double-standards?

NotherThrowaway284 · 2020-02-03T02:42:09+00:00

in the overwhelming majority of cases, the female would be the one who would instigate the violent behaviour.

I've noticed the same.

The result of course, is that feminists quote statistics like, "90% of arrests for DV are men". This doesn't paint a true picture of the situation and simply makes it appear that only men are responsible for DV.

Statistics are feminists' favorite way of lying.

mgtowolf · 2020-02-03T03:02:16+00:00

Most of the western world operates under a variation of a feminist system called the duluth model. It basically says men are the bad guy when it comes to domestic disturbances.

Jackson2615 · 2020-02-03T04:17:39+00:00

Your real world experience is the most accurate. Feminism has taught women that they are always a victim of something or usually of someone ( cue white males) . Therefore men are supposed bad & this thinking has invaded the system including police, courts and law enforcement.

CommitZydecoPerverts · 2020-02-03T08:05:57+00:00

On review of DV case reports of recent years some researchers concluded that 50% of DV was reciprocal, while 35% was committed solely by the female and just 15% was committed solely by the male. Yet men were arrested far more often and females were almost never convicted of a DV charge but rather a lesser charge.

Mackowatosc · 2020-02-03T11:51:42+00:00

So, they guy was being arrested.for defence, really? After all, he was responding to an attack on himself..in that case, best response is lethal response, really.

RyansPutter · 2020-02-03T15:29:25+00:00

"But if we went to say, a pub brawl, the first question would be; "who threw the first punch?" Thats who would get arrested."

Pretty much. Once when I was bartending, a woman started a bar brawl that ended up with her getting a broken arm, but she was the one who was arrested because she punched a guy off a bar stool (and followed him onto the concrete floor, hence the broken arm) and attacked me when I tried to pull her boyfriend off the guy. If that had been domestic battery rather than simple battery, she would not have been arrested.

w1g2 · 2020-02-03T16:33:20+00:00

Mandatory and preferred arrest policies and predominant aggressor policies are insanely biased in favor of women.

"Dual arrest was more common in intimate partner cases if the primary offender was female and/or 21 or older" and "dual arrest rates decreased when: The primary offender was male (60 percent less likely)."

So when the perceived primary offender was male, only he would go to jail, but when the perceived primary offender was female, both she and her male partner would go to jail.

" In situations with a female offender, officers are three times more likely to make a dual arrest. Additionally, officers are more likely to make a dual arrest when the incident involves a homosexual couple. These rates may be related to sex role stereotyping. "

For some reason, dual arrests are considered something to be lowered, I'm going to guess because they mean women will actually be involved.

"Question: How can we lower dual arrest rates?

Answer: Dual arrest rates are highest in states with mandatory arrest laws and no policies that require officers to arrest only the primary offender. These policies are called primary aggressor provisions. States who wish to lower dual arrest rates may wish to institute primary aggressor laws. Police departments may wish to institute primary aggressor policies."

"The International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP) defines “predominant aggressor” as “the individual who poses the most serious, ongoing threat, which may not necessarily be the initial aggressor in a specific incident.”[1] The IACP also informs law enforcement officers that they are “expected to arrest any person who commits a criminal act(s) of intimate partner violence—unless there is a clear and compelling reason not to arrest (self-defense determination, lack of probable cause)—after a comprehensive investigation to identify the predominant aggressor.”[2]

"Mandatory arrest laws, while originally-well intentioned, resulted in a greater number of arrested women in domestic violence cases.[3] Victims may utilize violence to pre-emptively avert an attack from the aggressor or in self-defense. However, law enforcement may improperly assess or document these situations, or even allow incidents to go unacknowledged.[4] Batterers may try to convince the police that the violence was mutual or that they are the victim."

Predominant aggressor policies are now favored because women will be less likely to be arrested.

"Mandatory arrest laws, while originally-well intentioned, resulted in a greater number of arrested women in domestic violence cases...To avoid arresting a victim, law enforcement officers should ensure that they determine which party is the predominant aggressor. Police can help to do so by asking the following [including]:

Is there a physical size difference between the parties?

Who appears to be more capable of assaulting the other?

Does either party express fear of the other?

drpepper02 · 2020-02-03T16:43:39+00:00

Feminists love to play both sides when it suits their cause. They’ll stand up and say most wars are started by men.

True, but what they fail to acknowledge is that for all the evil men may have done throughout history, women have stood right along side those very men reaping the rewards of their actions.

When men are being violent and aggressive in a woman’s behave then it’s okay.

auMatech · 2020-02-03T06:36:07+00:00

i agree in the sense that if a woman hurts a man the bruise may not show up but if a man hits a woman it definitely will.

the reason why people say 'never hurt a woman' is for 2 reasons. 1. we are physically weaker. 2. we could be pregnant.

if i climbed on top of my boyfriend he could easily push me off. if he climbed on top of me i wouldn't be able to breathe properly or move. this is just one example. many women may be stronger than me.

however, there is an injustice but theres not much that can be done if men refuse to support other men. and the media would have to change. if you look at children's charities it always depicts a man being the abuser. a lot of people that have messed up childhood's say it was their mother that caused it.

Title	double-standards?
Author	Rolaid-Tommassi
Upvotes	90
Comments	17
Date	February 3, 2020 2:24 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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