I'm the asshole

iainmf · 2015-06-20T08:00:58+00:00

She projected her bigotry onto you. It sucks to be treated like shit because other people are small minded, there's not much you can do, but the shitty feeling will pass.

SirSkeptic · 2015-06-20T09:01:08+00:00

Next time you might mention that it is 60 years of feminist lies and propaganda that make many women afraid of men. If they want to abuse anyone they should find a feminist.

Men are much more likely than women to experience violence in their lives but, because there is no multi-billion dollar fear machine pointed at us, we're less afraid.

You asked a completely valid question: Why are you afraid?

chafedinksmut · 2015-06-20T10:54:58+00:00

I bet she's exactly the sort who will whine, "And where have all the good men gone, SHITLORD!?"

SigmundFloyd76 · 2015-06-20T12:32:49+00:00

Hey brother, we're all "the asshole" sometimes.

If it's any consolation, I know you're not an asshole for expressing reality. We now live in the age of the "facebook feminist"; ignorant people who are easily swayed by blatant propaganda.

Rest easy, things are changing.

hork23 · 2015-06-20T12:26:23+00:00

They are learned in being incendiary and hostile, don't bother wasting emotional energy on these types of people. Realize they are brain washed and for the most part can't help their idiocy and be calm when responding to them if you do decide to interact. Whomever keeps their cool wins, so instead of trying to prove your ideas to be correct (won't work so don't bother) change your objectives and expectations in conversations so you are not as emotionally charged. It takes practice to be detached from your personal beliefs when debating them.

Ted8367 · 2015-06-20T12:50:58+00:00

I proceeded by telling her to fuck herself and walking away.

Correct.

I cant sleep.

Not correct. It's not worth bothering with.

I'm livid about the casual way she threw around such insulting terms.

Forget it. It's all you can expect from these worthless people. They'll never change.

azazelcrowley · 2015-06-20T09:25:32+00:00

You could have pointed out that whites in south africa were paranoid about black people too, and look how they ended up 60 years later.

wisty · 2015-06-20T11:40:48+00:00

If teaching women to say "no" (loudly, clearly, with escalation to shouting for help) is enough to prevent the vast majority of rapes, then anyone who opposes it is part of "rape culture".

If mattress girl's tape is an accurate portrayal of events, and she didn't escalate saying "no" to shouting for help because she just couldn't think straight at the time, then this is a perfect example of the kind of thing that can be prevented with a little education to women.

The fact that they are worried about random strangers attacking them, not watching their drinks, or thinking about what to say if a make-out session goes wrong, is proof that they are very badly educated on the actual dangers. Or they're far more worried about actual rape, and not "rape culture rape" (in which women who aren't sure they want to sleep with a guy, but do it because otherwise he might lose interest are somehow victims).

Vanryker · 2015-06-20T13:32:19+00:00

These people are masters of red herrings.

Lethn · 2015-06-20T10:06:01+00:00

Now when it comes to the whole mattress girl thing, I'm on the fence, innocent until proven guilty and all that, I don't want to see real rape victims caught up in this bullshit.

The thing is, I've actually been studying tactics like this, mainly because of news 'journalists' in the BBC and the like here in the UK using it. They WANT you to get defensive and walk away, they want you to get flustered and you just walked into that. That way, if you start trying to tell your side of the story they'll just say "Oh, well, I said he was a racist and he didn't even deny it and just walked away" and they can keep repeating that and because you haven't said anything obviously to the contrary people will believe it.

It's a really petty tactic people like this are using so they can try and paint entire groups, don't fall for it. Better to just talk about equal rights for both genders and fair judicial process until you keel over and then they'll look like total scumbags.

This is how they establish the racist and misogynistic narrative, don't fall for it, it's very easy to get drawn into their argument with false accusations, control the flow of the battle and you win, don't let them control you.

R50cent · 2015-06-20T14:01:07+00:00

They can 'feel' however they so please. A feeling has little to do with reality.

When we're children we 'feel' like there's a monster I our closet so we get scared at night, but just because we're afraid doesn't mean we have any reason to be.

Same thing goes when it comes to being offended. I offended you by what I said? So what? Chances are if I'm having an argument with a radical feminist, most everything they say will offend me in one way or another. Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right.

sillymod · 2015-06-20T14:40:18+00:00

Rants go to /r/MensRants.

thehumungus · 2015-06-20T14:43:46+00:00

I proceed to tell her that she doesn't know what she's talking about.

This is going to lead to pretty hostile arguments.

ashlaaaaay · 2015-06-20T14:53:54+00:00

what country?

FurriesRuinEverythin · 2015-06-20T12:48:09+00:00

I was sitting talking about politics with some of my friends

There's your problem. You choose to have conversations about things of a political nature, which can be rather sensitive and bring out some crazy opinions and cause people to become offended. This is obvious to most people who have these kind of discussions - that they can become heated and aren't for the light hearted. And then you get surprised when discussion turns in a way that you don't like and becomes heated? If you're seething with so much anger so long after it happened then you probably shouldn't discuss things like political issues with people. Unless you come to an echo chamber like reddit where everyone will agree with you and give you arse pats.

Wargame4life · 2015-06-20T08:34:29+00:00

I proceeded by telling her to fuck herself and walking away. I cant sleep. I'm livid about the casual way she threw around such insulting terms.

lol hilarious, no offense but you sound pretty fucking pathetic in my eyes, if some morons started ranting about deluded bullshit like mattress girl and lay into me like she did, i would simply laugh in her face and walk away, i would do the same if someone laid into me about shapeshifting blood drinking lizards.

feminists like her are no different than conspiracy morons.

the fact you actually care and get your feathers ruffled by such idiocy shows you are giving too much credit or significance to their POV. which is a shame on you.

there is no point trying to win over "Crazy" just laugh and ignore her in your life.

Title	I'm the asshole
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Upvotes	28
Comments	41
Date	June 20, 2015 7:45 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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