When misandrists are denying misandry being a real thing (which we all know is false, it's very real as well as being harmful and destructive), they also like to claim it's supposedly not systemic/instititonal like misogyny supposedly is. But just how is that the case in the West when there's actually numerous institutional hurdles men/boys face? Like how horrendously misandrist schools and courts are against them and have been for decades. Numerous other examples too like men still having to register for conscription, denying due process when a potentially innocent male is falsely accused, no abuse shelters for male victims and society still failing to recognize male victims of violence, abuse, rape, murder, trafficking, etc. (especially when by women). It's so irritating and infuriating. I know I shouldn't be so upset by what ignorant idiots online like this spew along with their countless hive-minded followers, but that this way of thinking is largely accepted as truth and so widespread is maddening. Misandry and misogyny are both real and bad things, but the former has infinitely more evidence proving it's actually very institutional whereas the latter has to little to no evidence showing. Unless one's definition of institutional or systemic is for something to get plenty of attention or activism or condemnation, something misogyny frequently does while misandry is dismissed and treated as a joke.