Women put zero effort into mating

Methodless · 2016-09-25T01:16:36+00:00

Because they get away with it.

When I am conversing with anybody, male or female, as soon as I get 2 answers which don't further the conversation, I end it. I'm not here to chase you.

R_BirthStrike · 2016-09-25T06:46:00+00:00

That's because so many men are enablers, allowing women to get away with shitty behavior because they are thirsty for pussy.

It's as simple as that.

whatwhatinthebutt19 · 2016-09-25T05:15:47+00:00

The juice isn't worth the squeeze.

JStheHammer · 2016-09-25T01:00:40+00:00

When I was still dating, the man had to do all the work.

You are spot on.

MaterialMaverick · 2016-09-25T03:16:35+00:00

Social media and online dating is the catalyst for their laziness.

victor_knight · 2016-09-25T07:05:28+00:00

Because women, unlike men, do not buy into modern-day romantic BS between men and women. Maybe it's their DNA which tells them in no uncertain terms that when a man approaches you, he is looking to get into your panties. There's no other reason he would be interested in talking to you because as a woman, you're pretty much useless to him beyond that. So make him work for it.

BoyWhoreWithASword · 2016-09-25T02:24:25+00:00

They don't have to. Get over it.

Klimthourglass · 2016-09-25T03:28:55+00:00

Ok you got it. They aren't a prize. Now what will you do with the knowledge?

mgtowideas · 2016-09-25T06:03:50+00:00

Well, I partly disagree....

What you say is often the norm, but as a guy who many women find attractive (a lot of girls think I'm cute, some have called me hot, or even other terms that men are often not called like beautiful from foreign women), I have had them work quite hard for my affections.

Yes, what you say is often the norm, but it has been a bit different for me.

You would be surprised how many girls find it hard to get laid... Even when they try and beg for it.

I have hard girls make the first move, encourage me to have sex with them, beg me to allow them to suck me off as I denied them, buy me things, make plans,

Try to hold the conversation when I deliberately or incidentally didn't.... I get girls, hot ones, approaching me and asking me home right off the bat, others I approached for future set ups have tried and some did convince me to go home with them after trying fairly hard,

even had girls try to force me to go with them or even attempt to force me to have sex (attempt to rape, not that they could, they are so weak It was like brushing off a fly)

I never have been on a real date as I view it, I mean, I guess that depends on how you look at a date, but I never been out on a date as I would think of one. (the standard affair from TV or some older persons recounting) But I have had girls invite me out to lunch and dinner, but they payed for themselves, and they asked me to go out to eat, and I made sure to demand an open declaration on if they expected me to pay for them. "You don't expect me to pay for you, do you?" "no no no, ill pay for myself" "OK then"

I have had girls buy me bud, beer, cigs, cloths, food, drinks, they offered, often times soon after meeting them or as soon as I met them.

Girls have always been willing to have sex with me, and did most of the work, most of the girls I had sex with initiated it with me, even when they had boyfriends, only a few girls I had sex with was I the initiator, as well as most of the girls I knew started the conversation with me.

I have experienced much the opposite of what you are saying, but I do admit I am lucky, despite being rather skinny, or even scrawny, and a bit of an introverted video game player, with some nerdy interests, girls find me attractive, and I seem to emanate some "energy" or something that has always attracted them to me, and often garnered lots of compliments or attention. Funny, I still have a hard time wrapping my head around it and why that is. I am kinda a hybrid, between computer nerd and ghetto born and raised, add that to being smart, lucky, and respectable looks, and I guess I got the good end of the stick. Hard to wrap my head around it, I feel like I got some kind of energy radiating out of me.

I do admit, what you said seems to be the norm, but just remember it does not always go that way, sometimes it is the opposite, and you don't have to be rich or famous, you can just be a "dude" and be kinda cute and have this happen, I guess some luck and the energy you emit might come into play also.

I recommend guys pay close attention, guys get hit on more often then they realize, but women are cowards, and too much of a wimp to be as obvious and direct as men, at least most of the time.

You might find, if you look back into your memory, that you might have had girls hitting on you, even if you didn't realize it at the time, and they were just wimps, and tend to be cowards, so they were not very direct. Of course some of the more gutsy/Horney ones are very direct and will start the hook up or sex and be the initiator.

