The Boys at the Back

quasimotor · 2013-02-03T17:37:56+00:00

Wow! The stats for minority men are particularly appalling.

Black women are nearly twice as likely to earn a college degree as black men. At some historically black colleges, the gap is astounding: Fisk is now 64 female; Howard, 67 percent; Clark Atlanta, 75 percent. The economist Andrew M. Sum and his colleagues at the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University examined the Boston Public Schools and found that for the graduating class of 2007, there were 191 black girls for every 100 boys going on to attend a four-year college or university. Among Hispanics, the ratio was 175 girls for every 100 boys; among whites, 153 for every 100.

The scary thing is that minority men are the canary in the coal mine. Minority communities made fertile testing grounds for this little social experiment called "feminism" (typhonblue calls it "harem patriarchy"). Men as a group are heading in that same direction: out of the family and away from education; toward prison, menial labor, and debt enslavement.

mtux96 · 2013-02-03T19:39:27+00:00

Teachers of classes as early as kindergarten factor good behavior into grades

I do not like this one bit. Nothing like a grade that can be subjective. What constitutes good behavior? As long as they are not being overly disruptive, behavior should not be part of the grading procedure as it is overly subjective. If the student is overly disruptive, there are other issues and should not be graded on that. If the student is learning and passing the course material, it should not matter on how still or how politely they sit at their desk.

sixtrees · 2013-02-03T17:49:46+00:00

The last paragraph is great. Pretty much sums up the current state of affairs.

mordicaii · 2013-02-04T04:33:30+00:00

And most importantly, not seeing how parents create this behavior. Every parent I know of a boy who misbehaves accused the teacher who expected good behavior of not understanding or liking boys. The mothers of girl who misbehaves accuse the teacher of not being tough enough, of being too nice.

We do not hold boys responsible for their behavior so amazingly they are increasingly unable to behave. In the same way, we talk endlessly about how nasty, and grudge holding girls are and tolerate mean girl behavior, in children as young as first grade. I'm a girl and I don't remember that behavior at all until fourth grade. But because we've made it a thing, we accept behavior that we shouldn't.

This comment piqued my interest, simply for how incorrect it is. On average, I've found, boys are punished more harshly than girls. It's not a matter of the parent thinking that the teacher "doesn't understand boys". A lot of parents (mine included, sadly) seem to think that their children are infallible and the teacher is simply out to get them. Boys are not suited for the school environment we have now, and when they can't sit still, they have Ritalin shoved down their throats to turn them into "good little girls".

Synackaon · 2013-02-04T06:19:22+00:00

I can sympathize with those who roll their eyes at the relatively recent alarm over boys’ achievement. Where was the indignation when men dominated higher education, decade after decade? Isn’t it time for women and girls to enjoy the advantages? The impulse is understandable but misguided. I became a feminist in the 1970s because I did not appreciate male chauvinism. I still don’t. But the proper corrective to chauvinism is not to reverse it and practice it against males, but rather basic fairness. And fairness today requires us to address the serious educational deficits of boys and young men. The rise of women, however long overdue, does not require the fall of men.

Wow. Someone attempting to be disciplined and meet both sides.

I had forgotten people like that existed.

salient_punt · 2013-02-04T20:42:08+00:00

girls, as a rule, comport themselves far better than boys.

Better, or differently?

Title	The Boys at the Back
Author	crazy89
Upvotes	54
Comments	7
Date	February 3, 2013 5:06 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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