On Milo Yiannopoulos

Lethn · 2016-03-05T11:47:43+00:00

I think you're misunderstanding a lot of his arguments and points, while he's certainly blunt a lot of what he says is precisely to offend you and in particular the feminists that come to protest him, it's trolling, if you're getting that upset by it then he's pretty much doing a good job.

While I don't necessarily agree with everything he says, I'll address your points about him 'hating homosexuals' what he hates is the way they act, how they represent themselves and how they claim to represent him. Which is something I actually empathise with as somebody who has beliefs that puts me at odds with both sides of the political compass.

I think he's wrong about the gay lobby 'inventing' biological attraction towards men and Gad Saad argued with him about that before. However he's certainly right about how they carry themselves and the way they treat their opponents and the amount of crap he gets over being a gay conservative catholic is ridiculous. That kind of smug arrogance is going to get you the worst sorts of responses and people have just had enough of these cunts who think that unless you cater to their pre-conceived prejudices or stereotypes that there's something automatically wrong with you.

He's attacking people who believe he holds the 'wrong' opinions about something, even when he's actually correct. They can't respect the fact that he has different opinions from all these bullshit stereotypes about certain political ideologies and that people can have mixed views about various subjects, feel strongly on others and not as much otherwise.

I think he's actually quite a bit more sophisticated than you would like to believe and you haven't analysed him properly, he's saying these things precisely to piss people off and offend them because it so fucking easy. Especially when it comes to university speeches you'll see that merely even talking about free speech and expression is enough to get these morons riled up.

While he's not correct on everything ( No one will be ) he does make some fair points if you actually listen and don't give into his taunting which is basically what he's doing and you're falling for it.

As for him falling back on being gay, well what do you expect? People are trying to make all sorts of bullshit assertions normally associated with straight white guys like how he's a misogynist or he's just wanting to fuck girls etc. Of course he's going to use being gay as an argument against stupid comments like that, it stumps them every time, they're expecting him like everybody else to shrivel up or get defensive so they can silence him with shame about who he is.

Another thing to point out is that the reason he ends up having to do this so often is because feminists/SJWs are so utterly repetitive and seem to be only capable of talking in soundbytes and buzzwords which drastically reduces the quality of the debate.

It would be interesting if there were any feminists out there who were capable of stringing together a coherent sentence but almost all of them resort to either screaming or violence when people like Milo don't back down. When the opposing side is that stupid there really is no need to be polite or try to argue with them properly anymore.

CrazyInAnInsaneWorld · 2016-03-05T08:58:50+00:00

He's managed to make a good counter to the crazies on the Regressive Left. Furthermore, he has a valid point in that nobody agrees to debate him. Whether or not it's because they know they'll lose, is another matter, but therein lies the beauty of the simplicity of the claim. In order to prove him wrong, all they would have to do is debate him. But they won't even do the one very simple thing that would take most of the wind out of his sails, egotistically speaking. It really speaks to how much they know they're full of shit, when they don't even try to debate the guy punching proverbial rhetorical cannonshots all up and down their hull.

Is he egotistical? Sure. Is he an asshole? Yup, but so what? I'm an asshole, too, and 'I'm offended' is not a valid rebuttal to anything. Unless he starts shilling for feminism and advocating to restrict the rights of men, I see no reason to alienate such a useful and tenacious ally, even if I do find myself disagreeing with his personal politics from time to time.

Listen to any edgy commentator for long enough, and you'll start to grow a dislike for them. The Redhead has heard me listen to Sargon and Tommy Sotomayor so often, now, that she has an instant and instinctual revulsion to them...and it's not even because of what they say, it's the context and phrasing it's couched in. I see Milo as no different, given enough videos.

soalone34 · 2016-03-05T07:16:57+00:00

His a provocative journalist. It's hard to tell what are his actual opinions and what aren't. It seems, at least to me that when he argues with feminists he really means it from what I've seen of him.

DancesWithPugs · 2016-03-06T01:54:25+00:00

He's a professional jimmy rustler, not a leader. He's clever but obnoxious, and doesn't seem to have a lot of intellectual integrity. When pressed on a point he distracts or makes fun of the topic instead of ever admitting fault.

glsean · 2016-03-29T00:47:22+00:00

I agree completely and it irritates me that a lot of anti-feminists online give him the time day. He's smarmy and self agrandizing, relying more often than not making baseless arguments with people he doesn't agree with. Even though Rogan was a little brutish with him that showed his character. Oh I'm backed into a corner and can't pull the gay card. His logic is fallible, and he is the biggest opportunistic liar I've seen recently. Gamer gate and he talks shit about gamers, getting in with skeptics when he doesn't understand how science work and is a blindly devout Catholic.

CountVonVague · 2016-03-05T08:08:09+00:00

The dudes just an amusing, narcissistic opportunist who gets off on being transgressive. If/When shit catches up to him that's all on Milo, if he wants to be That One journalist covering what pretty much no one else will that fine by me.

