Police warned about using algorithms to decide who's locked up. Gender is used to decide who is remanded in custody. If you are male you will be remanded. What a surprise Northumbria Police use the software.

GrumpyDingo · 2017-11-16T16:37:16+00:00

Sandra Wachter, a lawyer and researcher in data ethics, AI and robotics at the Oxford Internet Institute said: "The coding community needs to be more diverse. If we only have white, male coders, of course the systems are going to be biased."

...because coders will do whatever they want and not what they're hired to do!... How delusional are these people?!?

furchfur · 2017-11-16T14:33:53+00:00

This is a court case waiting to happen. Someone needs to sue them for gender and race discrimination.

fonduman · 2017-11-16T16:48:17+00:00

Anyone else notice how much effort they put in so that they could say the algorithms are gender biased, without mentioning which gender exactly, and then brought in some useful idiot to imply that it's biased because it's written by white males, even though we know it's biased against males?

BlueOrange22 · 2017-11-16T18:06:17+00:00

Blatant discrimination. This is essentially one gender treated as a difference class of citizen by the court system.

The Harm Assessment Risk Tool (HART) uses historical data on offending to classify suspects as low, medium or high risk of offending. The tool uses information such as offending history, the type of crime a suspect has been accused of, their postcode and gender.

So a male is automatically considered a higher risk, no matter what? Yes even if type of crime is considered to, that gender is an independent factor means a man is still having "points" added by default.

But Silkie Carlo, Senior Advocacy Officer for Liberty, warned such systems should be seen as "at best advisory". She pointed to evidence from the US which suggested algorithms in the criminal justice system were more likely to incorrectly judge black defendants as having a higher risk of reoffending than white defendants.

It doesn't say anything about using race, but it does mention using gender. Why is she ignoring that?

Sandra Wachter, a lawyer and researcher in data ethics, AI and robotics at the Oxford Internet Institute said: "The coding community needs to be more diverse. If we only have white, male coders, of course the systems are going to be biased."

Why does being white and male mean someone can't make a fair program? And what does she mean, 'of course thats why its biased'? The program is already bias against men, so that doesn't make sense.

darkconfidantislife · 2017-11-16T16:47:32+00:00

As someone from the ML community, despite how much they cry about "bias in criminal algorithms" (which I 100% agree with), I guarantee you, they will never care about this because it affects men

mwobuddy · 2017-11-16T19:24:02+00:00

No different than algorithms that tell insurance companies to have higher rates for young male drivers.

aesopstortoise · 2017-11-16T20:04:50+00:00

It's Durham police not Northumbria, they are next door to each other.

UtherTheMemeBringer · 2017-11-16T23:38:36+00:00

When they use this software, are they already under arrest? Sounds like they have it set up at HQ and run your info while your sitting in a cell. Also, pretending that gender has no effect on the types of crimes committed is laughable.

autotldr · 2017-11-17T08:50:46+00:00

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)

Police should not keep suspects locked up because a computer program has told them they are likely to be offenders, a human rights group has told MPs. Algorithms that predict whether someone is a criminal based on past behaviour, gender and where they live could be "Discriminatory", Liberty said.

Durham Police have already launched a system which uses algorithms to help decide whether to keep a suspect in custody.

Ms Carlo said Liberty had requested data from Durham Police about how common the use of human discretion was in decisions using algorithms, but the request was rejected.

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ee4m · 2017-11-16T17:26:11+00:00

Fucking uk and america, right wing shit holes and a threat to men everywhere.

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