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Count Dankula Found Guilty now faces jail for teaching dog to give Nazi salute. Free speach is dead

Imdefender

March 20, 2018
170 upvotes
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http://www.newsweek.com/youtuber-count-dankula-who-taught-dog-nazi-salute-faces-jail-hate-crime-853470
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Title Count Dankula Found Guilty now faces jail for teaching dog to give Nazi salute. Free speach is dead
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Imdefender

Upvotes 170
Comments 43
Date March 20, 2018 8:00 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/85vtxr/count_dankula_found_guilty_now_faces_jail_for/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/count-dankula-found-guilty-now-faces-jail-for.904028
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[–]Rethgil 72 points73 points74 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Just watched original video. Pretty funny.

In the video he even begins by explaining his innocent reason for doing it, and ends the video by restating it.

"I wanted to teach the dog to react to the most HORRIBLE things-I don't believe in them-just to piss off my girlfriend because she obsessed about how cute the dog is."

What kind of pricks JAIL someone for that? Even famous Jewish comedian David Baddiel publicly stated "it was funny".

Hope he gets a crowd funded appeal.

[–]martin59825 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I got $5 on it

[–]ThePigmanAgain 60 points61 points62 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"convicted of a hate crime"

That's it, folks, the term "hate crime" has now become literally meaningless.

[–]PowerToAnnihilate 27 points28 points29 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Meanwhile the cops over there can't figure out how to stop children from being raped and are allowing no-go zones.

Thank god the cops are so helpful at protecting people form jokes while allowing genital mutilation of both boys and girls and allowing any other form of sexual assault to take place as well...

[–]thrway_1000 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hate speech laws are ridiculous and an affront to free speech.

Archive stupid sites -- https://archive.is/bAzRH

[–]Sigbi 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

say what ppl will about america, but that constitution is amazing and should be the start point for all societies.

[–]shydude92 19 points20 points21 points 8 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

The first thing that came to my mind when I saw this was, that this arrest was an appalling example of police overreach and infringed on the right to free speech, even though the gesture itself is reprehensible on a moral level (although I don’t think it should be forbidden from a legal standpoint). But then the second thing was “I bet this happened in the UK.” As it turned out, I was right.

I’ve noticed a lot of these incidents seem to be coming from the UK, and this is an extremely worrying trend. Throughout the Western world, the SJWs have already utterly infiltrated and infested the academia, tech industry, show business, and the media. However, two institutions that have still remained relatively untouched (at least here in Canada) are the police force and the criminal justice system. Not so in the UK. There you have police who actually proactively scour the social media platforms for anything that might be considered remotely Islamophobic and go to great lengths to arrest the people making the comments. Then there’s also the case that emerged a few weeks ago where a woman was questioned by the police, and charges are pending against her, for merely criticizing another woman’s decision to take her 16 year old to Thailand to undergo gender reassignment surgery. And then, while in North America and Scandinavia there’s a lot of talk about how high-profile men are being forced out of their positions and having their careers and reputations destroyed over unsubstantiated and questionable rape allegations, the UK has actually taken this a step further by actually trying and convicting these men, often in cases where the evidence was not only insufficient, but there was convincing evidence to the contrary to exonerate the suspect that was deliberately ignored simply to convict the suspect. In some of these cases, these men were finally freed, removed from the sex registry, etc. but for all we know these cases were probably the tip of the iceberg and there are likely dozens of men in prison and on the sex registry for demonstrably false allegations who do not have the legal resources to overturn the convictions and are even then fighting an uphill battle because the courts are also trained to be rigged against them. There’s even been the suggestion made (not sure to what extent this is true, but wouldn’t surprise me if it were) that police and the courts may have been given specific arrest and conviction quotas in sex cases, because the onus must always be placed on “believing the victim” etc.

Then, there’s also the ever-growing list of individuals being banned from the country simply for holding conservative and politically incorrect views. Just recently, Lauren Southern, Brittany Pettibone, and Martin Sellner were denied admission to the country because their views were deemed to be unacceptable, they were willing to interview conservative figures during their stay, and speak at Hyde Park, which is ironically supposed to be a monument to free speech where just about everyone is allowed to express any opinion they like, however controversial (apart from insulting the Queen). At this rate, it’s only a matter of time before anyone expressing any right-of-center views becomes liable to arrest and imprisonment. At that point, the UK will no longer be a free country and will be outright dangerous to live in for anyone who dares to put even their little toe out of line by speaking out against the new SJW-tyranny and exercising their now-nonexistent right to free speech. We can only hope this doesn’t spread to the rest of the Western world, because then anyone on the right of the political spectrum will face not only criticism and oppression but open political persecution and the Western world will truly not be a safe place to live anymore.