SuperDanceParty · 2016-03-05T10:35:14+00:00

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boringcarpets · 2016-03-05T11:22:48+00:00

He can be, yes. But we need vocal people, people in the public eye bringing our issues to the fore. We have very few, if any, key voices out there - hardly anyone is getting to say what he's saying in the platforms he has and I'm happy to take the rough with the smooth with Milo

ghebert001 · 2016-03-05T16:28:59+00:00

I don't agree with everything he says and he's not our spokesperson...he doesn't claom to be and no one here appointed him. When he's right on something, he's right. Period.

B0u1dA · 2016-03-06T00:07:10+00:00

We wanted a Batman. We got the Joker.
He's articulate and there are points that I agree with him on but his support of Trump is suspect as he doesn't articulate how Trump would be good for America. If George Clooney or Channing Tatum stepped up, we'd be on a new level.

TheDude41 · 2016-03-06T04:01:51+00:00

eixan · 2016-03-06T13:03:42+00:00

All this dude does is align himself with whatever counterculture is flavor of the month (once GamerGate, then MR/anti-feminism, now Trump), appoints himself spokesperson/god-king, rakes in the Twitter followers and pleasures himself to the thought of 'being famous

Not true all his views are rooted in libertarianism. Which he makes clear here when he brutally bashes the left and the right.

https://youtu.be/eckDObOlSwk?t=21m11s

I don't mind too much what kinda of establishement people hate because I hate all of them.I'm not a fan, though I have catholic leaning of the religious right when it policies culture and when it blames video games and rock music for school shootings. That's bullocks.I also don't like it when the progressive lfet does it when it says that video games contribute to an atmosphere of sexism or an atmosphere of violence. We're never really very sure the harm is never measureable. The never explain to us just how this is going to be hurtful. They suggest that if you watch the wrong movies or play the wrong games your going to end up being a rapist or a killer.This is all bollocks.I don't want peole policing what I get before I get it.I don't want there to be an approve list of what I can consume, and I don't think it's very clear that the estiblisment on both sides of the aisle has completely failed.They failed on the economy.They failed on society.They fail to do anything.And far before I would vote for a terrifying robit crook I'll go for the crazy old man, because as bat-shit insane as sander is, and he is completely insane.He does at least the same thing as daddy does which is welcome in a era of terror and panic for the republican and the democratic party.I want them both to suffer.I want them both to be blown apart, and I want a new political realignment based on liberian majority in goverment forever.Who's only real belief is "you should leave me alone to do whatever the fuck I want"

I can see why you'd be quasi-confused as to what milo's positions are considering that since he works at briebart a conservative paper he's forced to reasonable stretch as much as possible the views he shares on conservatism because no other paper who would publish his reasonableness because they are all controlled by the cry-bullies. However the impression he gives off and how truthfull he sounds should have made you over look these things. Which is why I find it strange that you mostly criticize milo for the impression he gives off in your comment considering that he sounds more truthfull then most people speaking and it is in fact his forte.

Lowkeypeepee · 2016-03-06T23:36:54+00:00

I liked him on joe rogan podcast. Quite the character for sure.

rg57 · 2016-03-05T09:08:25+00:00

I agree.

However.... he's kind of all there is. :/

I would love for there to be an MRA who is as brash and persistent and quick-on-their-feet as Milo is, but who doesn't have Milo's bigot baggage.

I think the closest MRA to achieving that goal is Karen Straughn, but her calm, rational style (which is very much appreciated) doesn't bring the fire that Milo brings, and that MRM needs.

ee4m · 2016-03-05T14:58:22+00:00

He's certainly good at arguing against feminists, but I don't think the worshiping of him that you find in the mrm is a good idea though.

I saw an interview with him once, it wasn't a serious one but he made an awful remark about the british genocide in ireland, he basically blamed the irish for it.

And libertarianism is for the 1%. Any average person that supports it is a useful idiot.

TheDude41 · 2016-03-05T17:46:45+00:00

NUMBERS2357 · 2016-03-05T09:33:55+00:00

Trump supporter == dead to me.

...well, maybe not anyone who's a Trump supporter, but the ones who go around calling people "cucks" and saying fucked up racist shit, yeah.

tequilasundae · 2016-03-05T15:02:34+00:00

I first heard of Milo through The Joe Rogan Experience Podcast, and then later Dave Rubin's podcast. He made some valid points, but overall I found him to be an utter hypocrite. He brags about all the dicks he sucks, and the next second about how Catholic he is. Like Trump, he goes after people's physical appearance ( he can't mention Lena Dunham without saying how fat and ugly he thinks she is), and thinks he can deflect any and all criticism because 'hey I can say what I want because I'm a mincing fag'. As a liberal myself, and a pro-gay person (straight but not narrow),I think him trying to represent gays is like the NRA representing gun owners. He just says the most outrageous shit, like a gay Ann Coulter. Every time I have heard him whining about Memories Pizza, (because a gay man took some pizzas to his wedding and posted about it) he acts like it was the crime of the century. While I agree with some things about the 'regressive left', I think Dave Rubin or Christine Hoff Sommers and hell even Joe Rogan are better suited to discuss it.

Title	On Milo Yiannopoulos
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Date	March 5, 2016 6:31 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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