Being short gives you perspective.

Banned_BY_SOYMEN · 2021-02-06T17:42:05+00:00

Height has always been important, but I honestly think something has happened in the past 10-15 years that’s fetishized it to a point if no return. I mean think about George Constanza in Seinfeld — he was notably short but that was only mentioned rather sparingly. Sure, the guy was a bit of a meme and perhaps not completely representative of the 90s, but I do think there’s been a cultural shift in how short or shorter men are viewed nowadays.

He was critiqued far more for being bald, not handsome, and incompetent rather than being short. If he was a character today, I have no doubt his height would likely be his most defining characteristic.

When women say “I just want a man who’s taller than me” — they usually mean a man taller than them while also wearing heels.

30203forever · 2021-02-06T17:19:34+00:00

If I had been blessed with a strong genetic constitution and became a 6’3” Chad, I likely would be trapped in a very bad marriage (like most marriages are) with kids.

Or divorce-raped like the majority of them. I'm 6' well-built guy. Same weight as I was in high school. Do you know what saved me? $0 net worth at your age. I considered that to be the bane of my existence 20 years ago and now, being financially-independent, I thank my lucky star for that lack of money EVERY SINGLE day.

P.S. Yuri Gagarin, the Russian pilot and the first man in space was 5'2" while the most famous test pilot who has ever lived Eric "Winkle" Brown was 5'7". The females who're limiting their options to 6' and above are doing so at their own expense.

NewbornCylinder · 2021-02-06T17:18:38+00:00

I hear you man. Im 5’6” too, but introvert and not so handsome. Woman usually give me a hard time

sootlord · 2021-02-06T18:43:11+00:00

I'm 5,8

The only chicks I can scrape are single mommies/post wall/ bitches. Once you had one woman, you've had them all. Girls are by nature cruel as fuck.

confusedwalrus23 · 2021-02-06T18:35:31+00:00

I'm 6'2''. how women treat shorter dudes has been a redpilling thing for me, and it's a shame. Would i even know about it if there weren't shorter dudes around? maybe if there were none, the bar would be set higher, and 6 foot would be considered short. I personally don't understand women's insistence on taller guys. It's probably because they think that a taller dude is more likely to successfully defend off attackers, but a short dude who is trained in fighting will absolutely cream a taller dude without experience without much trouble.

Solo_and_Simple · 2021-02-06T17:58:29+00:00

Yup, I'm 5' 7" and I've had those same thoughts. Being short does give you insight into the superficiality of female attraction. I know it's evolutionarily determined, but it's still superficial. Women talk about true love and romance, but so much is just evolutionarily determined buttons getting pushed.

Took me a while to get past insecurity about being short. And it took me even longer before I could see the upside. I see it now very clearly. It forces you to build your internal resources -- self-esteem, autonomy, character strength, etc. It also spares you a lot of relationship drama and heartache. Incidentally, I also heard last week that shorter men live longer than taller ones, so there's that, too.

In a way, I see it as akin to my wealth. I'm wealthy, but women would never know it. I live very simply -- drive a Corolla, live in an old 2-bedroom house. Women judge by the superficial appearance, and so they miss the actual value. Same with height. They judge the surface and miss the real value.

At this point, though, I don't care whether they recognize my value or not. The clock ran out on that one.

2021-02-06T17:59:35+00:00

Hey buddy I'm 6'3" We all come from different backgrounds, but ended up in the same place.

I was always the weird kid in class, silly and fun, straight A's but overly desperate for attention, especially from cute girls.

I learned self-acceptance and self-love in my childhood and pre-teen years, when I was isolated for long summers on a country property with 0 friends calling and no one wanting to hang out with me.

I was friendzoned often because of my silly class clown demeanor, poor hygiene, etc. I later had some dating success without really trying.. but then I got serious with a girl who treated me like shit and made me feel alone in a relationship with her. I found theredpill around that time, 10 years ago, and later, MGTOW(2) said everything I had been doing for years

Creepy-Pineapple-444 · 2021-02-06T20:16:20+00:00

Hi there, 5'4 guy myself with decent job, tan skin and washboard abs...most of my hair still. It has given me perspective as well.

Not sure if this has happened to any other good looking short guys, but I still get looks even from pretty tall women, and had PRIVATE flings. I think they can still be attracted to short guys however they would never date you in public, because of SOCIAL VALIDATION.

But since realising this...better to be the fun toy boy

ronoda12 · 2021-02-06T18:47:08+00:00

Deny women your resources. Never bend or bow. Make money, muscles and do what you want. There is a sense of liberation when people judge you by things you cant control but you have aced in things you can control like money. It gives you a smile inside thinking you will cruise into sunset denying every woman who judge you by height your riches while they rot in their studio apartment trying to get alimony and child support from some chad. Thats a very pathetic life.

Kindjump7 · 2021-02-06T17:58:02+00:00

Im in my 20s and it is 6' or death nowadays. Under 6' you are only a betabuxxer if you live in the west.

Bourbonandcigars06 · 2021-02-06T17:53:22+00:00

Have several colleagues that are shorter but are best in class in every way,, on top in very respectable fields and earned respect from others. Let the message this has no impact on your personal success

Its harder when younger but maturing, the ways of the world become clearer. Unfortunately entitlement, true intentions, morals and ethics have become more dominant and more difficult to spot

ZephyrL0rd · 2021-02-06T17:52:34+00:00

I enjoyed reading your story, and what I don't get is that there are people who think about concluding or not concluding, an entire flesh and soul worth so much more than their vertical reach, based on ONE factor.

