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/r/mildlyinfuriating has post about hypocrisy in 'body positivity', post locked by mods

McFeely_Smackup

May 16, 2022
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https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/uqlc59/body_positivity_only_applies_to_one_gender/
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Title /r/mildlyinfuriating has post about hypocrisy in 'body positivity', post locked by mods
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McFeely_Smackup

Upvotes 196
Comments 50
Date May 16, 2022 5:16 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ur0z6q/rmildlyinfuriating_has_post_about_hypocrisy_in/
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Comments

[–]AspirationsOfFreedom 52 points53 points54 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

ah yes. The option range from "dad bod" to "shredded"

Where is my "follower of nurgle" bodytype?

[–]mtpender 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Embrace the gifts of Papa Nurgle

[–]AspirationsOfFreedom 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Papa Nurgle loves all.

  • This message was brought to you by Death Guards.

[–]P_Blueblood 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bloated Bellies Sloughing Skins Purulent Pus Malodorous Miasma

And many more!

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

The top comments are "companies don't care they just want to make money", basically making the point that the plus-size female models aren't there to make women feel good, but to cynically appeal to the current zeitgeist and appear woke.

That is, of course, true. But looking at this screenshot is still jarring and says a few things:

  1. Body positivity is still seen as mostly a female thing only. It's almost like the male models are from an earlier era than the female ones. There have been a few body-positive campaigns involving men, but not many.
  2. Awareness of body dissatisfaction among men is still lagging far behind that of women. The issue only recently stopped being seen as a women's issue entirely.
  3. Myer is a mid-to-upscale department store with a largely female shopper base. Their target buyer for the men's underwear is probably mostly women. I've noticed ads targeted for men often have more realistic, cheerful and relatable male models, or focus more on the garment itself.

[–]TheDarkFantastic 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I see this a lot with ads involving cookouts or stuff like home Depot/Lowe's. Normal looking guys because that's their target for the ad

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Online gambling ads almost exclusively target men in my country. They always choose actors that have that "everyman" look, but not too unattractive.

[+]ContradictFate 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Body positivity is still seen as mostly a female thing because women have absolutely 0 accountability for ANYTHING in this day and age so why would they ever take onus for their horrific nutrition choices if they don't for anything else? Women are Cope Queen's and even if men weren't based in logic and could actually cope that their 450lbs body and fancy DD titties are beautiful, society wouldn't let them get away with that. Body positivity ends at where women's attraction for men stops, so that's why it doesn't really reach men. The only men that are body positive are the ones with blood type Soylent and have so much estrogen in their system that they basically emulate a woman anyways.

[–]RajaSonu 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women still control the large majority of consumer spending. Any male body positivity movement would quickly run into a wall since no corporations would support it the opposite is true for targeting fat women. Overweight women might actually controll the majority of consumer spending but I can prove that.

[–][deleted] 57 points58 points59 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Already locked by the moderator to prevent discussion that may go against the approved narrative.

[–]Silly-Activity-6219 50 points51 points52 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Yeah that’s the price of Reddit. Some subs, you learn the hard way that there is no guarantee of consequence or free speech.

When I get banned from them, I just shrug and move on - just accept they are echo chambers

[–]McFeely_Smackup[S] 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I've been around Reddit a while, and one thing I've learned is that if you post in any sub long enough, often enough, you'll eventually be banned.

[–]Silly-Activity-6219 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice to know I’m in good company. At first, I was stunned by bannings, when I felt all I was doing was raising reasonable alternate points (respectfully). Took me a bit, but I’m starting to learn that this is the place that must have invented the term echo chamber.

[–]Alarming_Draw 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

(if you post anything mildly critical of toxic feminism, that is)

[–]Fern-ando 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When you see post one year or older you strt to see that almost half of the accounts that posted there are now banned.

[+]ContradictFate 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's never a slap on the wrist either. I probably have a 1:10+ ratio of temp ban to 1st offence permaban. It isn't about moderation, its about extinguishing alternative thought.

[+]ContradictFate 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some subs? 🤣 Most of the mods on subs are children. I can't tell you how many times I was a first time offender and got permabans rather than a cool down. They rule with an iron fist and don't care to squash you permenantly.

