considering going non-sugar

Solo_and_Simple · 2021-02-17T16:22:22+00:00

Good idea. There are a number of good books on sugar and the damage it causes -- e.g., Gary Taubes, The Case Against Sugar.

However, I'd caution you against believing this:

The non-sugar thing means you throw out added sugar, that is, white sugar. The sugar that naturally is present in fruit doesn't count.

Sugar is present in a wide variety of forms, not just white sugar, and it all has pretty much the same effect on the body, which is not good (if you read about metabolic syndrome, which is linked to a range of modern diseases, you'll see that it is linked closely to sugar and carbohydrate intake). Sugar can be sucrose, glucose, fructose, maltose, and no doubt some other -ose's I've forgotten. More pernicious, the food industry has disguised sugar as an ingredient on food labels by giving it a whole menagerie of different names. The intention is to disguise the fact that it's sugar. I can't list them all; there are too many. Here's a link though, "The 56 different names for sugar:"

https://www.virtahealth.com/blog/names-for-sugar

And fruits are not necessarily exempt from concern. Yes, fruits are healthier than just drinking pure sugar water. In part, that's because they have fiber that slows down absorption of the sugar, and in part it's because they have some vitamins. However, recognize that fruits you see in the grocery aisles have been genetically altered to be much sweeter (i.e., much higher in sugar content) than their natural forms ("frankenfruits," some call them), and that fruits were only available seasonally through our history, not 365 days/year as they are now. Some fruits are quite high in sugar (e.g., bananas) and will easily throw someone into glucose overload, if consumed regularly.

Further, the type of sugar found in fruits, fructose, is problematic, because unlike other forms of sugar, fructose can only be metabolized by the liver. If you overload yourself with fructose -- which is very easy in today's society, because fructose (high fructose corn syrup) is a cheap and common ingredient in a lot of processed foods -- then you're at risk of developing fatty liver disease.

Understand also that grains = sugar. Grains, even so-called "heart healthy" whole grains -- are basically nothing more than long chains of sugar. The whole grain includes some fiber, which slows down the breakdown into simple sugars, so it can dampen the glucose impact, but it's still basically just sugar (see Wheat Belly, by William Davis, for a good discussion). So if you want to eliminate sugar, you'll need to eliminate grains as well. Grains are sugar.

I don't mean to make it sound hard. I've been eating this way (low carb, keto/carnivore) for nearly three years, and it's very easy and rewarding. I don't contend with sweet tooth cravings, either. Once you get carbs/sugar down to a certain point (like below 40 g or so), your body adjusts, and the sweet tooth largely goes away.

Vk760 · 2021-02-17T16:17:04+00:00

Dietitian here. I'm a big fan of keto diet, that consist in avoiding starches and sugars. Unless you are a really active professional athlete, I would recommend keto diet. It prevents type 2 diabetes, and it's used to enhance cognitive function (specially in Alzheimer's and epilepsy)

Fruits are to be kept in one a day if so, and preferably non banana due to high content of starch/sugar.

Hope it helps

californiaarchitect · 2021-02-17T19:06:32+00:00

I went keto/no sugar in 2019 and within 11 months I reduced my BMI from the obese category to the healthy weight category. It was fortuitous; I reached my weight loss goal just a week before CORONAVIRUS made the news. One of the many benefits of cutting out sugar is an improved immunity system.

I would like to mention that I follow Dr. Gundry for his advice on olive oil, Dave Asprey for Bulletproof coffee and MCT oil, and Dr. Rhonda Patrick for just about everything else. My diet is now more Blue Zone/Mediterranean meaning that I eat a lot of vegetables, no red meat, no fried or processed foods. I cut back on meat and when I do eat meat it is poultry or seafood in smaller portions.

I am in my 50's but most people think I am in my late 30's. So this effort has paid off for me. I started this diet along with daily walks and weight lifting every other day because my wife died from cancer leaving me with two teenage kids to raise. It dawned on me that by being obese, I could possibly drop dead of a heart attack leaving my kids orphaned.

Good health should be a part of every red pill/MGTOW lifestyle.

JusW4naRetireFk · 2021-02-17T16:36:33+00:00

You don’t need to cut sugar out, just don’t consume sources of dumb sugar as I call it. Soda is just water with sugar that has tons of calories while not making you feel sated, it’s fucking dumb and makes you fat, avoid that garbage.

Tea coffee water juice, any liquid really don’t bother adding sugar it’s a waste. Cookies, chocolate or sweets that actually give you a feeling of fullness are far better compared to sugared beverages that are like poison where you don’t feel anything from the insane amount of sweeteners used.

If you aren’t drinking sugar, that simply means you can eat sweets without feeling as shitty lol. Obviously don’t binge on sweets but cutting out sugared water is a no brainer for me, that shit is stupid...

TRPonlySubsBanTRPppl · 2021-02-17T16:03:25+00:00

All addictions are related. If you can't stop having sugar because it's there and you like it, you'll have a hard time quitting women as well.

frenchlouve · 2021-02-17T15:40:17+00:00

I applaud your trying this. I think I'm too much of a sweet tooth to give up sugar entirely. I can reduce it (I recently stopped drinking soda and have reduced my dependence on fruit juice). But I can't give it up entirely. In fact, I've been trying to learn baking lately.

However, I still think you should go for it. Come back and tell us the results. Maybe some of us sweet tooths will be converted.

Extremely__Moderate · 2021-02-17T21:43:26+00:00

DO it!

Less sugar the better. Pro-tip: When you are at the store, avoid eye contact with sugar food. Don’t even look in the direction of the cookies.

Why? When you look at it, you will have pavlovian response and greatly increase your odds of putting it in the cart.

