No more mr nice guy question..

strategos_autokrator · 2015-04-20T11:59:06+00:00

Which red pill principle it goes against?

Emotions are VERY important in relationships. In fact, women don't love you, they love how you make them feel. So effectively communicating your emotions is essential to keep them excited and happy. If you don't, they think you are boring.

There is a difference between expressing your emotions and vomiting them. In one, you are true to the emotions, express them, and use them to get what you want. This is alpha. An example is that you are angry, but instead of throwing your tantrum, or arguing with her, you use few words and let her get a glimpse of the angry lion, and that is all. That is more scary than if you threw a tantrum pissed off. You use your emotions to make her FEEL her emotions, it is avery powerful way to communicate.

The wrong way is that you talk about your emotions hoping she "understands them" or "cares" or "makes you feel better". This is treating her as if she was your mom. This makes you in her eyes VERY unattractive.

Finally, I think the key is that very beta men think that discussing their emotions is expressing their emotions. This is very misguided, it is unfair for the emotions, and it makes you weaker in the eyes of woman. Don't "talk talk talk" about your emotions.

Dev_on · 2015-04-20T12:03:33+00:00

Emotions are good. expressing them is how you end up not putting a pistol in your mouth at age 40...

Whining like a baby, isn't...

It's all about doing it properly. stomping your feet when you don't get your way is how children act. Crying at your fathers funeral is a healthy thing

BluepillProfessor · 2015-04-20T15:16:55+00:00

Just like the Bluepills accusing us Merpers of not believing in communication. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

We communicate- directly and without the covert contracts.

We express emotion- there is in fact a division between the "stoics" who emphasize masculine assuredness and NGAF and the cocky/funny guys who emphasize good times and positive frame.

What we don't do is favor expressing whiny, bitchy, childish, womanly emotions or keeping your emotions to yourself inside a big fat covert contract.

theultmatecad · 2015-04-20T18:37:46+00:00

Red pill men have emotions, so do blue pill men. The difference is that the RP man takes care of both his and his family's emotions. He doesn't rely on his woman to make him all right. He is always all right.

Now we know this may not be always true, but we fake it if necessary. Your wife can't help you with your problems. She just isn't equipped to do it and the expectations that she will do so will cause her to lose attraction.

Male friends. Dads. Dogs. Even a therapist as long as it's one on one and wifey doesn't have to hear all your issues

wakethfkupneo · 2015-04-20T13:32:48+00:00

The question is too vague. It depends on type of emotion, context and how you express it. For example ...

beta: What you did really made me angry

alpha: I'm disappointed in you

In former your emotion is purely reactive in a sense that it's out of your control. In latter you're the one doing the judging (and it implies control).

Soarinc · 2015-04-20T19:49:37+00:00

Just do not express your own fear and insecurity to her ever. It can make her feel insecure and you need to be a bedrock (caveat: but it's not always the case in some relationships)

RedPillJohnny · 2015-04-21T17:19:21+00:00

Manson's book is great at elucidating this issue...better than NMMNG. In fact I recommend Models to all of our Married Red Pill subscribers here. I know that it is advertised as dating advice but it is way more than that...and dating advice is simply advice that you use in your interaction with women to get your way...it's only "dating" advice when you are dating or trying to get dates. I found it to be one of the best books...rivaling the Rational Male (but not replacing it!) in usefulness.

CaptainWasHere · 2015-04-21T20:35:09+00:00

BP = Expressing your emotions in a lengthy diatribe defending your beliefs in the proper "this is how our councilor taught me" way, hoping to convince her of your rightness and hoping to sway her toward your belief system. This does not work. Most BP men are not living out their true emotions, because those are locked away and considered "bad." Discussing your emotions is almost always discussing them too much and to no avail.

RP = Expressing as concisely as possible why you feel something and what action you're going to take while recognizing that you have zero control over her thoughts and feelings - that's RP. Yes, you will hide small emotions (frustration, disappointment) in an effort to remain stoic and outcome independent. While letting your real emotions come out when necessary in key times. Your stoic grandfather wasn't emotionless. He just controlled them and let them out when necessary so as to get the best results and happiest life.

It's like when you tell a joke and someone smiles and says, "That's funny." No it's not. They're BSing you. If it were funny, they wouldn't state the emotion, they'd just laugh.

Title	No more mr nice guy question..
Author	t-dog1982
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Date	April 20, 2015 11:36 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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