A video game that came out like 6 years ago, just had one of their characters come out as gay because boxchecking. This addition came in a patch with multiple bugs that has never happened in the games history, so politics is ahead of ensuring their game is functional. Anyways, I stated on that sub that no one cares what hole his dick goes, especially 6 fucking years later as a hollow, woke gesture. Permaban. Even had the mod state I was being racist when I said absolutely 0 about race. After I swore at them for lying about conditions for my ban, I received a 7 day ban from all of Reddit.

When you're give a child a blank cheque, these assholes are going to write whatever they want without fear.

[–]NouveauALaVille 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

As I've said, it is now men not women who are held to unrealistic body standards.

Women can be valued as they are.

Men are expected to be tall white guys with unrealistic gym bodies

[+]Canuck3021 points 4 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

No need to bring race into it, most races are primarily attracted to people of their own race, and all races have qualities/types they consider more "conventionally attractive."

[–]NouveauALaVille 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why do you keep deleting and reposting this?

[+]Canuck302 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I re-post all unduly downvoted comments.

Don't allow idiots to silence my thoughts.

[–]NouveauALaVille 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Silence LOL. No one is deleting the comments. I just don't have a desire to argue with trolls.

[+]Canuck302 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No need to bring race into it, most races are primarily attracted to people of their own race, and all races have qualities/types they consider more "conventionally attractive."

[–]trashtony69 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I once saw a woman post a comment stating “men just don’t have body issues” with 20,000+ likes on TikTok… I can’t believe that many people agreed in just one post.

[–]raclnp 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They apparently have never seen male underwear models, that all look like bodybuilders.

Same for "men's" magazines, only body builders, not normal fit men.

Same for "fit for fun" and similar publications: women are slim but not worked out much (which makes no sense, since there are real fitness models). Men are again, body builders.

[+]ContradictFate 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tiktok

It's like going into a crackden and actually being surprised when not a single of them think that drugs are bad and destroyed their life. Straight up addict echochamber behavior. I'm compelled to think that majority of society is a go-along-to-get-along ginger on that episode of Black Mirror that doesn't even bother to glance at what a post is about before gravitating to hitting the like button immediately.

[–]Jezz_ah_bells 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/uqlc59/body_positivity_only_applies_to_one_gender/i8sh1dc?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3

Why'd he get downvoted?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe because it was off topic?

[–]NextStopMyAss 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Hot take I know, but I'm glad it's this way.

Body positivity is a farce. Nobody, and I mean nobody truly believes in it fully. Fat HAES women crave underwear model type guys, and the guys who say that the big girls need love jack off to women with thin waists and perky asses. Only fat fetishists really like big people, and that's not positivity.

I'm glad that the male body positivity movement isn't taking off because I don't want to see my brothers fall victim to the crabs in a bucket mentality. Instead, I want fat men to know that they can lose weight, they can better themselves physically, and they will be happier for it. If you simply refuse, that's on you.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Instead, I want fat men to know that they can lose weight, they can better themselves physically, and they will be happier for it.

Is that what body positivity is, though? It is really all about denying that losing weight and improving fitness is a good thing?

The reality is that there are all sorts of healthy male bodies that don't look like the identical clones in the lower half of that screenshot.

It's like that photo of Jason Momoa when he wasn't in perfect, ripped shape for a film and people were calling him fat.

[+]ContradictFate 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In a nutshell, body positivity means: You can never say anything bad about a woman. Also, "sex work is REAL work" BUT you can't objectify women, pig, "women don't exist to be nice on the eyes for you" (unless that existence includes utilizing that body to extract money from people)

There's something to be said about civilization going into free fall once women were allowed to vote. They got empowered and then they make this tangled spaghetti fuck of a mess like up above, that we all have to be tortured day after day with when we watch alt news talking about each new woke brain cancer trend.

[–]NextStopMyAss 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Body positivity is certainly a sliding scale, but I'd say that most people err towards the side of "being a fat tub is fine bb <3 <3 <3"

[+]ContradictFate 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is 3 hearts indicating how many coronary bypasses they had to undergo? 😂

[–]raclnp 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Just because body positivity has taken a weird turn does not mean the general concept is wrong.

