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Dutch doctors should discourage the circumcision of boys, even from Jewish and Muslim families, says the Royal Dutch Medical Association (KNMG)

MarcoVincenzo

November 12, 2011

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http://www.bioedge.org/index.php/bioethics/bioethics_article/9825

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Title	Dutch doctors should discourage the circumcision of boys, even from Jewish and Muslim families, says the Royal Dutch Medical Association (KNMG)
Author	MarcoVincenzo
Upvotes	54
Comments	39
Date	November 12, 2011 5:39 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/m9wn9/dutch_doctors_should_discourage_the_circumcision/
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Compared to what percent of the nerve endings in the pubic area? I don't know. Can't find that statistic. Cite yours?

Anywho. Here:

Female genital mutilation is classified into four major types.

Clitoridectomy: partial or total removal of the clitoris (a small, sensitive and erectile part of the female genitals) and, in very rare cases, only the prepuce (the fold of skin surrounding the clitoris).
Excision: partial or total removal of the clitoris and the labia minora, with or without excision of the labia majora (the labia are "the lips" that surround the vagina).
Infibulation: narrowing of the vaginal opening through the creation of a covering seal. The seal is formed by cutting and repositioning the inner, or outer, labia, with or without removal of the clitoris.
Other: all other harmful procedures to the female genitalia for non-medical purposes, e.g. pricking, piercing, incising, scraping and cauterizing the genital area.

It seems like girls tend to lose most of their feel good parts. I know that nerve endings are removed in male circumcision, but if you're going to compare the two...

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"Oppression olympics?" How am I trolling? Calm down. I am not derailing this topic by talking about FGM. Syntrel brought it up first:

Also it amazes me how many feminists argue that circumcision or male genital mutilation is not as harmful as female genital mutilation...

That's what I was responding to. Pardon me for having an opinion and providing input. There's no reason for you to be so hostile.

The first link you provided me is a pro-FGM site. I don't really trust any of the information there, if you'll forgive me. I'm fairly certain you wouldn't trust any of the information I sent you from a male site of the same nature. However, if you read the conclusion on the second site:

CONCLUSION: Embryology, anatomy, and physiology of female erectile organs are neglected in specialist textbooks. In infibulated women, some erectile structures fundamental for orgasm have not been excised. Cultural influence can change the perception of pleasure, as well as social acceptance. Every woman has the right to have sexual health and to feel sexual pleasure for full psychophysical well-being of the person. In accordance with other research, the present study reports that FGM/C women can also have the possibility of reaching an orgasm. Therefore, FGM/C women with sexual dysfunctions can and must be cured; they have the right to have an appropriate sexual therapy.

To me this sounds like they only reasons they've managed to do this are that their cultures have enabled it or they've figured out their own way to feel pleasure without the standard parts.

Are you trying to say that MGM is worse than FGM? I don't think you are, but that's what it seems like.

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