This guy gets it

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If you want to know who's in charge, notice who you can't criticize

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I doubt r/MGTOW has a lot of die hard religious people. For example I'm a conservative but I'm agnostic. As for casual sex, it wasn't looked down upon until recent years. The problem is that women's standards have rose to insanely high amounts. So all of these "sluts" are sleeping with a select group of men. It's the truth. That coupled with feminist slut culture that's plaguing the Western female brain creates rage-based echo-chambers (and rightfully so) such as this sub. I'm not trashing this sub either. This sub drops LOADS of red pills and saves many men from lifestyle traps such as marriage. Western society is changing (for the worst imo). There is an increasing divide in race, gender, religion, politics, etc. Decrease of the middle class, increase of mental illness. Humans are such a flawed species in such a flawed world so that's why I disagree that "we are made in the image of God". Very unorganized ramble but I can't help it, I took an addy for the lulz.

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Then you'd also know why sex isn't as much of a big deal to women as it is for men. Evolutionarily speaking, it would only makes sense for women to have sex once a month (when she's fertile). They've got the hormone estrogen that lowers sex drive significantly in comparison to testosterone.

So if we are so different, and we should all acknowledge the biological and evolutionary differences, then why are incels still not coming to terms with the biological and evolutionary differences?

I thought MGTOW were one such community that was fine with keeping to themselves and living peaceful, respectful lives. But almost every other post here is about women still. Is we very little community posts about men helping each other out and empowering each other for not letting themselves be bothered by females. That's what this was supposed to be. I only ever upvote posts that has no mentions of women.

Instead it's just an excuse to continue being triggered by and obsessing over women, just in a different way.

I don't think either gender is very mindful of each others biology.

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You make it sound like it's a matter of just taking care of your appearance. Which most decent people do anyways.

You'd be surprised at how differently people treat you if you do your hair, stay active, take care of your skin, shower regularly and being nice to people in general.

This is what a lot of girls do anyways + makeup. Even fat girls usually comb their hair and put some makeup on. You can't expect people to want to be around you, let alone be intimate with you if you don't take care of yourself and make an effort. But at the end of the day, how you act and treat other people creates the biggest impact.

No one is forcing you to be fat or looking your worst. There are things you can do to improve your situation.

I'm not saying just taking care of your appearance fixes all your problems, but it's a step in the right direction. Maybe talk to someone about your problems next.

Success unfortunately has something to do with attitude as well. If your goal of taking care of yourself is to just get laid, you'll probably not be happy anyways. You've improved yourself for all the wrong reasons. MGTOW are supposed to be men who wants to find happiness within themselves without the help of women in their lives. They are the men who are supposed to improve themselves for themselves, and not for someone else. Instead, almost all you see in this sub is men getting triggered, being hung up on and bitching about women. I'm not saying women shouldn't be bitched at, but it contradicts what MGTOW is supposed to be about.

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I understand what you're getting at and I agree with you.

You must try to understand MGTOWs are human too in the sense that, although we staunchly fight our nature to protect ourselves from the easily perceived imbalances in interpersonal relationships (legally or otherwise), our nature remains until we essentially die; we cannot change the fact that half of the population is female. I agree that a significant number of MGTOWs employ a strict focus on the shady side of female nature to facilitate the mental gymnastics required to fight their own instincts, and develop great self-control, self-respect and acquire a sense of dignity in the process. It is also worth mentioning that the reason for such a focus on the darker sides of feminine nature, is that today, this destructive side is not even acknowledged for what it is. Today in the West, this side of femininity is not only protected, taught, and celebrated, but it is also enforced by our laws; I don't have to go into detail here.

I am trying hard to defend my MGTOW brothers, even those that seem extreme, because it only takes a bit of broad cross-examination to find the disparity in the treatment of the detrimental sides of both masculine and feminine nature, is obscenely vast. It's all too easy to empathize and even rationalize with even those whom I seriously disagree with. Make no mistake, there is a ruinous side to masculine nature, no one here is denying that.

We are constantly bombarded with this knowledge; day in, day out. From commercials, to politics, daily interactions, even our legal system makes us out as pariahs. There is nowhere near the same focus on the feminine side. "Toxic masculinity" is becoming such a household name to the point where it now, in the minds of far too many, is synonymous with healthy masculinity; the distinction between the two has faded to points where it is so often suggested to just do away with masculinity altogether. I could keep going... But I think you get my point here.

A lot of MGTOW, including my 23 year old self, did not set out to be so by default. A lot of us just found solace and power in the philosophy, as well as some support in the community. Do not mistake this by thinking we agree on absolutely everything. We are not drones. I always try to spread the idea that the Red Pill doesn't dictate how to use or apply the knowledge it comes with, and therefore, neither does the MGTOW philosophy. This is why it is conveyed as more of a philosophy than a movement.

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Hold on, why can’t you have sex anymore? Like 20% of people have HSV2 and 80% have herp type HSV 1 by the time they’re mid life. Transmission rates are very low with condoms plus meds. A huge fear of mine is getting the herp and I know this shit inside out lol. Scary thing is 80% that have genital herpes don’t know it Bc they’re asymptomatic or think it’s something else. Blowjobs without a condom? That’s a great way to get HSV 1 on your dick. People need to be aware

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They like sex with 99 and cheat on every single one of them.

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It never was normal for women to have just a couple partners. There's no real virginity test and teenagers have always slept around even in controlled societies. People are just quiet about it in more conservative cultures. AWALT, everywhere, no exceptions.

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Jesus you are one pathetic creature if I ever saw one. Rat that's drowning in it's own piss geniuenly has more to contribute to society than you do. You're just subscribed to mgtow sub to just to hate on it for sake of hating on it and to downvote. Nobody cares about internet points here dumbass, they are too busy losing half of their belongins because of some bitch that wants only money. You know who else goes on other subs/channels online just to give a dislike/downvote? Children. You're a manchild (if you are after puberty, and I doubt that) who wants to be heard, but isn't being listened to by anyone. And I find it funny, because we aren't saying all women should be raped or killed, we just say to leave them alone, and you find that so outrageous you have to waste your time online here? Change or cease.

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If this is a real contributing factor, then shouldn’t we be telling woman to get regularly tested since abstinence only sex education has proven to be ineffective?

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Title	This guy gets it
Author	shadowcel
Upvotes	2940
Comments	166
Date	March 25, 2019 12:43 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/b5a7vc/this_guy_gets_it/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/this-guy-gets-it.492898 https://theredarchive.com/post/492898

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