Earnings gap- Where do you stand?

Arn13 · 2013-10-24T23:21:47+00:00

The problem with your suggestion of compensating women for their natural tendency to make less financially rewarding decisions, is that those decisions give women benefits in other areas of life that men do not have. Thus, if you are going to compensate women because they tend to put less priority on work, then you should compensate men for the areas of life in which THEY miss out. It will become an endless web of compensations and entitlements from both sides.

I think people should just make the decisions that they want. So what that what they want is affected by biology? They still want it, they still make their own choices in freedom, so they should be willing to live with both the positive and negative consequences of those choices.

2013-10-24T23:51:38+00:00

Actions have consequences. If people aren't willing to accept the consequences (such as less pay over their lifetime), then they shouldn't make the choices that lead to those consequences.

Personal responsibility. We need more of it.

EvilPundit · 2013-10-24T23:21:46+00:00

On the other hand, we could accept that women have a tendency to make less money due to biological differences, and simply pay them more on the dollar to compensate.

Or we could simply pay them for as much work as they're willing to do, just like men.

I don't think that proposal is any sort of solution at all. It's just blatant sexism.

themountaingoat · 2013-10-25T01:47:21+00:00

Letting women have the same earnings that men do while still having all the lifestyle benefits they receive from the career choices they make is the worst idea ever.

How is women choosing to prioritize quality of life at the cost of pay a problem?

godjustice · 2013-10-25T03:11:37+00:00

Having kids and choosing to leave the work force is a decision a person makes. Allow anyone the capability to make that decision then the wage gap due to this factor would start to equalize naturally. Right now in the US and some other countries there is no mandatory parental leave at all. Add onto the fact that fewer companies allow parental leave at all for men while giving it for women. Who is more likely to leave the work force? The person who was just on leave for 8 weeks and have been used to raising the child day in and day out or the person who has been working everyday.

If governments and/or companies gave out mandatory paid parental leave for both parents there would be a higher chance of the man choosing to leave to work force and become a stay at home father.

Companies also give a lot more options for women than men when it comes to flexibility of working and raising a child. There will remain the natural stigma for many years to come that women raise the child and men work. It's tolerated anytime a women has to leave to office to take care of a child. A man is looked at differently if he chooses this work-life balance more. Once again, if governments and/or companies gave out equal parental leave then this attitude would also start to change.

rightsbot · 2013-10-24T23:08:17+00:00

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2013-10-25T07:56:08+00:00

When this comes up, I ask this : Is it really a tragedy to work less and earn less?

rapiertwit · 2013-10-25T10:26:11+00:00

When you get right down to it, men's and women's biological wiring are both about one thing: caring for the next generation. Be careful what you try to fix.

lazernerd · 2013-10-25T15:11:17+00:00

The pay gap is nonsense because people presume it means women are receiving less pay while earning the same benefits as men; which is simply false. Women who earn less money performing the same job as a man (with the same experience and skills) get better benefits in the form of a more flexible work schedule and time off.

It's a trade off. Women are in no way losing out by choosing one path over another.

cripfemme · 2013-10-26T04:56:07+00:00

My only issue is if a man and a woman have the same job and don't get paid the same. However, I think all K to 12 educators need a big raise- right know, without regard to an educator's gender. They do important work 5 days a week, for a minimum of 30 hours!

Estephe · 2013-10-26T11:47:21+00:00

Earnings gap. I work more I earn more. That is where I stand.

Is it fair that some men are taller than others -- and get back problems from using "fair" (average) furniture?

This "fair" talk is dumb talk.

ArstanWhitebeard · 2013-10-25T02:51:40+00:00

If the reason women earn less than men is biological, then there's no fixing it in a just way.

If we fix that biological inequality, then we should also fix other biological inequalities, such as athleticism and intelligence by giving dumb people more jobs and less athletic people more spots on the varsity basketball team.

It's Harrison Bergeron. And I don't think anyone wants that.

Title	Earnings gap- Where do you stand?
Author	danredux
Upvotes	0
Comments	13
Date	October 24, 2013 11:06 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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