It's about all different types of bodies that are natural instead of enforcing only one, that is dictated by time and trends.

And no, fat bodies were indeed seen as desirable for a while as you can see in old paintings. It represented wealth. For the same reason, Asians prefer white skin (no work in the field), while Westeners prefer tan skin (time for tanning).

But even if none of this was true, and people really only liked exactly one very specific type and nothing else, body positivity is not about accepting unhealthy habits.

It's about acknowledging that people vary, and it's toxic to repeatedly obsess over one type only. It's also biologically wrong, since genetic diversity is important.

Body posivity is about body types and looks. Not just fat or not fat. It can be different heights, bone structure, hair color, muscle types, face structure etc.

[+]ContradictFate -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The general concept is wrong. Most women aren't going to date a fat man because they are not attracted to that. Men aren't allowed to not be attractive to unfertile, death bedded fatties. It destroys their blue pill fantasy.

This is what body positivity had ALWAYS been about with the woke trashsters. Tell me you're an alien that just touched down on earth without you telling me you're an alien.

[–]raclnp 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's not about dating nor the rest.

[+]ContradictFate -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, you're right. Men are never shamed for refusing to be with a "curvy" woman nor harangued for having their preferences with traditional health standards. Body positivity stops at Dove ads apparently. 🤦

[+]ContradictFate 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men are rooted in logic, women are rooted in cope. Male body positivity hasn't taken off because men say "man, I'm a fat piece of shit... I better do something about it or I won't have a chance with anything". Women take their fat little meat sausages, poorly attempt to rip the goalposts out of the ground and demand you accept their drug addiction.

The thing is that a billion+ in revenues on OnlyFans (amidst current day, where you can't throw a rock WITHOUT hitting free porn on the net), making a pseudo-equality framework to the sexes without women giving up a single privilege they have from the times when there wasn't "equality" and non stop pedestalling of women is giving women a culture of where they don't have to be responsible and account for their actions. There's pretty much the reason males haven't bought into this shit: There is absolutely fucking nobody saving a man if they underperform in life and we know it. There is no relocating goalposts to fit our needs.

[–]jessi387 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmaoo I’m surprised it didn’t get taken down altogether

[+]notorious-rice 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Body positivity is a steaming pile of shit anyways

[–]Left_Anything_5215 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I only support body positivity when it's something we can't change/control/choose like hair type, skin colour, facial looks in general, but being fat is a no no

I am not really fit to talk but I can clearly say that I am on the wrong

BODY POSITIVITY WON'T HELP IN A HEART ATTACK.

[+]ContradictFate 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I found it absolutely unbelievable that there was so much trashing on the fatties in that comment section AND their comments had huge upvotes (on leftie Reddit of all places). There is some hope for humanity after all.

The mod in there must have been sweating hamburgers after delivering like 400 permabans to those based God's.

[–]Miss_Cherise_ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol stop. You made me spit out coffee YOU MONSTER! 😂😂😂

[–]dfedz2004 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The reason is that we don’t whine and bitch about everything

[+]Ok_Leg_5107 -34 points-33 points-32 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Look. I have to deal with the lunatic assholes going to the nude bars trying to treat me like a sack of shit retarded incest bumb on crack.. they can deal with people who are different. They hate anyone different than them. It is so wrong and it is abuse.

[–]Dry-Pianist1853 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

lol wut?

[–]Miss_Cherise_ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think he may be drunk

[–]Daniel-01239 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sober up a little, then type your comment

[+]Ok_Leg_5107 -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dont slime on me like an inbred who tosses their words.

[–]Miss_Cherise_ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From a woman's point of view, I don't want to see people like me. I've had children and I'm squishy in the tummy area. I also don't want to see these super skinny models either. The average size of a woman is a size 8 which is healthy, quite a while ago since so many people are just fat now, the average size of most of the models (not these) are I think a 2 iirc? I don't mind seeing make models looking like that but tttt I think they should look more realistic. Not fat, but not all do body shots off of. The only think the body positivity movement has really don't is make it acceptable for people to be fat and not care (for the most part)

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