I need help

Mr_MRAnarchist · 2017-10-20T12:29:31+00:00

I really hope you weren't expecting people (even family) to give a fuck about the "problems" men face. Our society was build by disposable men. It continues to be run by disposable men. You can try to change views, and opinions, by talking about them, but at the end of the day, you will just need to accept that this is how most of society is, and accept it.

You need to learn to be okay with how things are, and move forward trying to change it. This is the choice you made when you took the red pill. You don't get to be one of the sheep any more... sorry.

IronJohnMRA · 2017-10-20T13:01:44+00:00

I need a slimmer of hope

From now on you will have two lives. One MRA, one with family, friends, co-workers, etc. Keep these these two lives separate. Once you can do that, everything will fall into place. I've done this for over a decade and have been exactly where you are now. This separation works, and will keep you going.

NtWEdelweiss · 2017-10-20T22:16:33+00:00

Guys, I've Read your reactions and I feel a lot better now! Just writing it down was a huge help but seeing people reach out, thats what helps me and probably others the most! Its good to know that there are at least some people who care! Thank You so much!

In know what to work on now if I want to survive let alone add to this community. This down point will hopefully make me stronger in the end as well thanks to all of You! Last time, thank You all!

Dembara · 2017-10-20T13:41:07+00:00

Be excessively cordial in any discussion. Try and separate it. You don't have to get into the arguments with them: it is not worth ruining your family life. It is unfortunate, but the best thing to do.

Also, try just bringing up nuance. Imply that you agree with them (i.e. "You may be write, though I think things could be a bit more complex than that. Have you considered [insert relevant statistic (example: if talking about domestic violence, mention how Harvard studies show there is a near symmetry in domestic violence, though concede that more hospitalizations are female victims)])

Really, you need to take time for yourself, to relax. Know there are many people shifting to support at least some men's issues. It is going to be a long struggle, but there is some traction on the road ahead. Also, consider professional help by someone who would be somewhat sympathetic if you can find someone.

somefinfishy · 2017-10-20T15:08:49+00:00

I stopped posting any views on facebook years ago, an anonymous discussion is far easier than an open one with work colleagues and family. You can't choose those people to be in your circle and you can't expect them to agree with you. These issues have gone on for years and will continue when we're gone just do what you can to make the world better for you now..

0vesper0 · 2017-10-20T21:52:43+00:00

It's been a couple hours since you posted this, so I hope things are going better.

Because I didn't see the conversation you were referring to, it's difficult to know why there was so much tension between what you and your family/fb people were trying to convey. With that said, I can imagine how frustrating and tiring it must be to have your ideas outright ignored. Do you have a safe person you can talk to? Like, someone who is willing to listen without being overly critical?

Regardless, you did the right thing by writing down your thoughts to discuss with others. If the feeling still lingers, I'd suggest writing your uncensored thoughts in a private text document. That way you can clearly express frustrations without any judgment. It also gives you a chance to revisit your ideas later, see how you can refine them, and explain them better for future conversations.

Let me know if there's more you want to say.

2017-10-20T23:21:52+00:00

I gave up FB, I gave up LinkedIn, I gave up Twitter ... social media lends itself to rapid assessments, surface level thinking, and emotional reactions. Do your work as an MRA offline. Online, be nice as pie.

I used to have two accounts on FB, but they started cracking down on duplicates, even though there's a perfectly legitimate reason why MRAs need a second account, as you clearly found out.

Don't risk employment or school. Just do everything face to face.

Title	I need help
Author	NtWEdelweiss
Upvotes	15
Comments	17
Date	October 20, 2017 12:23 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/77lq2m/i_need_help/
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