Wow. The pill is kicking in.

2015-03-24T15:33:08+00:00

Thank god you learned this before getting raped in the family and criminal courts.

Dudegoinghisownway · 2015-03-24T19:04:19+00:00

A woman never loves you, a woman loves what you can do for her.

Your hurting right now but this is actually a big step forward, your starting to figure out the rules the game of life is Really played by, not the rules you were taught as a kid. Plenty of guys older than you that still believe all the fairy tales they were told as kids. Still believe they will find the one and she will love them "for richer or poorer, in sickness and in health until death do us part" That does not exist in this society.

Brain washed that success with women is at the core of their identity, being a husband, a provider, being useful to women means they are a man and if they are not these things then they are not a man, they are nothing. It is good for women, good for society, good for civilization that men think like this. It is this thinking that has made men the workhorses that have turned the gears of civilization. So throw all that thinking right out of your head, take the pussy off the pedestal as they say.

Figure out what gives you satisfaction in life and persue it, take what you want from the world. And dont do it for her, dont do it for society, dont do it to make your family happy or your dad proud, do it for yourself.

SergeantDickhead · 2015-03-24T20:06:48+00:00

Thank you for sharing lad.

Something that helped me is realizing everything I base my life on is now about me. Do I want to wear a torn up shirt and not shower today? I can. Do I want to take apart my motorcycle and lay the parts over my bed? Well I'll just do that and no fucking cunt is going to tell me otherwise. Do I want to spend all day building a shack In the back yard so I can build crafts at 3am? Well I consult with no female. I just do these things and progress my happiness infinitely.

The_Male_Gaze · 2015-03-24T16:13:07+00:00

"women only want a relationship if they're getting something big out of it".

That's all there is to women. It is a painful but necessary truth to learn. All of us have had to learn it first-hand.

Also, if you will be going to college, don't interact with the hos. It is fun and game for them to falsely accuse men of harassment or rape.

Friggen_throwaway · 2015-03-24T18:06:54+00:00

What you are feeling is what we are all feeling or have felt. It will pass. You will move out of the anger and depression phase to acceptance. Be thankful you learned this at 19. I am just learning at 39 after a lifetime of getting fucked over. You have learned this so young that you have a lifetime ahead of you to live how you want. I wish I knew what you know now at 19.

cagethepepper · 2015-03-24T17:35:10+00:00

You're in the anger and depression phase. It will pass. If I had swallowed the pill at 19, my life would be a bit different. So use your age to plan accordingly for your future.

Cultivate hobbies, skills, and worthy friendships (TRP showed me how some friends were only my friends for their advantage). And worry about your job, career and finances. You're a man. We create the most and also destroy the most. Women...are just there.

BleauGumms · 2015-03-25T15:19:10+00:00

Women don't love. They love the idea of being in love.

Next, they love what you can do for them. Take my ex-wife, for example. We went to counseling and when asked what she loves about me, she said "he provides for his family". That was it. Cunt

vandaalen · 2015-03-24T21:35:53+00:00

Anger and feeling depressed is a part of the process of unplugging, but the way this reads to me makes me think that you might be suffering from clinical depression. You maybe want to get yourself checked by a doctor.

On the content: Don't hate women for what and who they are. Hate will most likely not get you anywhere but will only create negative feelings and distract you from your goals. Ignore them or avoid them if you want to, but do not hate them.

Learn to accept that there are things which you can change and that there are thing which you cannot change. Concentrate on the former and learn to stand the latter. Stoicism is vital.

Do not only concentrate on the negative effects of the pill. With 19 years you are exactly half my age and damned do I feel envious. You've discovered and swallowed the pill at such a young age, and it will offer you orientation and guidance which many men lack in their lifes and maybe never find, wondering all the time what's wrong with life and themselves.

You've got the chance now to lead a successful life without stumbling around, constantly looking for validation by women.

For now focus on improving yourself. Get some goals and pursue them. Be thankful that you were born a man. You are capable of imagening and building a life on your own and you do not inevitably need women in it, as opposed to women who need men.

codemoney · 2015-03-24T16:40:46+00:00

My very first friend for years already gave up and just plays Xbox all day.

Please don't be that guy.

He's very manipulative too. I don't know how he's been with a girl for 2 years.

He may have Red Pill skill.

The women on there will say they want a guy who's funny, shares interests, who's smart, etc.

They lie to themselves about what they REALLY want.

I used to believe in God and now I'm an Atheist

This is as big a change in philosophy. You have to delete all that disney crap you have been taught.

It's weird because I still want to have sex with women. And as much as I hate to admit, I'm truly starting to see them as useless objects.

Yes, and yes.

If the world knew my thoughts and feelings, my sanity would be questioned.

