MRM blueprint for bridge building

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Feminism has the goal of equality. It has been swallowed up by nothing

No, it wasn't swallowed up by anything... it simply became itself. That's the problem with "equality": it doesn't exist.

The simple fact of the matter is that there are biological differences between men and women. One of them that is downright important to this whole "equality" business is that men are more diverse than women. As I like to say it: Mother nature was too smart to waste reproductive potential on environment testing.

Now here's the problem: the bell curves. Since men's standard deviations are larger, there are more men than women in the top 1%. Of course the same is true of the bottom 1%, but women aren't clamoring to be equal there, now are they? Because of this biological difference, women will never have a 50/50 share of the top positions in society because of those qualified there isn't even close to a 50/50 distribution of the genders.

So what does that mean? A never ending push to "fix" the "problem" of women not being 50/50 at the top... all of which is based on a bullshit belief in equality which doesn't exist. And that's how feminism became even more and more radical, because no matter how hard they've pushed (and will continue to push) they still just can't get "equality" at the top that they honestly believe should be there because they refuse to accept the fundamental biological differences between the genders.

And what does that never ending push do? Well it creates the vast majority of the problems the MRM face. And I'll tell you right now: doubling down on the push for equality just might fix the problem, but it will do so by destroying society and forcing us to return to a system which makes sense or face death.

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These are all valid points, but I think you are missing the main thrust of what I am actually trying to accomplish.

I 100% agree that equality, real equality, is a fools goal. It will never exist between the sexes, because it can't. We are not equal.

But as a vehicle for pursuing changes in thinking and in some of the more overt forms of discrimination, it is an essential value. Mainly because people are able to wrap their heads around a concept like "equality" and apply it functionally (and I argue less dangerously) than matters much harder to nail down, like "justice"

Giving us the target of saying that a man or a woman going 9 mph over the speed limit should both be treated exactly the same, or that if men can vote, women should also have that right, also extends to matters like MGM, reproductive rights for men, due process in criminal mattes, etc. etc.

I understand the dangers of the never ending push for a form of equality that does not exist, because we go back to human limitations and stupidity. But the fact remains that equal treatment under the law is attainable in many ways, even if not in others.

And if, in the end, we end up in a society that must form a system that makes sense or face death, I could not imagine a better place for society to be.

I never thought we would get out of this without paying the dues for our mistakes.

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But the fact remains that equal treatment under the law is attainable in many ways, even if not in others.

Unfortunately no. As long as society continues to give women inherent value due to the potential of reproduction, society will not treat women as disposable as it treats men. One great example of this is women's "defenses" vs murder charges that men will not be allowed to use.

Due to this difference in disposability, it is impossible to maintain a system of equal responsibility. And equal rights without equal responsibility is a system of moral hazard that has created the clusterfuck that is currently collapsing our society.

The way out is not through; the way out is to choose a different direction, one that actually works, and pursue that path.

Otherwise we will come full steam ahead into the collapse, and that will not be pretty at all. I'd rather pay the dues in smaller pieces as we correct back to a sustainable path rather than all at once which will cost many more lives overall.

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An honest real solution? We need to demolish the federal government and return it to nothing more than it was pre 1920-ish. Then the States will once again have power and states can be run in the direction it's citizens desire. That means, yes, California can be an liberal idiot cesspool, but say Kansas or Montana will have it's own more conservative or traditionalist culture. But due to freedom of movement between the States, a citizen of the USA can choose their own community and live the way they want to live.

When it's done at a State level, instead of at the federal level, you can actually have liberal States and various Conservative States co-existing. It's like having both sides of this problem able to be there at the same time.

Honest, Conservatives have been more than willing to allow Liberals to run their own States into the ground however they wish. It's been Liberals who have refused to allow Conservatives to have their own areas.

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Feminists, like all Leftists, use the myth of equality to push their hateful ideology. On the surface, feminists claim women are equal to (or better than) men. In reality, this "equality" is only a myth they use to excuse their hatred.

Feminists want privileges for women above all else.

I want a stable, thriving society above all else.

Feminists and MRAs who want to force the myth of equality on us want the same thing: equality, which cannot exist. They push for the same policies, and they lead to the same result: destruction of civilization.

On the other hand, I want roles for men and women that make sense because history has proven this is the only viable way to keep civilization stable and thriving.

Here's an article for more info: http://www.amerika.org/politics/an-offer-you-cant-refuse/

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Title	MRM blueprint for bridge building
Author	avoiceformen
Upvotes	42
Comments	73
Date	September 24, 2012 9:23 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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