Trad-con infiltration?

footloosemonk · 2018-09-20T13:31:49+00:00

So they are saying, men must fight to go back to those times when they were applauded for being the best slave in the plantation.

Riiight?

betterredthenwed · 2018-09-20T13:33:17+00:00

I think MOST MGTOW would acknowledge that the pros of a women can outweigh the cons if/when the state doesn't step in and side exclusively with the women.

Down vote me if you will, but I would have absolutely no problem marrying a women who bears my many children, has dinner ready in the evening, keeps the house, and is faithful. The problem is that finding one of those women is one in 500 billion today. Back when society would absolutely shame and condemn a women who cheats, it was another thing.

If you want all the "MGTOW" who would be glad to have a good/loyal wife if it were possible to leave, you'd be left with maybe 1000 subscribers to this sub. For the vast majority of people here, I believe, MGTOW is only the natural response to the gynocyntric world we live in, and the nature of women when they are left 'unchecked' (for lack of a better word).

ZedFour_S23 · 2018-09-20T14:18:43+00:00

I would love for it to be the 50s. But that’s more because cars looked better, everything was classier and frankie and dino were in their prime.

TheRabbitTunnel · 2018-09-20T14:52:08+00:00

And NO!, MGTOW is not about choosing whatever you want

Very important point there. Ive seen people say bullshit along the lines of "its men going their own way, you do whatever you want as a mgtow, including marriage."

No, not even close. MGTOW was founded as an ideology that is strictly against marriage and LTRs. Some men in LTRs consider them mgtow, because theyll never get married, but even that is stretching it.

The principle of mgtow is "enough of this relationship bullshit. Its my life to do what I want, not cater to a woman."

As long as you arent in an LTR/marriage, do whatever the hell you want. Thats MGTOW.

CiceroVoltaire · 2018-09-20T14:29:48+00:00

nostalgia is one thing; having misconceptions about the past is another.

If I found a unicorn, I'd have a relationship and marry again. However, I realize unicorns don't exist, ergo...

SmamelessMe · 2018-09-20T17:14:17+00:00

You cant be a mgtow and a feminsit, you can't be a mgtow and tradcon.

From side bar:

We are men going our own way by forging our own identities and paths to self-defined success; cutting through collective ideas of what a man is.

That means no gate keeping. Nor Feminists, nor women, nor you, get to decide how I live my life.

NordHamsteri · 2018-09-20T18:41:44+00:00

Im pro tradcon but went mgtow anyway because its a minefield. The system crashes if peeps stop having kids.

manifesto18 · 2018-09-20T19:21:26+00:00

Just labels...

DrFeelFantastic · 2018-09-20T13:54:19+00:00

Lol. U wot, m8? This is men going THEIR OWN way. I think it's you that's struggling with the definition. I'll give you the wee tip that no matter what you think it means, it doesn't mean we are all going kaczan3's way, not now, nor ever.

Personally, I happen to agree with you in that the Leave It To Braver type lifestyle people think of when they think of the time period to be largely fictional, partly people looking back with rose tinted glasses. Again, personally, I think relationships were presented the way they were for the sake of reconditioning men who had found a better lifestyle than they had before the war, while they were at war and were living in male only spaces with great comradery.

Still though, my problems are with the nurture of women and not their nature and I assume most men here feel the same. We are varying levels of angry, bitter, disillusioned, and some of us even accepting of women and how they've been in our lives and are here to connect with others who feel the same. What you're describing though sounds more like asexuality.

retal1ator · 2018-09-20T21:41:30+00:00

It's not a tradcon infiltration, it's just common sense rising above the sea of chronic pain caused by the current extreme gynocentric society.

MGTOW is a logical response to an environment completely anti-male, however if you take away all the artificial feminist laws and privilege I believe relationship with women would be worthwhile, if not for companionship at least it would be worth it for having kids.

Do you think women would really be the same self-centered, hypergamic, criminal monsters they are today if there were no stupid alimony, child support, etc?

In today's environment we don't have natural relationship, men are practically stripped down from their most bargain chip: the power to walk away. At this is the root of all of this evil! We lost all our rights, so MGTOW or MRA or whatever the fuck you wanna call it, it's just logical to wish for men to have back some rights and options.

Remove all those artificial privileges women have now and you will have:

*Women will need to be or at a least try to appear good people, not like today.

*Men would have back a lot of power, and we won't be nagged to death at the fear of divorce like today.

*It could be possible to raise children properly, with father having more decision power.

*If marriages or relationships fails then the man is not divorceraped by the state and will keep his money and sanity.

I don't say we have to go back to men working like mules for their families, I just want men to have OPTIONS. By saying I want men to have their natural rights back that does not mean I want to worship women, it's just a logical request!

MGTOW EXISTS BECAUSE MEN HAVE SEEN ALL THEIR NATURAL RIGHTS STRIPPED DOWN!

balancedben · 2018-09-21T02:51:21+00:00

There's lots of tradcons here trying to sabotage mgtow and bring it into their fold as if they're the solution to the libtards ..... which they're not.

Booshank25 · 2018-09-20T14:29:39+00:00

I agree, many, perhaps the majority here, are pretenders.

kaczan3 · 2018-09-20T19:32:50+00:00

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I-am-the-lul · 2018-09-21T10:54:47+00:00

The main reason being a tradcons is a terrible idea is that they are utterly unwilling to call women on their shit and instead just expect men to sacrifice themselves to the alter of marriage even though they have no authority whatsoever.

They need to understand two things:

Responsibility - Authority = Slavery/Scapegoat
Women are not the virtuous angels they seem to think they are.

nigelh · 2018-09-20T15:37:45+00:00

I think our three founding concepts are AWALT, the inevitability of the failure of a LTR and the fact that the legal system will not support you even if natural justice does.

So we go and do our own thing. In reddit terms we are the cat that needs a boat.

Title	Trad-con infiltration?
Author	kaczan3
Upvotes	51
Comments	50
Date	September 20, 2018 1:19 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/9hf8gw/tradcon_infiltration/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/trad-con-infiltration.489166 https://theredarchive.com/post/489166

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