My ex helped her friend find someone and apparently she liked the guy but he was too short. Right then and there I should have known what type of women I was dealing with, as looking at their friends tells how they really are. Imagine if I was a few inches shorter, apparently she wouldn't want to make memories and 'love' me (for whatever she thinks that means).

UnearthlyDinosaur · 2021-02-06T19:45:27+00:00

Yup being Chad is great when you’re 21 because you can fuck random girls with no consequence. But I imagine as they get older it gets a lot more complicated. Being single is uncomplicated. Not being conventionally attractive gives you a lot of perspective

TDurden757 · 2021-02-07T06:36:19+00:00

I'm 5'5" and been told that I'm 'too short.' This had resulted in me being 'friend-zoned' many times. Personally, I stopped giving a shit since becoming MGTOW. Had I been four maybe five inches taller (or even taller), I would have gone through more dates and might even be trapped in a bad relationship or marriage. I only recently got red pilled and have only been this way for a couple of years. Five or so more years ago, I was deep into the Blue Pill. Thank God I am born the way I am because I am living my life in my own terms.

2021-02-06T20:08:15+00:00

Being tall gives you perspective too, if you’re actually 6 feet tall, women are frightened by you.

Drljperry · 2021-02-06T23:12:24+00:00

I’m 5’4” and always preferred guys close to my height, or only an inch or 2 taller. I do know, however, that this is unusual and that height is important to the majority of women. Short guys are still so masculine!! (Which is what I am essentially attracted to: masculinity, not machismo). I married a guy same height as me. I love being eye-to-eye and face- to- face when kissing or ...(etc)

pandanetz · 2021-02-06T18:22:59+00:00

I remember the way that women were treated back in the days when I was a kid for being fat, I hated how nasty my friends were towards them; however, the fact that I don’t want to see people humiliating them doesn’t mean that I found them attractive or wanted to date them, this is how I feel about the whole deal with short guys, nobody has the obligation to be attracted to someone they don’t like, but that doesn’t validate being horrible to that person because of it. I’m glad you are feeling better with yourself and that you are living life your own way.

slamdunktiger86 · 2021-02-06T20:58:21+00:00

Higher level, higher devil.

-188cm

TRPonlySubsBanTRPppl · 2021-02-06T18:24:12+00:00

Good for you, man. Tall Chads have problems as well. Their rise is steep and their fall is, too. If you survive on height, you fall hard like a post wall woman once you need viagra to get it up. Then you have to reinvent yourself anyway.

Diamond_Road · 2021-02-07T00:35:09+00:00

Personally I also reject most women who are over 5’10.

I’m 6ft and still happily child and relationship free

GullibleAirport732 · 2021-02-07T10:46:11+00:00

I'm 5'2 from Pakistan and just glad that height isn't such a life or death issue here when it comes to marriage

BSSMTrk11 · 2021-02-08T20:10:01+00:00

Looking at your last paragraph, it sounds like you’re getting into the right headspace. Jeff Nippard is 5’5”; Greg Doucette is 5’6”. Do you lift? Being short is an asset there. You’re 31 plenty o time to get yoked—for yourself of course—not deez hoes. And like you said, Chad’s stuck in a dead bedroom marriage; Chad’s dealing with babymommas and STD’s; Chad has existential dread because he doesn’t actually exist—all that stuff. It’s always interesting to me how men will try to make a relationship out of a woman meeting one or two of his needs, but women need each and every one of their boxes checked—and half of those boxes are only there because of what her friends think, and if she had any selfhood whatsoever she’d ignore them and be perfectly happy with her 5ft n change dude. Women get to have dealbreakers; men deal with the breaks they get.

Onslow85 · 2021-02-06T23:23:47+00:00

Have never understood this. I am just 5'8" and average looking but fairly skinny and have never had this massive issue with my height or attracting women.

I mean, yeah, being tall is attractive but so are so many other things that you may or may not have. I think you just obsess to much about it.

Spare_Leave2322 · 2021-02-07T06:42:31+00:00

I know what you mean. I've always struggled with overeating all my life, meaning that I had always been fat all through my teen years and early 20s and hence didn't have a lot of luck with the ladies. I always thought that being fat held me back but by golly now I'm grateful I wasn't appealing to the ladies I wouldn't have been able to find MGTOW and just enjoy the peace of going your own way.

grey-spyder · 2021-02-08T03:49:01+00:00

My ex monster told me she was fucking around and she preferred a big dick, that fucked with me for a while but when I finally got over the douchebag and was out with other women I blew them away one couldn't get enough the other was so wet.now I realize that she got bored out from all the dudes that she was banging while we were married.

BringTheFingerBack · 2021-02-07T10:24:50+00:00

I always said the leo dicaprio affect fucked up my late teens in terms of girls. I was a 6ft 5 teenager make back then at going to university parties I noticed all the skinny pretty boys were getting all the attention after titanic came out. Faster forward 20 years and the dating app has made 6ft 2+ the cut off for males. Funny thing is I'm glad it was tough at the beginning because I'm cleaning up now.

Mtaufer93 · 2021-02-07T23:04:46+00:00

5'7 here, hot girlfriend. My 5'7 friend is the one who get all the girls. My tallest friend 6'4 dates average girls. Work your confidence.

Mtaufer93 · 2021-02-08T03:16:23+00:00

The problem is that you are not a nice guy. You are a weak man, you are insecure. Deep inside you hate people but you dont have the balls to act tought in real life, than you act like the nice guy.

Title	Being short gives you perspective.
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Date	February 6, 2021 5:02 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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