Is Avoiding Fatherhood an Indication of Responsibility?

aetheralloy · 2011-11-11T05:29:01+00:00

The guys I know who had children early weren't mature, they just came inside their girlfriend and screwed up both their lives.

The guys I know who had children later weren't mature, they just thought they were supposed to and divorced shortly later. They are the bitterest now.

When I think about who is stable and mature, it's the guys who can control their sperm release and didn't buy into 'guys have to give women babies and provide for them'. They are MGTOW

NiceGuysSTFU · 2011-11-11T05:39:02+00:00

Having children is one of the worst mistakes a man can make in a country like America. I'd actually like to have kids one day, but I wont even consider it until some measure of basic fairness is brought to family law.

If your wife/gf decides to leave you and take the kids, you will be raked over the coals in family court. You will never get to see your kids, and the ultra onerous child support payments the judge will inevitably award her will put you on the streets. If you allow a woman to carry your children, your life will be in her hands until said children reach 21. She will have the power to utterly obliterate your person, and she can do so with state sanction.

Until family courts stop treating fathers like cash cows and disposable sperm donors, I will be guarding my seed with my life.

AnnArchist · 2011-11-11T14:39:07+00:00

The ones who are, objectively speaking, less responsible are those most likely to be fathers

To be fair, thats true. They failed to pull out when they weren't actively trying to have kids. . .

SpawnQuixote · 2011-11-11T17:37:53+00:00

I don't have kids and I'm loving life. I'm over 40, have a steady girlfriend who has her act together, go traveling, own 2 cars, 2 motorcycles, a boat, a beach house and lots of toys.

I dropped out of society when I saw my uncles and brothers get reamed by the court system. They paid the equivalent of a house payment in Aspen for their kids they rarely got to see because mom decided she wanted out.

Fuck the system. I pay my taxes, have a good time, not worried about the future. Fuck the future. That's how I fight the gender war.

FreddyDeus · 2011-11-11T18:55:21+00:00

No. But having kids isn't necessarily an indication of responsibility either.

Malkor · 2011-11-11T21:06:54+00:00

amongst my acquaintances, mainly middle-class professional males, fatherhood is quite rare

That doesn't surprise me in the least. When I was in college I didn't hang out with anyone who was a father either. The author doesn't know many people with children, because that's who he chooses to surround himself with.

Avoiding fatherhood isn't an indication of anything, unless you have a child and tell it to get lost. And you can't blame that on feminism.

MRMRising · 2011-11-13T01:20:09+00:00

Avoiding fatherhood and marriage is not an indication of responsibility, it is a Legal and Financial necessity.MGTOW is the only viable option left for men.

Title	Is Avoiding Fatherhood an Indication of Responsibility?
Author	MrStinkybutt
Upvotes	11
Comments	23
Date	November 11, 2011 5:13 AM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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