At that point, if that ever happens, the only option will be to move to Eastern Europe, non-Islamic Asian countries, or the more conservative countries of Latin America which thus far have been relatively spared of the worst effects of the SJW ideology and hope and pray that the cultural Marxist demagogues don’t then start spending their seemingly bottomless coffers to promote their tyrannical insane ideology there precisely so they can have the entire world in their grasp and so that there is no longer any escape for the proponents of conservative or classical liberal ideals and the defenders of free speech and so they can finally accomplish their goal of enslaving the whole world in the midst of their ideology.

[–]superhobo666 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Im sorry but Canadas police and legal system are just as infiltrated as our schools and have been for decades.

Otherwise the majority of Canadian police wouldnt be using the duluth method like they are, and the majority of Canadas criminal jusroce system wouldnt be so heavily biased against men as it is.

[+]BoringHair11 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

it's scary but the left seems really against free speech, they seem to think it's evil because it allows the far right hate speech and they even termed a derogary word "freeze peach" to shame them..

i mean the right would call me sjw too but at least i don't want to take people's rights away, in fact i want the opposite, give as many rights as possible. I hate how sjws are getting authoriarian because i agree with most of their values (acceptance of lbgt and weird lifestyles) but they are pushing even leftists into far right.. I mean i see a few gay guys on discord who are conservative and hate what sjws have become. But at the same time it's not like america has another option, it's either the lgbt supportive party or the kill all fags party. Gee i wonder why many are voting dem.

i wish politics was at least separated into categories, so we could vote different candidates for economic, social, political issues etc

[–]Doing_It_In_The_Butt 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

hey are pushing even leftists into far right.. I mean i see a few gay guys on discord who are conservative and hate what sjws have become. But at the same time it's not like america has another option, it's either the lgbt supportive party or th

I dislike trump for a variety of reasons, but he is not anti-LGBT, although you could argue he is neutral to against the T. I am a bisexual american living in the uk and the censorship of critiquing Islam by SJWs is my biggest fear. Islamists do want to kill me.

[–]Samisseyth 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, “the west world” is more tame than Sweden and Australia when it comes to feminism. Many people in the Americas are starting to get annoyed with the blatant man hating. Mainstream media is still shit, but they don’t speak for the majority.

[–]WhatMixedFeelings 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most of your hypotheticals are already true. The United States is the last bastion of freedom on earth (you're mistaken if you think Canada or the U.K. are still free). This is why it is important that Americans stand their ground to prevent globalism - which will ultimately result in widespread acceptance of Islam and Sharia Law like a cancer. Muslims will rape our women, pillage our streets, and eliminate every cultural achievement of the West - and growing political correctness will encourage it, shaming anyone who disagrees. The culture of Islam is incapable of assimilation, as many of its core tenants are in direct opposition to, what we consider, our God-given human rights. We have already witnessed this phenomenon throughout Africa, Europe, and Asia.

[–]ifelsedowhile 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's time for him to start identifying as a woman. Less or no jail time.

[–]InBaggingArea 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Weird thing is the Nazis almost prosecuted someone for doing this way back when.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12139150

And actually, if anyone should be offended, it should be Nazis.

[–]nforne 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Totally. I grew up in 1970s/80s Britain, and the World Wars were very prominent in every kid's mind. We played in abandoned air raid shelters, played army, had model planes and tanks, and collected war souvenirs, even German ones. We watched war movies, read Spike Milligan's books and laughed at John Cleese upsetting German guests in Fawlty Towers.

My neighbour Josef had numbers tattooed on his wrist, yet he never minded when we goose-stepped around giving Hitler salutes. Nobody cared what we did, because our behaviour was intended to poke fun at the Nazis.

It changed when we became aware that most Germans had as little to do with the war as we did, that not all Germans were Nazis, and all of a sudden we weren't sure who we could make fun of any more. We stopped doing Hitler impressions to avoid upsetting young Germans, not to avoid upsetting Jews.

That's why I don't understand this shift. We absolutely should be allowed to ridicule Nazis if we wish, and any Brit who got taught a dog to give a Nazi salute in the 70s would have been a hero.

[–]Rethgil 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think its just a ploy from high up to divide and distract us and make us afraid to debate or speak freely, so we're less of a threat to the powers that be.

Fear is a great controller. Even more so when they get us blaming each other.

[–]v574v 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It showed how stupid nazis were that in 1941 a dog could be one.

In 2018 a person taught a dog to be a nazi and we are offended by the sacrilege?

