Does this data support the wage gap? Source and my layman analysis is described in the comments.

sme52 · 2012-05-11T17:42:21+00:00

I have yet to make a decision on the wage gap because I have yet to see data that controls for even the major variables. If someone could point me in the direction of a study (or data) that controls for years of experience, degree, and hours worked then I would be able to make a decision.

Demonspawn · 2012-05-11T17:15:22+00:00

They're not incorrect.

But they only say what they say: the average wages of men and women are different in most job fields. But that's all they say. It doesn't say why, it doesn't control for a large number of known factors (men tend to work more hours, for one).

If anyone wants to say that this is any sort of a proof of a "wage gap" then they need to look at the real terror: men only pay 10% of what women do for cosmetics! Not only do women earn less, apparently stores charge them more as well!!

dieganExPat · 2012-05-11T17:14:43+00:00

I stumbled on to this article this morning. I didn't give it much credence except for that it mentioned Rachel Maddow. The data they present seems to support their wage gap claim, breaking it down by job description.

I understand a number of things are not controlled for: hours worked per week and education level. I'll address these in a sec.

So I pulled the data from the source and deleted rows which did not include both men's and women's weekly pay. I then did a % of women's pay to men's pay, and multiplied it by the sample size for that job description. Summed up all the products, divided by the total number of samples. I figure I arrived at a solid weighted average of women's pay as a percentage of men's. The answer: 79.7%.

"But women work less hours" & "Men hold higher degrees" While there my be truth behind both of those statements, I don't believe those alone would account for a 20% difference.

I am a fan of /r/mensrights, not a shithead from SRS. I believed the data that typically gets presented stating once human capital, hours worked, and job description are controlled for, the wage gap "disappears." However, this data published by the US government does not seem to support that claim.

2012-05-11T18:19:25+00:00

It supports the wage gap in that a theory that blacks are more naturally violent would be supported by criminal convictions. Of course, that isn't true, but when you look at raw data like this it can support any number of wild claims. I suggest you check out the report linked below.

http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf

Title	Does this data support the wage gap? Source and my layman analysis is described in the comments.
Author	dieganExPat
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Comments	31
Date	May 11, 2012 5:07 PM UTC (14 years ago)
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