while. I'm real lucky since I don't have much sexual desire at all (a gigantic blessing imo). It feels weird and kindof sad to hear all these guys' strategies to get laid. Back when I was pretending to care I got more than I wanted, now that I won't deal with all the shit that comes along with women, all these strategies and schemes, time, money and energy make me feel bad for these guys.

I've never met an 'alpha' in person, either, but they're all over the place bragging about shit online.

nigelh · 2017-01-25T13:06:33+00:00

TRP: The plan for tonight.

MGTOW: The plan for the rest of my life.

chasingsnow · 2017-01-25T16:19:42+00:00

just wrote about this here. women see MGTOW as red-pill and want you more. never share MGTOW with women, just makes them even wetter. I don't want to control women, you can't control women, just make their childish logic act out and maybe get a one night stand until she gets bored of you. MGTOW for life.

hardlifeman · 2017-01-24T17:03:52+00:00

And yet, the men at The Red Pill regularly have much more intelligent, insightful, expansive (in scope and application), constructive, and substantial things to say than most everyone here at MGTOW - even in regard to GOING YOUR OWN WAY.

The difference between Red Pill and MGTOW

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-- And? Feral dogs can (and do) "get laid."

Title	The difference between Red Pill and MGTOW
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Date	January 24, 2017 2:56 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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