Sanity is only a measure of how your beliefs match reality. Everyone is a little insane, some more so than others. You're getting more sane.

the stuff I imagine are just sick.

That is more about the anger you feel. Don't get lost to it. Once you accept the truth, they can't hurt you.

anecdotal · 2015-03-25T03:06:56+00:00

You're young which is both good and bad. It's good because you're figuring this shit out early. You have a lot of time to dedicate towards your goals and plans, and will give you a HUGE one-up on all the dudes who are spending their time chasing wet holes to stick their cocks in.

But it's also bad because young people have A LOT of social pressures on them. You're at an age where you still put a lot of stock in what your parents say and expect, and you're at an age that you're looking at society in order to find out where you're going to "fit."

My suggestion would be to looking into individualistic philosophies. You are your own man. You can respect your family, but not follow their wishes. You can respect women, but you don't have to be shamed into doing their bidding and putting up with their shit. You can respect the people around you, but you gotta realize you are beholden to no one but yourself. In my experience, once you realize this, a ton of pressure will be lifted. You are not, nor have to be defined by the people around you. You can define yourself in any way you choose, and honestly, I think you're defining yourself in the right way. The sexual dynamics are Twilight Zone levels of fucked in this country and is a dangerous trap for men.

Make your own rules, make your own values, make your own goals and define yourself. I know it's cliche, but as a 19 year old, you can decide right now what path you want to be on, do whatever you want to do and absolutely slay it because you've rid yourself of others oppressive expectations and can fully commit to yourself.

If you can figure out how to get past the depression and anger, I believe you will come out the other side feeling very liberated. Just my two cent rambling.

And one more thing. There are about 8 billion people living on this planet. Every time you feel like a weirdo, or that you don't fit in this world, just remember out of 8 billion people, there's no way you're alone. You're not engaging in anything that's not been done before. You're not engaging in any sort of unholy taboo lifestyle. Don't feel like you're isolated and that you've broken some sacred covenant of humanity--the only thing you've broken are the bonds of slavery.

Oh and like others said, do not talk about MGTOW. I made that mistake once and got weird comments and looks. The friends I told are still sort of my friends but every once in a while they ask, "Are you still into that weird men's rights shit and swearing off women?" I say, "Nope, I've gotten over that..." Can't force feed the pill, and if you do, chances are they're gonna have a bad trip.

Ok that was like 3 cents. Sorry for the long ramble.

Aspiring_Hermit · 2015-03-24T17:17:51+00:00

May I suggest meditation? It helps me deal with my feelings. It was meditation which helped me to realize what I want out of life: a small cabin in the woods where I'll be able to really get into writing. Importantly I actually want this, it isn't merely a way to get away from society (nice added benefit though).

justindumke · 2015-03-24T21:40:38+00:00

OP I went through the same existential void you are going through pretty much all of my 20's. This may sound like crap but it is something you will have to struggle with the rest of your life. You must experience the big empty and learn from it to become a stronger person. Just do me a favor, if you feel hopeless enough that you consider hurting yourself, please don't. Stick around if nothing more than just to flip the world off while saying "Fuck you, you don't get to beat me."

Wolfenstein052 · 2015-03-24T23:32:46+00:00

Here's what has helped me so far during my red pill/MGTOW journey:

Do NOT talk about red pill/MGTOW (sound familiar?). Do not try to rationalize it, do not attempt to explain yourself to people, do not even try and float the concepts in conversation to see if the people around you are also secret MGTOWs. People will not understand it. The concepts are so radical and against our cultural norms and modern society in general that you might only end up alienating yourself in ways you didn't anticipate.

It's ok to intentionally withdraw from the game and protect yourself, but you still have to work your way in and out of a large deal of social situations depending on your job and/or social activities. For example, I frequent a cigar lounge because its something I like to do and I enjoy the company of the other regualr patrons, but it's not my duty to "wake them up" to the truths of the red pill. You might meet people who are already living some variation of a red pill/MGTOW life but the sheer concept of labeling it is too much for them to fathom. Tread cautiously.

Get OFF social media or at least change your habits. I still use Twitter and Facebook to a certain extent, but I have altered the way I use them and I have customized them to fit ME, not my "friends." Use them to stay up to date with your favorite bands, sports teams, etc. UNFOLLOW the majority of the people that show up on your newsfeed and try to refrain from scrolling through your Twitter timeline o much.

I say this because this will help you block out distractions and will help keep you for comparing yourself to other people in your (actually our, I'm 23), age group. The fact is, most of their lives are not spectacular no matter how hard they try to make them seem. It's easy for someone to post a picture of themselves at happy hour after work instead of at their actual job in the mailroom, or tag their location at [insert "New York's Hottest Club" here] instead of their commute in the morning on 278.