I do agree women think they are worth more then they are, and often have princess syndrome, any excuse they can make to be parasites or beg for pity or table scraps is something they tend to want to do as the inferior gender. They are like children, who happen to be in adult bodies and prostitute-like.

Women remind me of a immature infant like child, in the body of a sex object, who is desperate to be a prostitute or better yet a pure leech or parasite.

BUT, just remember not all are like that, and more and more women are stopping this trend, partly on their own, partly due to pressure from men. Also remember that sometimes it is the guy who gets chassed and has prince syndrome, I sure view myself like you often see hot girls view themselves, better yet I know my value is long term, looking young for my age, getting smarter, and learning how to manipulate girls to my whim is improving my game big-time... Heck, I wonder how it would be if I got myself a really cool looking car, I would bet that would help me have girls wrapped around me little finger like Wh-oo-a!

TLDR?

What you say is usually true, and some women are rather pathetic, and most are worthless except for sex, but remember, sometimes the genders are reversed. And women will capitulate on their own, or when I tell them they need to if they want me, and that just makes them want me more. Sometimes girls do all the work and the guy does none, and the girl still does not get laid. I have hard girls work rather hard to impress me, beg me to have sexual encounters, and still denied them just cuz I didn't feel like it at the moment or thought I could do better later on that night or the next day or w/e. But I do agree that girls are often like that, just remember sometimes it can be the reverse situation.

Klimthourglass · 2016-09-25T03:34:18+00:00

The good news is most men didn't even realize this was a problem until recently.

Thinkpadoutlaw · 2016-09-25T09:21:08+00:00

"What are you doing tonight" ....Should be..... "Do you want to race ponies tonight?" "Are you going to said (event) tonight?" ...basically something unusual that you will get a kick out of asking, even if she doesn't answer. Surprisingly she will be so interested, she won't shut up. This also works on weak males. It's pure Comedy Central.

Mix non contextual and contextual questions. If it's genuinely done, it can make any situation enjoyable for yourself or conversation partner. Either they answer the contextual and you ask a non contextual to liven it up, or you initially ask a non contextual then follow up with a contextual.

"How do you feel?" Followed by , " Do you like long grain rice?" Or something like ,"Do you notice of the mood of Sportscenter changed after the death of Stuart Scott?"..

As my international "urban" brethren say," Have fun with them Hoes".

johndoez35 · 2016-09-25T05:02:39+00:00

I enjoy talking to women if I'm going to learn something new. This invariably means talking to women from a different country, as I can ask them about where they live, what to see if I ever visited, etc. Some women can suddenly become rather patriotic and even more traditionalist for a few moments when thinking of their homeland, as if for a small number of seconds, feminism had never been invented...but the moment never lasts long, alas.

TheOMGeffect · 2016-09-25T04:22:15+00:00

Well it's just soooo much work to be interested in things.

T0000009 · 2016-09-25T04:44:09+00:00

The concept of effort and investment is totally foreign to women, just like honesty or any other male trait they are never forced to experience or utilize.

The ONLY trait they have is manipulation, weather it's how they look, act, or what they say it's all a phony ruse to convince men to give them a free ride. All the hard luck stories, the crying, or whatever else they toss out is a charade to hook you. It's the bait before the switch and once they know you are wise to the con they get really pissed and stomp off in a huff with some parting shot about how you are the problem.

Nizz0matic · 2016-09-25T05:23:13+00:00

men enforce it and are as much to blame though. obviously not MGTOW men but regular blue pill men, shower pussy with affection and attention for 0 effort from the woman, hence why they grow up so entitled.

AurelianWay · 2016-09-25T13:35:15+00:00

It basically boils down to the physical aspect of sex itself. A women can just lie there, put a bit of lube in her vag or ass, exaggerate some moans & pretend to orgasm. How the fuck do you think these young gold diggers put up with rich husbands that have one foot in the grave.

If a rich fugly 50 something woman wanted me to fuck her good, how would i be physically able to get aroused by that hambeast??

