Why were relationships in the 1950s so consistent? Why was the nuclear family so bonded in the past, but in a complete abysmal state now? We can say well, "Feminism" or something similar, but it all boils down to one simple principle: Leverage.
Leverage in a general sense is the ability to bargain to get your needs met. For example, if you were the ONLY employee that specializes in what your company needs, and there are no easy replacement candidates, you have leverage. With leverage, you can make demands or expect certain needs to be met. Your boss is more likely to hear your needs and meet them because it's preferable to the suffering of having to find a new candidate.
The problem with modern relationships is that women have all the leverage and men, generally speaking, have none. If you're dating a woman who's even remotely attractive(6+), she can find a replacement for you within days (or minutes). All she has to do is go on Tinder and send 10 messages in 30 seconds asking for dick and she will get every single one delivered that day. In fact unlike the boss analogy above, finding a new candidate is hassle free and probably easier than conforming to any demands you might have.
The severe lack of leverage you have bleeds through in your ability to bargain in relationships. Lots of men on "PUA" or "Red Pill" sites say "Threaten to walk away from her, that'll do it". Yes, I'm sure she is terrified of you walking away. Who knows when she'll meet another guy? Could be years! Or like we said earlier, seconds with virtually zero effort and investment. Maybe she will meet your demands (leverage) if she is emotionally connected to you and has low self-esteem, but that will only be temporary until she monkey branches. (because the energy of meeting any demand on her will eventually exhaust her).
You have no leverage in dating if the woman has any degree of above average attractiveness and uses social media.
Now if you get married, you once again have no leverage, and even negative leverage. Yeah lets use that game of leverage again. Wife cheating on you? Threaten to leave her! Oh wait, if you leave her she wins. You make a threat in which she gets half of your shit, your kids and gets to bang chad guilt free now while you move into your shitty studio apartment. OR stay with her and she fucks chad anyway and you live a life with zero self respect and drink yourself to sleep at night. OR ask her nicely to stop cheating, but when she realizes she can do it anyway with gaining benefits, why would she stop?
All it comes down to is that men have NO leverage. Relationships in the 50's worked because men had leverage. I.E women were shamed for slutting and getting divorced (leverage). Women didn't get big cash and prizes (leverage). What leverage do men have? The only leverage is not getting involved other than a few bangs here and there.
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Exactly. There is zero incentive in our society for women to act like adults.
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Money is leverage for the women parent poster was referring to.
Don't project onto women your desires as a man. Most 35 year old women don't want dick. Nor are they going to jump from Tinder date to Tinder date for only free drinks and meals that their friends won't know about. They want status and bragging rights within their own peer group.
You're right that women don't need a man's money to feed and clothe them like they may have in the past, but most women do not make great money. So they all want the successful guy who will take them to fancy dinners, exotic trips, buy them purses and flowers, etc. This is where money really does provide leverage, especially with older women who are past the bad boy / party stage.
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Your right. Getting cock is easy for women. So are free drinks, meals, etc with online dating apps.
But older women past the party stage definitely do want a guy with money and status who will commit.
This is why it it is so hard for younger guys in their 20s. You have nothing to trade.
As a single guy in my 30s, I have a much easier time. Women know that as a single guy with no kids nor alimony, nor child support, and a good job, my commitment would be worth a ton in show off credit amongst their peers. They could get the big wedding, ring, house, and dream life in the suburbs.
I can trade this possibility or fantasy to them for sex, at least for a few months till they realize I'm not interested in giving up my leverage for a 37 year old former CC rider who would provide me nothing in exchange once she had cleaned me out.
But having money and status definitely is what a guy my age needs. Younger guys need to be Chad, unfortunately.
Or if you don't want to play the game, go your own way and ignore women. Your choice.
Edit: for the women who lurk: hate the game, not the player. Just like you, I'm looking for my rom-com princess as promised by Disney. But I play the hand I'm dealt. Based on the rules we've got, it's apparent they don't want us breeding. Don't know why....
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This makes me very sad.
What's the point of marriage or relationships? Like seriously. It's a very bad deal for men
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He does have leverage in certain cases. I know for a fact I have huge amounts of leverage with the older (30s) women I date.
For them, it's not about getting laid or getting a free meal; most women can get with ease, Tinder or now. Bars with lots of men have always existed.
But if the parent commenter has high status - good job, salary, decent looks, etc. and his GF is locking to lock him down, his ability to walk is big leverage.
Women that are past the CC need a guy for their dream wedding, ring, house, kids, and providership. In their late 20s, when all their friends are looking down guys, thwy beginner panic. The competition is fierce.
Women know that their looks will fade, and if OP takes off, they have to start all over with finding another guy good enough to provide as much as her friends' partners. It gets harder the older they get. This is a huge problem and is why women are so adamant about moving forward, always forward, in a relationship.
Once they realize a guy is MGTOW and won't commit for the long term, they are gone without a feeling in the world. I have seen it myself and the way they just got over me so shortly was a bit of a shock to my ego. But AWALT.
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