[–]TheAfterman89 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a Scottish person this pisses me off so much. Bad enough he went to trial and was found guilty but it has dragged on for over a year. I'm curious to how much this has cost the taxpayer. We also have a ridiculous "Offensive Behaviour at Football" law which is hopefully soon to be abolished but wouldn't surprise me if it's not.

[–]viper12a1a 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The UK never had free speech. That's a purely American idea.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Imagine being jailed for a hand gesture

[–]bullseyed723 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

It already was in Europe a long time ago. That ship sailed in 1776.

[–]KeineStrategie -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

What are you trying to say?

[–]ThePigmanAgain 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think he's trying to say that the Mayflower arrived in 1776!

[–]pazz 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1776. That classic children's rhyme.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're confusing your nursery rhymes. Columbus jumped over the candle stick.

[–]KryptoPower77 -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Europe does not have free speech.

[–]KeineStrategie 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What does that have to do with 1776? How did the creation of the US ruin free speech in Europe?

[–]shydude92 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think what he’s trying to say is that Europe never really had free speech, and the US always did so free speech was never alive in Europe to begin with in Europe but still is and always was in the US. Of course, I totally disagree with OP’s reasoning on a number of fronts, but that’s the gist of what he’s trying to say I think

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The last people who wanted freedom broke from Europe (being part of a European country) in 1776 is his implication.

[–]Rethgil 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The people being locked up for it are not the people who should be locked up for it. The Farages and Boris Johnsons of this world. They are deliberately locking up innocent people to make us proles all scared to speak freely or protest against real issues. And its worked too.

One person objected to a post I made on the MRA and even the mod couldn't explain how it broke any Reddit rules-yet he banned the post anyway! We're all terrified of getting into trouble for harmless stuff.

[+]Frank_N_Berry1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

What does this have to do with Men's Rights?

[–]Glochidiate 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

/r/MensRights strongly supports principles of free speech.

This is in the sidebar, I think this sub would be interested in developments in free speech. There's also a court system angle to approach. If we're punishing people for offensive humor, my bet is this it is going to affect more in the court system than vice-versa.

I see your point, but it's not like we're posting soup recipes or something.

[–]PowerToAnnihilate 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

did you just say men's rights? You are a male supremacist? Hello 911, this man, mr u/Frank_N_Berry just committed an anti-woman hate crime.

We should arrest him.

Get it now?

[–]Rethgil 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Illustrates in the most simple terms the gap between the consequences of what happens when a man says or does something, even as a joke, compared to when a woman does things.

Remember the thing about feminists selling t-shirts saying 'kill all boys', and endless examples of how men are demonized by comparison for even the slightest comment about women.

[–]mwobuddy 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Gives new meaning to the term purebloods

[–]Sasha_ 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He should visit the U.S. consulate in Edinburgh and see if they're open to an asylum application.

[–]Rethgil 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My honest reaction now after some thought is he might have been better going the other way in his court case-claiming: "its not me, its the dog-hes an evil little racist bastard, you gotta save me from his influence!".

Just totally push the joke further as far as it will go, to demonstrate the lunacy of the whole thing and try to get media attention to report it as silly.

Obviously too late now, but I would hope he will appeal-so maybe there's time yet...!

(I'm sort of joking here, but part of me wonders if it might have worked, and it would have been even funnier too!)

[–]croidhubh 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is no freedom of speech in that area of the world.

[–]autotldr 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 79%. (I'm a bot)


A man is facing jail after he was convicted of a hate crime for uploading a video of him teaching his girlfriend's dog to give a Nazi Sieg Heil salute and respond excitedly to the phrase "Gas the Jews.".

Following outcry over the video, Meechan was arrested and charged with suspicion of a hate crime and an alleged breach of the electronic communications act.

Meechan denied the allegations and insisted he was not anti-Semitic, saying that teaching the dog to act like a Nazi was nothing more than a joke intended to upset his girlfriend.


Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: video#1 Meechan#2 dog#3 Jewish#4 people#5

[–]JJHearts 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So if a skin head trained his dog to seig heil whenever it saw a man wearing a kippah, he would have the same punishment?

[–]Rethgil 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Like the poor jailed man said "context is everything".

[–]PowerToAnnihilate 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you mean if a (insert protected group) taught their animal to do (insert offensive sign) when they see/get told an (offensive slur for a "non-protected group") will that (insert same protected group) go to jail?

My money is on no.

[–]Ultramegasaurus 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Knew it was UK when I read that headline. That country's law is a joke nowadays. Men are getting punished left and right for thoughtcrimes while women can hurt and kill men (or children even) and get away scot-free. It's absolutely the worst offender when it comes to granting pussypasses to women.

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