SnooDrawings4726 · 2021-02-17T16:56:54+00:00

It amazes me we’ve been here for millions of years and still don’t know what to eat... here’s a good rule of thumb, if it didn’t grow or have parents, try not to eat it Also try and find things that have been as minimally processed as possible ...

ViscountVixen · 2021-02-17T17:18:56+00:00

I still cave now and then to a piece of cake or an energy drink. I know there's also sugars/sweeteners in a number of fast foods I will eat about once a week on average, and a bunch of other nasty shit besides, so I've clearly got a ways to go before I am completely there. Have been working on throwing out flour as well since refined complex carbohydrates are scarcely better than simple sugar when it comes to the health effects they are implicated in. Pretty much compelled to do it, though, if I want to live in remotely good health for the rest of my life, due to a thyroid and adrenal disorder that makes it hard to regulate inflammation and metabolism as it is before you throw a sugar wrench in there for shits and giggles.

ghostpath · 2021-02-17T19:17:50+00:00

Read Pure White and Deadly by John Yukin. It sets out all the chronic and often lethal diseases sugar can cause. The sugar industry tried to cancel his career because of this book.

In the west people today eat 20 times the amount of sugar their ancestors ate 200 years ago. Many of the diseases we see today were not prevalent 200 years ago. Something to think about.

I eat keto/low-carb. If I want a snack I might have some full-fat coconut milk or (sugar-free) almond butter on celery sticks. I'll even eat coconut oil straight out of the jar (with a little Himalayan salt sprinkled on top).

If you want to have fruit, do it in moderation and stick to low-sugar ("keto") fruits like raspberries, strawberries and blackberries.

Intrepid-Educator-12 · 2021-02-17T20:25:02+00:00

years ago i completely stop drinking soda and replace it with water.

The first week, without changing anything else, i was losing weight. 2-3 pound of week.

i_m_saksham · 2021-02-18T13:10:55+00:00

I myself have tried going non sugar. No doubt it helps your cognitive skills too apart from helping you in being more agile .

SceneAccomplished549 · 2021-02-17T17:04:47+00:00

I have had, for most of my teenage years, and part of my adult 20s had an acne problem due to high levels of sugar...since I've started cutting back I've noticed a couple things

My acne level goes down.
I actually feel better overall.
I don't crave sweets, or other stuff nearly as much, I would much rather some salami or sliced meats instead.

Bonesteel50 · 2021-02-17T17:29:07+00:00

You had me at the title, added sugar food should be a very rare treat. Fruit is where its at. Try out some dried figs with salted pistachios, shit will change your life

KneeDeepThought · 2021-02-17T17:52:53+00:00

All life on Earth can lengthen its lifespan by 30% by restricting its calories by 30%. I highly recommend the change- you can get low/no sugar options for pretty much anything so it doesn't feel so much like "dieting." It will certainly help your overall health - just be careful you don't drive your carbs all the way to zero or you will go hypoglycemic.

Rye bread instead of wheat, yams instead of white potatoes, no sweet drinks that aren't diet, and sugar-free desserts like puddings and keto ice cream will get you a long way towards that health goal without having to eat cardboard and run marathons.

Deplorable_X · 2021-02-17T18:15:46+00:00

Go no carbs and no sugar... It will do wonders for you well being.

quesoburgesa · 2021-02-17T18:56:25+00:00

I’ve pretty much done this all my adult life no sweet tooth lol

the-lone-squid · 2021-02-17T19:01:38+00:00

I ditched booze this year and it’s a game changer. I’m not sugar free, but I’m very sugar light (less then 100 calories from sugar)

Be careful with fruit tho. It is absolutely loaded with the same fructose as table sugar and will cause you to gain weight just the same. Fructose is processed in the liver. I stick to glucose cans for the most part like rice and sweet potatoes

Wioslarz · 2021-02-17T21:16:06+00:00

I've started keto on October 2020 and already have lost 15kg (33lbs). This diet is not only healthy but really great and tasty!!! Add IF to it and welcome to the health world ;)!

Darkmaster85845 · 2021-02-17T21:29:39+00:00

I dropped all soda drinks a while ago and same with candies and that kind of stuff. I still eat a lot of chocolate and derived products though.

BobbingForBunions · 2021-02-18T00:02:06+00:00

I've been zero-carb for years. No sugar (added or natural). No fiber. No fruit. No veggies.

I've never felt healthier. Lots of energy. Lots of mental clarity. Total control over emotions.

Had blood work and a full panel of tests done a year ago. Doctor said everything was perfect. I mentioned I was zero-carb. He said, "Keep doing what you're doing." lol

wegsty797 · 2021-02-18T00:13:03+00:00

check out veganism, or at least cut out dairy

TheApricotCavalier · 2021-02-18T02:02:45+00:00

I went sugarfree for a while and it worked well; but the flesh is weak. 2020 was hard.

csehszlovakze · 2021-02-18T02:14:18+00:00

I had to go to a far greater length to deal with a health issue (IBS-C) and I'm on the r/zerocarb train now. Sometimes I do a cheat meal or a day with carbs as part of the process but it helps a lot.

Steaknkidney45 · 2021-02-18T02:21:39+00:00

It's a great way to go. High-protein, high-fat, and plenty of veggies works wonders.

Diamond_Road · 2021-02-18T02:28:27+00:00

waxqube · 2021-02-20T16:46:05+00:00

After avoiding sugar in food, you may find that you start to dislike sugary stuff (especially processed foods), and tend to prefer more wholesome and natural food. Btw, there's a lot of hidden "sugar" in food, even though it may not be apparent. One common example is white bread.

Title	considering going non-sugar
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Date	February 17, 2021 3:31 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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