Moral of the story: Women put little effort into mating because they don't have to. I agree with the comments that a good looking guy has to jump through less hoops. Putting exceptions aside though, how many girls do you think would be happy just giving a guy a blowjob?

oldredder · 2016-09-25T07:57:06+00:00

I've seen the opposite happen but on average women still put in less effort largely because most men don't require much effort. They won't change on this.

I see no reason to be bothered by this. If the concept is new to you and you don't understand the evolutionary and psychological underpinnings, the root causes, I'd be no more than a little pissed at not understanding. Then learn it. Then having learned I would no longer be bothered.

blue_magoo_62 · 2016-09-25T11:45:07+00:00

if you were what they wanted (usually rich handsome and muscled) they would be asking you. but dont worry they dont ask me either. dont talk to them. one word answers if at all.

mgtowthrow66 · 2016-09-25T12:56:51+00:00

a woman's effort into a relationship is looking attractive, that's it. And u can see with American woman how many of them are failing at that.

mordanus · 2016-09-25T15:02:02+00:00

That's because they aren't attracted to you the way you are to them. If you get the right guy they will put a shit ton of effort into making him happy but most guys will never feel that because women have insanely high standards of what makes them attracted. Most of the time they just settle for whatever guy is willing to put in the most effort so they can milk him dry.

Zombocom1911 · 2016-09-25T07:44:52+00:00

It's totally one sided because of female entitlement (even in this age of supposed equality). Judge not lest ye be judged, bitches.

johnbanksxxx · 2016-09-25T11:36:58+00:00

Sure they have real identity. It's whatever the last hashtag they used was.

cashmoney_x · 2016-09-25T11:45:36+00:00

Eh, sort of. When they are actually interested (you are perceived as higher value than they) they actually come to life a bit. But it's temporary. LTR's even with chads go down the same predictable route.

theeverywhereman · 2016-09-25T14:56:06+00:00

Eventually you get to the point I am at where you just blatantly call out women when they are being shirty. That or you just don't give a fuck enough to talk to them in first place.

2016-09-25T11:55:22+00:00

Shit bothers me.

Yeah... I do not like it being women choosing men. And men having to impress them to be let in. I am not fine with it.

purgatoryguy · 2016-09-25T12:34:27+00:00

haha I was exactly like this (and still am, I think women should do better here definitely)... I can even link you to some of my online rants about it a couple of years ago.

I think women take the minimum amount of social risks in dating because of course women are still brought up to be complacent on this issue. This is why guys with social quirks like social anxiety or some form of shyness really struggle with the male/female dichotomy and their social life suffers a lot (this is actually why I believe there are so many male suicides).

Datson_Horrenbrand · 2016-09-25T13:48:51+00:00

of course thats because they are princesses ;)

exit-stage-right2 · 2016-09-25T16:21:50+00:00

Women never initiate. They may start a conversation, but it's never direct and requires the man to respond with the direct questions of actually creating something. They just seem to dance around the concrete affirmations to see if you will keep coming back. I ask once and if no direct response, I walk away. It's awesome to see their reaction when I've put an end to their fucked up , waste of time, game.

IslandicFreedom · 2016-09-25T16:25:54+00:00

Same shit in an office environment. They're put on a pedestal at work and they're touchy too.

Guys put in a ton of effort to be "The popular one" around them.

Any effort you put in with them seems to be taken for granted, they seldom show any interest just because...

Basically it feels like pissing in a bucket with a hole in it. Any energy you put in gets lost.

2016-09-25T23:24:39+00:00

Don't let it bother you mate. It isn't your fault ☺. Put your energies into something else. You'll be amazed at what a focused man can achieve.

JFK7878 · 2016-09-26T09:20:01+00:00

If you make first step it gives them upperhand.

cpl-Tyrannus · 2016-09-26T06:28:34+00:00

man this goes WAY beyond just mating behavior and extends into friendships as well. Women put very little effort into being good conversationalists and its way too often a one sided street. That's a primary reason I stopped trying to foster platonic relationships with them, because I found that even guys that were acquantances were better 'friends' in the long run

Title	Women put zero effort into mating
Author	Eclipsedv1
Upvotes	65
Comments	70
Date	September 25, 2016 12:57 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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