False rape allegations 'devastating'.

jack_gats · 2013-03-13T07:44:26+00:00

The title of the article is OK. But read on:

"She believes false allegations aren't as common as people think"

"There is a difference between 'false accusations' and 'not enough evidence'," said Dianne."

"False accusations account for only 5% of all reported cases."

These quotes appear towards the end of the article. Then comes the closing note: "Dianne says young women should feel sure their story will be believed when they come forward." No less, mind you.

What else to expect from a well-functioning propaganda machine like the BBC?

unexpecteditem · 2013-03-13T11:05:38+00:00

If you are, or think you may be, a victim of rape you can get help and advice from Rape Crisis on 0808 802 9999 and in Scotland on 08088 01 03 02.

What if you're a victim of, you know, what the headline says the report is about: false allegation?

2013-03-13T09:23:33+00:00

"There is a difference between 'false accusations' and 'not enough evidence'," said Dianne. "False accusations account for only 5% of all reported cases.

The British Home Office study said 8%. Whoever is interviewing these people should be demanding sources when they quote statistics and then not publishing them if they are not citeable.

Lotus7 · 2013-03-13T10:09:15+00:00

The BBC are doing a radio phone-in soon on this. They're inviting people who've been falsely accused to call in. I expect they'll get more than 35 people (the number who have been convicted in 17 months) calling up. Should be an interesting listen.

unexpecteditem · 2013-03-13T10:59:30+00:00

Thanks for posting this, SM. From the article:

"There is a difference between 'false accusations' and 'not enough evidence'," said Dianne. "False accusations account for only 5% of all reported cases."

Rape Crisis admits 5% of accusations are false. Isn't that some kind of record?

Best, UI

PierceHarlan · 2013-03-13T12:29:36+00:00

Dianne Whitfield from Rape Crisis England & Wales said this: "There is a difference between 'false accusations' and 'not enough evidence'," said Dianne. "False accusations account for only 5% of all reported cases."

Ms. Whitfield doesn't mention the fact that most rape claims fall into that gray hole where no one can say whether it was a rape or a non-rape. She seems to suggest that the 5% is the totality of false claims, and that the remaining 95% were actual rapes. That's as dishonest as it is wrong. What she fails to mention, and what every single study shows, is that, for all the claims that law enforcement can state definitively were either rapes or non-rapes (subtracting the gray claims), the wrongful claims constitute a significant percentage. That's a fact they won't talk about because it doesn't fit the preferred narrative.

kawaiigardiner · 2013-03-13T12:42:22+00:00

And when Dianne says 'not enough evidence' she actually means women who have second thoughts. Unless you were forced into having sex then just be an adult, admit that it probably wasn't the smart move to have sex with that particular person and then fucking well move on with life. Honestly, what is it with societies moddle-coddling of women to the point that they're viewed as little more than over grown children with the emotional capacity of a lima bean.

Lotus7 · 2013-03-13T23:27:28+00:00

So I listened to the phone-in I mentioned in my other post. The people they had on from the CPS (Crown Prosecution Service) and a policewoman as well both said figures were low and that it was a rare crime.

The host asked why people made these accusations, and the policewoman said it was because the women either didn't understand what constituted rape, or they had mental health issues, or they were drunk at the time of the incident. No mention of 'revenge' or malicious intent.

Then ALL the men who phoned in (and a boy's mother who was calling on his behalf, him having been accused of rape at 17) who had been falsely accused and then cleared said it was because they'd said something that had upset the woman, or they'd ignored her, or they simply didn't know.

One guy, who'd actually got back together with the woman who accused him (facepalm), said she'd told him it was because he'd asked her to leave after having sex with him and she felt upset.

DerickBurton · 2013-03-13T23:37:40+00:00

The guardian had a piece with saying how false allegations were extremely rare. Someone linked to the bbc article in the comments and they started sending letters of complaints because it did not state how terrible rape is.

Title	False rape allegations 'devastating'.
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