I understand some people might not need to block out such distractions but, for me at least, it has helped subdue negative feelings, especially ones towards other people. Anger and resentment is a part of the red pill experience but it is not the end goal. I used to think swallowing the pill meant I was condemned to have "no life" in the eyes of others because I wasn't tagged in all these pictures at bars. Over time, I realized that instead of "no life," I had "my life." And "my life" is objectively great.

For that matter, know now that your red pill experience will NOT be identical to anyone else's. Sure, you'll go through the same stages as we all did and are still doing, but your intervals might be different. This July will mark 3 years since I first swallowed the red pill (courtesy of old Tom Leykis and Patrice O'Neal clips on Youtube) and I am only just now entering the acceptance phase. But again, that is just me. Stay strong and you will get there.
To help with this, utilize your sources. Over the last few months I started making it a priority to visit either this sub or some red pill/MGTOW resource EVERY SINGLE DAY. Why? Because, as a former lifelong blue piller like everyone else, it was difficult to break old habits, especially in this modern environment where it is becoming harder and harder to isolate oneself even when not in an urban environment. Alcoholics and other addicts go to meetings because it helps them remember they are not alone in their struggle. It is a community. We don't meet in public, but we are a community as well. And we are here to help.

Edit: words

oldredder · 2015-03-25T06:48:22+00:00

If I ever hear a woman say to my face she'll only date a man with a car, good credit and some mini-mansion I'll say I'll only date a girl who gives me sex 3 times a day, 3-way sex with other girls every single time.

Morranaii · 2015-03-25T17:15:41+00:00

True that... all true.. It's weird because I still want to have sex with women remember that when now you know how they are, it makes the game more powerful on your side. Because they also want to sleep with us. ;>

I had similar story.. first I dumped idea of God... now women/love. It's very very sad, and very tough at times but also - truth is better than the most pleasant lie in my opinion. Stay strong. We can't change the nature of women and we should be thankful that we found out so early, before somebody did the 'accidental' pregnancy trick on us... and so on!

What burdens me is that there are so many men out there that don't get all this at all! They are weak, or unable to think rationally. They even go and fight in the first lines for the feminists... it's crazy.

timoppenheimer · 2015-03-24T23:48:46+00:00

Trigger warning: psychobabble ahead. I think I'm right, but your mileage may vary.

Hey buddy, it's hard to take these red pills, and I'm sorry for your grief. That's what you're describing at the end of the last paragraph. You're grieving for your dreams of partnership, your gynocentric goals, and your frame of mind. It sounds like you're in the depression stage of grief. The next step is acceptance, but not everyone reaches acceptance, and if you do reach this stage, it won't mean happiness or whatever other BS people typically mean by acceptance. It just means you've gone through the worst of your emotions, and that you've internalized your red pills. This is the goal (for me, and I would suggest also for you).

I've been going through something similar as I've taken my red pills over the last year, especially when it comes to circumcision, the fucked-up nature of our legal system, and the double-standards that are omnipresent. Frankly, it's made me a lot more suicidal than usual, but I think I'm finally moving through the deepest darkness.

The only way through the depression stage is to embrace your feelings and feel them as strongly as you can. This is likely to involve triggering yourself with more upsetting information. If you want to see another man reflecting on his grieving process, watch this male therapist (Spetsnaz) talk about Bar Bar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC3QZgYwpQs

Embrace the sadness, the pain, the anger, and whatever else is within yourself when you think about these topics. As you live through the worst of these feelings, they will fade. The sooner you do this, the sooner the feelings will fade to acceptance.

Misogyny may be the logical conclusion, and if it is, stop resisting it. Instead, look for counterarguments and weigh them. I think you'll decide, as many of us have, that women are mostly lesser creatures, but once you understand this and stop fighting conclusions such as this, you will find it easier to move forward with your life.

Also, working out (or doing a sport) will help you feel a little better. Diet, exercise, sleep... these are important. Even when you feel bad, try to help yourself by doing these things.

Again, I'm sorry for your pain, and I wish you luck.

edited for more detail, sorry for the length

Brandwein · 2015-03-25T00:04:15+00:00

Dont try to turn an 360 (EDIT: 180) to your previous beliefes. That only causes anger and frustration. Just enjoy yourself.

Gaining weight doesnt matter as long as its not over 90 kilos or smth. You can game all day if you want, or masturbate or whatever. Or do something creative; draw, write, make music.

Just brush off the standards of society, and whats seen being a "loser". Better that than being a "winner" and being unhappy, no?

drkstrs · 2015-03-27T03:47:39+00:00

Well you should still be able to relate to women as fellow human beings, just stop idealizing them. I like to think of most people as sleepwalking. The shattering of the bluepill illusion is a huge psychological shift that should eventually give you more access to life and your dreams, not less. Once you get thru the shock and anger of it all, that is.

Title	Wow. The pill is kicking in.
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